Should the US pull out of the Middle East entirely?

[Darthphere]

I don't see how pulling out of the Middle East entirely is going to end terrorism. As long as there's religious fundamentalism over there there's going to be terrorism.

I'm glad that General Casey has proposed some sort of withdrawal of our troops in Iraq, though. It's about time U.S. Government got in tune with what its citizens want.

Thats crazy thinking Sinewave, I will have none of that.

 

[Truthteller]

This notion that certain people dont have a right to be in certain places in the world is sophomoric.

The world is *our* world. Each person. No matter where they are from. Even if they are from the (dreaded) USA! :gasp:

Granted I believe in private property ownership. But there should also always be areas in each part of the world that are open to anyone and everyone. Whole entire countries or regions should not be closed off to certain types of people.

The earth is ours, in its totality and in ours.

 

[sinewave]

Thats crazy thinking Sinewave, I will have none of that.

oops! you're right. i meant to say, "cutting and running is for *****es!" better?

 

[dpm07]

The most prudent thing that could be done is to let the elected officials handle the situation. They were voted in office by the people because they were believed to be the most effective and intelligent people for the job.

If people have issues with the way the government is running things in the middle east, then in November make it known.

 

[Darthphere]

oops! you're right. i meant to say, "cutting and running is for *****es!" better?

 

[Erzengel]

I don't see how pulling out of the Middle East entirely is going to end terrorism. As long as there's religious fundamentalism over there there's going to be terrorism.

I'm glad that General Casey has proposed some sort of withdrawal of our troops in Iraq, though. It's about time U.S. Government got in tune with what its citizens want.

What citizens want? Heh. I think what citizen's want depend on how long it takes for something to get done. If the US got in and out of Iraq in a second, there will not be these many people wanting the solders to come home during. US Citizens have short attention spans and want instant results.

 

[Darthphere]

The most prudent thing that could be done is to let the elected officials handle the situation. They were voted in office by the people because they were believed to be the most effective and intelligent people for the job.

If people have issues with the way the government is running things in the middle east, then in November make it known.

I thought people were elected to represent the view of the average american citizen. Silly me. They were elected because theyre smarter than us. Ive seen the light.

 

[sinewave]

The most prudent thing that could be done is to let the elected officials handle the situation. They were voted in office by the people because they were believed to be the most effective and intelligent people for the job.

If people have issues with the way the government is running things in the middle east, then in November make it known.

are you referring to the "elected" officials in the u.s. government? i don't think that sounds very reasonable. what have they gotten right in the last six years?

 

[sinewave]

What citizens want? Heh. I think what citizen's want depend on how long it takes for something to get done. If the US got in and out of Iraq in a second, there will not be these many people wanting the solders to come home. US Citizens have short attention spans and want instant results.

I don't think you're giving the American citizens enough credit. We've been enduring this war for over three years now. That's three years longer than it was supposed to last. Let's get out.

 

[AllThingsComic]

We're damned if we do and we're damned if we don't!! I say pull out, put our troops on border patrol and let the world fend for themselves. That is why we're hated by the rest of the world, isn't it, because America is involved everywhere? We're spreading ourselves to thin and there's alot of things here at home that need to be taken care of. This is why the Roman Empire fell and the reason Hitler failed(not complaining about that).

 

[squeekness]

I don't see how pulling out of the Middle East entirely is going to end terrorism. As long as there's religious fundamentalism over there there's going to be terrorism.

I'm glad that General Casey has proposed some sort of withdrawal of our troops in Iraq, though. It's about time U.S. Government got in tune with what its citizens want.

I agree with this. I still think some sort of compromise has to be created to settle things. Going in all the way and pullling out too soon are both roads to disaster.

 

[Erzengel]

I don't think you're giving the American citizens enough credit. We've been enduring this war for over three years now. That's three years longer than it was supposed to last. Let's get out.

I realize after "liberating" Iraq, the US should have pulled out already but maybe it's the sign of the times or human nature to want things done yesterday and instant gratification. I think we lose interest in things easily.

 

[squeekness]

I realize after "liberating" Iraq, the US should have pulled out already but maybe it's the sign of the times or human nature to want things done yesterday and instant gratification. I think we lose interest in things easily.

Did we liberate Iraq or rip it open? If we leave, then the civil war there will be horrific. Sadam was human slime, but he was the stop gap in keeping the place from devouring itself. It would be irresponsible for us to take the cork out of the dam and just walk away.

 

[Darthphere]

I realize after "liberating" Iraq, the US should have pulled out already but maybe it's the sign of the times or human nature to want things done yesterday and instant gratification. I think we lose interest in things easily.

Did we have interest in going to Iraq in the first place?

 

[sinewave]

I realize after "liberating" Iraq, the US should have pulled out already but maybe it's the sign of the times or human nature to want things done yesterday and instant gratification. I think we lose interest in things easily.

that may be true, but we've done what we said we wanted to do before we went in there. we ousted saddam, determined there's no wmd, and helped them setup a democratic government. now we're just overstaying our welcome.

 

[Truthteller]

I think we should set up some permanent or semi-permanent bases in Iraq. Help keep an eye on things.

 

[PLAS]

What citizens want? Heh. I think what citizen's want depend on how long it takes for something to get done. If the US got in and out of Iraq in a second, there will not be these many people wanting the solders to come home during. US Citizens have short attention spans and want instant results.

many people swallowed the whole "this is an in and out thingie, just a quickie", but since they keep sending troops, keep getting dead children back and no foreseeable end to the situation, it's obvious a lot of people are starting to question how good was the decision in the first place

have you ever made a decision and then, midway through it you realize you made the wrong decision?

what do you do after you realize that?

 

[Erzengel]

I dunno. With this administration it would show that they were in error and further damage the fleeting trust that's barely there. I think it might take a new administration to remove the troops there unless some sort of peace is established there honestly.

 

[sinewave]

I think we should set up some permanent or semi-permanent bases in Iraq. Help keep an eye on things.

It makes sense to do that now, but only to monitor the situation and take the soldiers out of the centralized hotbed. Keep them on the periphery, so they're not as much of a target, and available to help if needed. Isn't that what Murtha suggested?

 

[sinewave]

I dunno. With this administration it would show that they were in error and further damage the fleeting trust that's barely there. I think it might take a new administration to remove the troops there unless some sort of peace is established there honestly.

That's what Bush has said. The troops will be there as long as he's in office.

 

[PLAS]

I think we should set up some permanent or semi-permanent bases in Iraq. Help keep an eye on things.

what do you want to keep an eye on?

 

[PLAS]

That's what Bush has said. The troops will be there as long as he's in office.

he doesn't want the world or his citizens to think he might not go all the way through with things, or that he's a mediocre president, right?

 

[sinewave]

he doesn't want the world or his citizens to think he might not go all the way through with things, or that he's a mediocre president, right?

yeah, he thinks of himself as a tough-talking cowboy who doesn't quit. it's too bad he's actually an ignorant, rich brat with no clue how the real world works.

 

[Darthphere]

what do you want to keep an eye on?

The oil silly.

 

[TheSumOfGod]

yeah, he thinks of himself as a tough-talking cowboy who doesn't quit. it's too bad he's actually an ignorant, rich brat with no clue how the real world works.

Clint Eastwood for President!