Shouldn't villians/government already know superheros ID's

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  1. JesusOfNazarath Registered

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    Why aren't telepaths like Purple Man ect., auctioning off the identitys and secret info of them?

    Why doesn't the government pay high end telepaths to get all this info too?

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  2. DBM Mad Scientist

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    Purple Man isn't a telepath. He exudes a pheremone that weakens peoples wills and makes them easy to manipulate.

    Other than that, your point is a good one. SHIELD has an entire Psy-ops division that should be able to do most of that.
     
  3. roach I am the night

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    I seem to recall another story arc in which SHIELD does know the identity of all the superheroes.
     
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    as i understand it psycic phenomena is considered inadmissable evidence so the feds would have to get HARD evidence of who a superhero firestar for example really is
     
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    They said that in Identity Disc. The villains were trying to get the disk with the heroes real ids on it. Turned out it was a big goose chase though. But at the end, it was revealed there was an ID disc and SHIELD had it.

    Marvel's conviniently forgeting that.
     
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    Well its not like are world where telepaths may or may not exist. They have proven telepaths in there world.
     
  7. 3dman27 super-hero wannabe

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    true but esp and the like are inadmissible there as well
     
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    You're Jesus,you tell us.
     
  9. roach I am the night

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    In our world I would agree with you but in the world of mutants, gods and super soldiers i think psychics hold a little more weight
     
  10. cerealkiller182 Must Get Deadpool Avatar

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    I have to agree with 3dman. If it was proven I was a telepath i could start lying and there would be no proof.
     
  11. roach I am the night

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    and people who witness a crime can lie too
     
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    Thats not the same thing this is a diffrent world were talking about. If Professor x calls up shield and warns them about something, do you think there just gonna say, Oh thats just wacky charlie calling again. SHIELD would obviously do tests to see if they were really telepaths.
     
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    Heck, who says SHIELD needs evidence, anyway!?
     
  14. cerealkiller182 Must Get Deadpool Avatar

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    You keep talking about a different world as if nobody lies or follows the law in the Marvel universe.

    Agreed, tough fact of life. Plus when this thread is started you're talking about villains and "telepaths of fortune", not exactly the most trustworthy of people.

    But yes, if there is trust and a relationship between the telepath and the gov't official then yeah it could work based on the fact that Cyclops believes Pr. X whenever he divulges info gained through telepathy. BUt it would have to be an extremely benevolent telepath, a volunteer with no pay even.
     
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    not to mention if any villain telepath did give away a hero's identity, how bad and how hard do you think that hero would come after him or her. they don't do it becaus they're afraid of what the hero will do.
     
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    SHIELD knows everyone's I.D.
     
  17. The Question Objectivism doesn't work.

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    I doubt S.H.E.I.L.D. knows everyone's I.D. But they know alot. I don't think they'd bother to look into the non powered or low powered vigilantes, since they don't have a potential threat level that the local authorities and the feds couldn't deal with if they had to.
     
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    There going to do tests to make sure that it is a telepath. Plus, don't you think they'ed have more then one telepath? I really don't understand why you're denying.:confused: In a world they live in its ridiculous would/should happen. The laws are diffrent in the MU they'll trust a bunch of telepaths who say the info on peoples ID. If they offer a well known telepath a large sum of money, why wouldn't he help them out?
     
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    So what about the villians nobodys talked about that side. Villians don't care about proof. They'd just kill the people if it doesn't turn out to be true.

    Lets say Dr. Doom has a telepath in Lativa and gets the info on a bunch of top tier heros. I doubt anybodys who works for Doom is gonna give him false info, unless they want to die.
     
  20. The Question Objectivism doesn't work.

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    Why would Doom care? He doesn't give two ****s about Spider-Man. All that matters to him is Reed Richards.
     
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    Right, but one of Spider-Man's villians could easily get it from a telepath.
     
  22. The Question Objectivism doesn't work.

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    Not necesairily. First off, a telepath would still have to be in close proximity to the person to get any in depth info. Second, are telepaths really that easy to come by? I mean, count all of the telepaths in the MU. May seem like a large numder, but counting over 6 billion people, that's barely a fraction of a percent of the poulation. They're not in over abundance. I doubt they're easy to come by, and really skilled and trustworthy ones are probably even harder.
     
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    Well since nearly all the heros are in New York or frequent it, that brings the six billion number down alot. What if one just goes about New York and gathers all the info and sells it to the villian of a hero who would want to know?
     
  24. cerealkiller182 Must Get Deadpool Avatar

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    I'm not saying its not a possibility, but you treat it like its infallible. It is just as infallible as eye witness or whatever other evidence just shy of the hero actually taking off his mask cause even though the world is "ridiculous," these people still show real human characteristics. I'm sure if you check back in the MU history I bet you will find someone trying to do that and it probably screwed up.
     
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    To J.O.N.

    If your sig is some sort of sexual innuendo,you have no respect at all.
     

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