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This movie brought in $14 million yesterday.
But, the ending was fine as is to me but I think that extra twist would have really made the movie fantastic.
I did have a question though, when he was talking to Mark Ruffalo at the end, he says [blackout]"Is it better to die a hero than to live a monster?"[/blackout] Was that him [blackout]faking that he had regressed so that he would be killed[/blackout]? It just seemed that way to me.
Good movie, very smart. 9/10
See I don't think the "ending" suppose to be a "twist". I will give Martin more props then that. To me the "twist" was suppose to be seen a mile away. I saw it before I even saw the movie. But that was not the point. I think the point was:
You are suppose to feel for Teddy/Andrew, and in a sense I felt like him. At the beginning of the movie the very first few scenes I already knew that he might be a mental patient. It clearly was stated by the doctors and you could tell it so easily. Yet, later there is a part of you thinking maybe that is not the twist. Maybe it is something more. And while you watch the movie you keep wanting it to be something else. Then that is when I understood the movie at the end. You truly almost become the main character, and you don't want him to be the "clear" mental patient that he is. You are worried that he will be insane and the twist will be what you predicted it to be.
So I just felt that it really pulled you in, in another way, it was not suppose to be a twist but a tool to want to be sane. You are hoping the whole time that those crazy conspiracies are right, and not the simple truth you probably came to a conclusion of early on. So in a sense you don't want to be insane either. The movie really talks alot about insanity, and when he is talking to Rachel it is quite interesting in their conversation. That doctors work backwards, find the person is crazy then go back in their past and find the reason. The sad fact of it is, we are all insane, because we all have something "tragic" in our lives that some one could easily connect to you being "insane".
Additionally even though its not like this in the book from what I've heard. But that final shot of the "lighthouse" kinda makes me wonder....maybe the conspiracy was right, and he was not insane. To me that is the point of the movie, aren't we all insane? But yea I loved the film. The more I think about it the more I loved it.
As I mention in my response to Solidus that's how I feel on the ending.That he was cured and decided to fake it that he had regressed just so he wouldn't have to live with those horrible memories of the truth.
Just saw this film and my gf and I just finished having a discussion about that very thing.
I think he was insane from the beginning and as Kingsley said, that he was continuously living a loop in his mind. My gf thinks he was sent their by his superiors because he was asking around too much like he said he was and that they sent him there to get drugged and forgotten so the "conspiracy" wouldn't leak to the American people. Primarily because that would look really bad for that to happen within the same country that was fighting the Nazis who were doing similar tests on the Jews.
I think he was insane from the start and by piecing the film and events that happened that's where I stand. Think about the very first scene on the boat, he can't find his cigarettes and "Chuck" gives him one of his. As a "dangerous" mental patient they would never give him his own cigarettes. Unless he was being watched, which he was, by Mark Ruffalo. Another thing is, he wouldn't have started getting drugged(if it really was a conspiracy) until he got the island, or taking that first cigarette from Ruffalo. Before he took that cigarette he was throwing up because of the water and mentions it to Ruffalo. I think that was because in his subconcious it affected him due to his kids being drowned.
I would need to see the film again but I thinking back on everything I personally believe there was more evidence to show that what Kingsley was telling him at the end was the truth and that he's been there for 2 years.
Another point my gf had aboutis, that would be a good twist since we both agreed it was fairly obvious from the trailers thatthe conspiracyOnly obvious in the sense that when you've seen a number of these type of films, that's a how a number of the twists end.he was most likely the "missing" patient
Yea I really loved this film, its layers are quite dense. And there are many theories that will always come out of it.
Of course any movie with "sanity/insanity" that is done well should make you think.
I like to look at it in multiple ways. A part of me thinks maybe the conspiracy is true. But at the same time, he very well may be insane. But interestingly enough the woman that talked with Teddy when he was looking for Rachel she wrote "Run" on his book. To me that is interesting, but I will definitely buy this on blu and try to soak more of it up. But good point about him stating to Chuck that he hates water, "too much of it".
EDIT: Additionally to me the "wanting" of the conspiracy theory to be true is the idea of sanity, wanting to be sane in such an insane world. Yet the clear "he's a patient" idea is kinda more of the obvious reality that Teddy does live in, he just does not want it to be true, just as the audience does not. But to me the ending could hint at both.
Made me want to play the original Resident Evil again tooThe environment was amazing.
Yeah, when shewrote run on his notebook, that was another clue that he might have been sane and it was a conspiracy and she was telling him to get out while he still could.
Same here but it actually reminded me of Silent Hill a lot too.
God there are some people I know hated the movie thought it's very bad .. LOL
Geez. It seems everyone liked the movie. It makes the mixed reviews even more baffling.
See I don't think the "ending" suppose to be a "twist". I will give Martin more props then that. To me the "twist" was suppose to be seen a mile away. I saw it before I even saw the movie. But that was not the point. I think the point was:
You are suppose to feel for Teddy/Andrew, and in a sense I felt like him. At the beginning of the movie the very first few scenes I already knew that he might be a mental patient. It clearly was stated by the doctors and you could tell it so easily. Yet, later there is a part of you thinking maybe that is not the twist. Maybe it is something more. And while you watch the movie you keep wanting it to be something else. Then that is when I understood the movie at the end. You truly almost become the main character, and you don't want him to be the "clear" mental patient that he is. You are worried that he will be insane and the twist will be what you predicted it to be.
So I just felt that it really pulled you in, in another way, it was not suppose to be a twist but a tool to want to be sane. You are hoping the whole time that those crazy conspiracies are right, and not the simple truth you probably came to a conclusion of early on. So in a sense you don't want to be insane either. The movie really talks alot about insanity, and when he is talking to Rachel it is quite interesting in their conversation. That doctors work backwards, find the person is crazy then go back in their past and find the reason. The sad fact of it is, we are all insane, because we all have something "tragic" in our lives that some one could easily connect to you being "insane".
Additionally even though its not like this in the book from what I've heard. But that final shot of the "lighthouse" kinda makes me wonder....maybe the conspiracy was right, and he was not insane. To me that is the point of the movie, aren't we all insane? But yea I loved the film. The more I think about it the more I loved it.
My audience was stunned into silence by the end of it, with a few whispers of, "This is f***ed up."Actually, my crowd seemed to hate the film. People were talking throughout, I heard a few smack their lips when they revealed the "twist", etc.
Projected weekend gross? And comparable to the other movies out?
Anyone else love that long crane shot of Leo climbing back up the cliffside?
My audience was stunned into silence by the end of it, with a few whispers of, "This is f***ed up."
See I don't think the "ending" suppose to be a "twist". I will give Martin more props then that. To me the "twist" was suppose to be seen a mile away. I saw it before I even saw the movie. But that was not the point. I think the point was:
You are suppose to feel for Teddy/Andrew, and in a sense I felt like him. At the beginning of the movie the very first few scenes I already knew that he might be a mental patient. It clearly was stated by the doctors and you could tell it so easily. Yet, later there is a part of you thinking maybe that is not the twist. Maybe it is something more. And while you watch the movie you keep wanting it to be something else. Then that is when I understood the movie at the end. You truly almost become the main character, and you don't want him to be the "clear" mental patient that he is. You are worried that he will be insane and the twist will be what you predicted it to be.
So I just felt that it really pulled you in, in another way, it was not suppose to be a twist but a tool to want to be sane. You are hoping the whole time that those crazy conspiracies are right, and not the simple truth you probably came to a conclusion of early on. So in a sense you don't want to be insane either. The movie really talks alot about insanity, and when he is talking to Rachel it is quite interesting in their conversation. That doctors work backwards, find the person is crazy then go back in their past and find the reason. The sad fact of it is, we are all insane, because we all have something "tragic" in our lives that some one could easily connect to you being "insane".
Additionally even though its not like this in the book from what I've heard. But that final shot of the "lighthouse" kinda makes me wonder....maybe the conspiracy was right, and he was not insane. To me that is the point of the movie, aren't we all insane? But yea I loved the film. The more I think about it the more I loved it.