Siege

[Docker2.0]

Well that entire town in Oklahoma is going to die if it falls on it like that.

 

[Anubis]

Well, that's a good enough reason for Osborne to lose his popularity. Killing an entire town fulla people by dropping a mystical city on it. Worse than what the New Warriors did. Of course, we are talking about MU America. Probably think they deserved it cuz they were mutie sympathizers or something.

 

[MightyAvenge]

Besides Norman losing to the heroes and the Dark Reign ending, I think the way he shlould lose in the publics eyes is through bad PR. Norman has gotten where he is through the use of good PR. I don't want Norman to just revert to the Goblin, and I also dont want Norman rotting in jail. Norman has developed so much, that it would be a waste to just put him back where he was during Marvel Knights Spider-Man. Which was, that it was publicly known that Norman was the Green Goblin and he was rotting in jail.

I want Norman to lose the PR battle and be forced to resign from be director of HAMMER. It would be a blow to the reputation that he has built up since his rise to success. Not only would it be a blow to his reputation, but it would also be a blow to his psyche. I don't want the Goblin to fully come out, I want the Goblin t0 come out every once in a while. I would prefer if Norman kept his "Iron Patriot" persona or some kind of persona that was still "Iron-mannish". Maybe with Normans fall from power, he could give the suit a paint job. Either way,I want Norman to still be somewhat "successful".

If the Goblin comes out, I would like for it to be out of the publics eyes. When Norman chooses to become the Goblin, he should do things in deep secret. Also if the Goblin were to be seen in the public, Norman can always deny it was him. The president himself "saw" the Green Goblin die, and he also saw that Norman was the one to do the deed. So Norman has deniability.


Whether HAMMER stays in place, I don't know.

 

[Docker2.0]

You want Norman to resign? that's not punishment. Him resigning, is like him leaving without being forced out. But something tells me that Loki and Dr. Doom are about to screw him royally. They both have been scheming behind his back for awhile and Loki isn't phased by Norman's secret weapon at all, which I'm sure is the Void. Anyway, like Anubis said, PR in the MU makes no sense, so unless he murders 20 babies on live tv, they'd still follow dude around and wouldn't force him to resign.

 

[SouLeSS]

Norman needs to die at the end. There's nothing else he can go to now. I mean, without all his sway and pull with the governments, Spiderman is more than enough to handle him alone. So it's not like he's honestly that powerful. MOST of his power lies in the fact that he's at such an escalated level in the Government that he's given free reign to do what he wants. Without that he's just another lackey in a suit, albeit much smarter than most of the other rogues Spiderman faces. Still, it's not like he's much of a threat without his position, so he loses that and then what?

Either kill him, send him to another dimension (like hell, the negative zone, anywhere really), fuse him with some godmagicks and make him some huge badass that the entire avengers have to take down (ala Onslaught, only everyone doesn't die), but don't just go "aw I lost shucks I guess it's back to punking spiderman!"

 

[moraldeficiency]

Norman's been an industrialist that rivaled Stark at one time. He's considered the smartest chemist on earth. He's sucessfully cloned people and runs several mystical organizations. And now he's been privy to Stark Tech and everything SHIELD had to offer.

Even without the command he has now, he'd still be a legit threat to pretty much anyone on earth.

 

[SouLeSS]

And yet with all that he's still taken down by Spiderman at every turn. It wasn't until he was the head of the Thunderbolts that he started really moving and shaking the earth, which was when he started gaining his power thanks to his position.

I mean honestly, before Thunderbolts how often did he pop up OUTSIDE of a Spider-man book, or a book with a spidey-appearance?

 

[Anubis]

That's more of a writers thing than anything to do with the actual character. Bet he shows up in more stuff after this status quo change. Probably end up being a big Iron man villain.

 

[Keyser Soze]

That's more of a writers thing than anything to do with the actual character. Bet he shows up in more stuff after this status quo change. Probably end up being a big Iron man villain.

I think he works really well as an Iron Man villain, actually. I loved the dynamic between Osborn and Stark in World's Most Wanted.

 

[runawayboulder]

Asgard Falls In New "Siege" Teaser

By far my favorite teaser yet.

Reminds me of an album cover for an 80's metal band.

 

[moraldeficiency]

That's more of a writers thing than anything to do with the actual character. Bet he shows up in more stuff after this status quo change. Probably end up being a big Iron man villain.

Exactly, plus Peter Parker is one of the biggest genius' on the planet, when he sets his mind to something he's pretty damn effective. It isn't like beating Spider-Man is something relatively easy, add to that the fact the GG has a love/hate thing there that prevents him from the easy kill.

 

[Franklin Richards]

I'm tired of Osborn being Gyrich. I want the Green Goblin back.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I don't. To me, Osborn should have stayed dead after Amazing Spider-Man #122. He had to pay after what he did to Gwen Stacy and when they brought him back, he came off as the illegitimate offspring of the Joker and Lex Luthor in my opinion.

Thunderbolts and Dark Reign made him cool again, and I just don't see him topping that at all. Kill him off.

 

[SouLeSS]

I don't. To me, Osborn should have stayed dead after Amazing Spider-Man #122. He had to pay after what he did to Gwen Stacy and when they brought him back, he came off as the illegitimate offspring of the Joker and Lex Luthor in my opinion.

Thunderbolts and Dark Reign made him cool again, and I just don't see him topping that at all. Kill him off.

I agree with every single word of this. It's exactly how I've seen him for years - the mix of Joker and Lex - and it seems like this would be a GREAT point to end his character.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Well, end it for about a year before he comes back within the next year

 

[Spider-Vader]

That's more of a writers thing than anything to do with the actual character. Bet he shows up in more stuff after this status quo change. Probably end up being a big Iron man villain.

I'd like that. Iron Man doesn't have that many villains anyway.

Spidey still has Doc Ock (he's coming back if I'm right) & Venom. So it's not like he'll be losing much.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I really hope Asgard doesn't actually fall.

 

[SouLeSS]

Maybe that's just symbolic.

 

[Franklin Richards]

I really hope Asgard doesn't actually fall.

Asgard is where the heart is. And right now it's in Latveria.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I don't. To me, Osborn should have stayed dead after Amazing Spider-Man #122. He had to pay after what he did to Gwen Stacy and when they brought him back, he came off as the illegitimate offspring of the Joker and Lex Luthor in my opinion.

Thunderbolts and Dark Reign made him cool again, and I just don't see him topping that at all. Kill him off.

Isn't that a bit of an obtuse stance to take, though? The character's allowed to live on when he sucks, but not when he's a really good villain? The Green Goblin didn't really hit his stride first time round until he killed off Gwen Stacy, cementing his status as Spider-Man's arch foe. Then Marvel kill him off.

They regret it for decades, going through a variety of imitators - some great, some crap - before finally bringing back the original in the late 90s. But however hard they tried to push Norman Osborn as SPIDER-MAN'S ULTIMATE NEMESIS~!!!!! he just didn't quite click as a truly great character. Like you say - Joker meets Lex Luthor. But far from being killed off, he gets continually shoved down readers' throats to try and make them buy him as the real deal, undisputable arch foe, with a mixed bag of results. It takes Warren Ellis to really make the character into a truly compelling villain who works within the wider Marvel Universe rather than just as a foil for Spidey, and from there we get the completion of his elevation with Dark Reign. At last, Norman Osborn is undoubtedly in Marvel's supervillain A-list with the very best (or worst) of them, fully rehabilitated from that dodgy post-resurrection period..... and now you think he should get killed off AGAIN!?

Poor guy can't get a break...

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Asgard is where the heart is. And right now it's in Latveria.

"Where there is Thor, there is Asgard."

Still, I like the floating city thing. Plus, they already dropped a floating Asgard on an American city once before. Clichéd much?

 

[Franklin Richards]

Bring Back Bifrost!!!


There.



I said it.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Twice!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It'd be a really short Bifrost at this stage.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Variant covers from IGN.

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