Singer nay or yah

[LastSunrise1981]

ur kiddin right? its only the most ridiculous form of fashion and style that certain young people have adopted over recent years. symptoms of emo include overly gelled hair hanging over the eyes, cutting of the wrists, listening to crappy emo music, tight pants, and *****ing about everything because it's "cool."

Exactly. If I had the power of Cyclops I'd rid emo in a heartbeat.

 

[La_She-Beast]

like "posh"?

 

[chaseter]

I don't like Emo's either.

 

[Secret_Riddle]

i loved superman returns and im really upset he didnt do x3.

 

[CapBeerCino]

I would say get a clue but I am sure it would be wasted on you.

Keep shouting your opinions around, maybe someone will listen. not.

Singer didn't do X3 because WB offered him a truckload of cash to do SR and FOX wasn't going to match it.

This is the first time I hear that, and unless you're Mr. Singer's accountant- I don't buy it.

If they had matched it guess what he would have done whatever they told him to do just like Ratner did you can ignore the facts all you want that doesn't change them.

So now your 'what if?' scenario became the facts the rest of us stupidly ignore?

I would say get a clue but I am sure it would be wasted on you...

 

[ntcrawler]

like "posh"?

No no. It has more to do with people who don't feel good about themselves regarding their social lives or self esteem and choose to live "underground". Spending most of their time in front of webcams, dressing up like vampires or other forms of the undead, listening to lyrics that point to how dark the world is or about suicide, and write poems about how trees cry because people cut them down, and are known for throwing hysterical fits over trivial things

"Posh" is more like Emma Frost

 

[Majik1387]

Emo's are wannabe goths.

 

[Halcohol]

Emo's are wannabe goths.

That's probably the most accurate, concise definition of 'emo' I've ever heard. Right on.

 

[Majik1387]

Yeah, see most of the time Goths have real problems. Emo's are brats who want attention so they pretend they have problems.

 

[Halcohol]

Then there's the people who just pretend they DON'T have problems

 

[La_She-Beast]

No no. It has more to do with people who don't feel good about themselves regarding their social lives or self esteem and choose to live "underground". Spending most of their time in front of webcams, dressing up like vampires or other forms of the undead, listening to lyrics that point to how dark the world is or about suicide, and write poems about how trees cry because people cut them down, and are known for throwing hysterical fits over trivial things

"Posh" is more like Emma Frost

No no. It has more to do with people who don't feel good about themselves regarding their social lives or self esteem and choose to live "underground". Spending most of their time in front of webcams, dressing up like vampires or other forms of the undead, listening to lyrics that point to how dark the world is or about suicide, and write poems about how trees cry because people cut them down, and are known for throwing hysterical fits over trivial things

"Posh" is more like Emma Frost

Ooooh... "gótica"... yeah well...but I like the way they admire Tim Burton's films and they wear Nightmare Before Christmas shirts Also I like their perspectives/interests related with literature & culture (speciallly movies)... but yeah it's true they don't sound/look very positive when you talk with them
when tonytr1687 said gelled hair and tight pants I thought of 'pijo' (posh) I didn't pay attention to the other descriptions lol indeed emma frost

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

I'd have to say Singer. If it wasn't for his direction style, I wouldn't be here... and I still feel that he should have done X3 the way it could have been done cause I mean, he's the one who started it all and he should have finished it off. -pouts- I think his directing style is what drew some of the actors like Famke, James and several others to Singer cause he wanted the X-World to be set in a more realistic World as we know it today and I think it worked.

 

[ntcrawler]

Yeah, see most of the time Goths have real problems. Emo's are brats who want attention so they pretend they have problems.

And people realize that, and so ignore them. And being ignored is one of their problems and why they're emo. It's one of those tragic cycles

 

[NateGray]

Keep shouting your opinions around, maybe someone will listen. not.



This is the first time I hear that, and unless you're Mr. Singer's accountant- I don't buy it.



So now your 'what if?' scenario became the facts the rest of us stupidly ignore?

I would say get a clue but I am sure it would be wasted on you...

You really are ******ED aren't you????

Everything I posted can be proved VIA the you know Internet MORON

Maybe instead of acting like you have a frelling clue you should actually get one dip****....
You know check your facts before posting more of your tripe smart ass answers that one would expect form someone with your diminutive IQ.

I will post these again so you can attempt to change these facts or prove me wrong.....

FACT Singer got paid a Truckload of money to do SR
FACT WB had a chance to match the offer and didn't which cause the much publicized split between FOX and Singer you know the one where they didn't even let him back on the FOX lot until after him and Rothman made up several weeks later....

Those are both FACTS much as your limited brain refuses to accept them they can be checked on these very boards if you go back a couple years or do some research on the internet.

 

[tkenji69]

ur kiddin right? its only the most ridiculous form of fashion and style that certain young people have adopted over recent years. symptoms of emo include overly gelled hair hanging over the eyes, cutting of the wrists, listening to crappy emo music, tight pants, and *****ing about everything because it's "cool."

Uhhh NO... EMO stands for emotional... Cyclops equals very EMO. My problem with Singer is that he has no idea on how to bring action to the screen. Just look at X1 Wolverine versus Sabertooth this should of been the showdowns of all showdowns... i guess I'll just have to wait for Wolverine the movie and hope Singer stays far away.

 

[NateGray]

I take it you never looked at the TAS or read any of the comics? He got the inner struggles of Rogue down perfectly. He was slowly building her up to become much like her comic book counterpart.

Xavier in X1 and X2? Very much like his comic book counterpart. I do, however, wish he had left the scene of Xavier overpowering Jason in the Dark Cerebro in X2.

Scott wasn't emo at all in X1. It's clear you didn't watch the film or else you'd see he was very close to his comic book counterpart as the leader and one who cared about his girlfriend.

Granted there wasn't a lot of him in X1 and not much of him in X2, but when he was there, it was ultimate pure Cyclops at his best and I'd like to see you keep your emotions straight after watching your girlfriend die.

I do agree with you about Storm. But as I said before, I was never into Storm as a character so her depiction never bothered me much.

Jean being a doctor isn't that big of a deal. She was and is a very intelligent woman, so her being a doctor really didn't bother me at all. She may've not been a doctor in the comics but the character of Jean very much resembled the comic book Jean.

Sabretooth I somewhat agree with you. But they(Fox) screwed Singer on the budget and he couldn't create a faithful Sabretooth. I felt Sabretooth was lacking in intelligence, but his attitude and his coldness was there at the heart of the character.

"You owe me a scream." That is something Sabretooth would say too.

Toad? Never cared for his character, so I could really careless.

He got more right than Ratner, Kinberg, and Penn could ever dream of.

All I can say is WOW do you even read the comic books because I am guessing NO....

I have roughly 5000+ comic books some Marvel some DC and I still collect and have been since long before the Xmen movie and umm WRONG Scott was horribly portrayed in Xmen sorry but my Cyclops DOES NOT LISTEN TO IN-SYNC maybe your EMO Scott does but his comic book counter part DOES NOT.
He is also the leader without question and they do a horrible job of showing it until what one minute before the end of the movie....

Rogue's inner struggles LMAO yeh again not even close if you read comics you might know this but its obvious at this point you do not and like Aveatwhateverhisname is are basing the movie off TAS and it was barley close to the comic's.
Rogue at the time when the movie came out had just recently been able to hook up with Gambit VIA a machine Joseph made which nullified her powers so again please do not post about things which you have no frelling clue See onslaught saga....
Rogue hadn't had the type of inner struggles Singer was trying to portray since her early devolpment and even then it was pretty glossed over.
Singers rogue is NOT anything like her comic book counterpart.

Famke looking like Jean is all well and good but the way they showed her was all wrong and yes it is a big deal to be a Doctor its 8+ years of ones life to get that title so you blowing it off like its nothing is BS.
While Jean may be smart she has never been portrayed with the level of intelligence of Beast who is a Doctor so yeh it was all wrong.

As for the Ratner Penn comment umm they had to work with what Singer left them and they did just as well as he did in butchering mutants that I will agree on.

 

[X-Maniac]

All I can say is WOW do you even read the comic books because I am guessing NO....

I have roughly 5000+ comic books some Marvel some DC and I still collect and have been since long before the Xmen movie and umm WRONG Scott was horribly portrayed in Xmen sorry but my Cyclops DOES NOT LISTEN TO IN-SYNC maybe your EMO Scott does but his comic book counter part DOES NOT.
He is also the leader without question and they do a horrible job of showing it until what one minute before the end of the movie....

Rogue's inner struggles LMAO yeh again not even close if you read comics you might know this but its obvious at this point you do not and like Aveatwhateverhisname is are basing the movie off TAS and it was barley close to the comic's.
Rogue at the time when the movie came out had just recently been able to hook up with Gambit VIA a machine Joseph made which nullified her powers so again please do not post about things which you have no frelling clue See onslaught saga....
Rogue hadn't had the type of inner struggles Singer was trying to portray since her early devolpment and even then it was pretty glossed over.
Singers rogue is NOT anything like her comic book counterpart.

Famke looking like Jean is all well and good but the way they showed her was all wrong and yes it is a big deal to be a Doctor its 8+ years of ones life to get that title so you blowing it off like its nothing is BS.
While Jean may be smart she has never been portrayed with the level of intelligence of Beast who is a Doctor so yeh it was all wrong.

As for the Ratner Penn comment umm they had to work with what Singer left them and they did just as well as he did in butchering mutants that I will agree on.

I agree with some of your points. I'd rather that Jean was never a doctor in the movies - that role should have been given to Beast or Moira MacTaggert.

Also, although they showed Rogue's power as a disadvantage, and although it kind of worked within the movie world to show her being insecure and taking the cure, that is not an accurate version of Rogue and it is not the point of these mutations. The X-gene kicks in as a survival mechanism, giving people special powers that help them survive and be superior to normal Homo Sapiens. Her power should have been seen as an advantage.

 

[ntcrawler]

I agree with some of your points. I'd rather that Jean was never a doctor in the movies - that role should have been given to Beast or Moira MacTaggert.

Beast wasn't in the first two movies. Someone had to take his place. And even in X3 we don't get to see his scientist side. He's more of a politician who can quote lots of things rather than the genius we've known him to be who uses brains as well as muscle to save the day.

Regarding Moira, I'm sorry but that wouldn't work. It's never been established what Moira's background and roles are, so its open to interpretation. We will never know what her character's story is except for someone in a labcoat that appears in 3 scenes, two of which are essentially cameos to give us eye candy.

I have no problem with Jean being portrayed as a doctor / researcher. In fact I consider that a brilliant part by the writers as it instantly gives her a much needed and interesting background and boost to her character's strength. She's no longer just another telepath or just another pilot but has something very useful to contrubite to her team and to the cause.

Also, although they showed Rogue's power as a disadvantage, and although it kind of worked within the movie world to show her being insecure and taking the cure, that is not an accurate version of Rogue and it is not the point of these mutations.

Agreed. Either way, she took a sudden nosedive in X3 and for selfish, shallow reasons.

 

[x-fan]

they could have given us the nonfurry beast but didnt and instead corrupted another character, and when beast came onto the scene his position had to be changed to polition instead of dactor said, thanks singer for giving me shadowrogue and jean mccoy broodybobby and on and on is it too much tohhope that when they finally do another x-men movie they give us a creative team that will indeed give us the x-men in all their glory and not more of the this watered down stuff they call the movie verse x-men??????????

 

[CapBeerCino]

You really are ******ED aren't you????

Everything I posted can be proved VIA the you know Internet MORON

Maybe instead of acting like you have a frelling clue you should actually get one dip****....
You know check your facts before posting more of your tripe smart ass answers that one would expect form someone with your diminutive IQ.

I will post these again so you can attempt to change these facts or prove me wrong.....

FACT Singer got paid a Truckload of money to do SR
FACT WB had a chance to match the offer and didn't which cause the much publicized split between FOX and Singer you know the one where they didn't even let him back on the FOX lot until after him and Rothman made up several weeks later....

Those are both FACTS much as your limited brain refuses to accept them they can be checked on these very boards if you go back a couple years or do some research on the internet.

Here's an idea: why won't you take your 'FACTS' and shove them?

 

[LastSunrise1981]

they could have given us the nonfurry beast but didnt and instead corrupted another character, and when beast came onto the scene his position had to be changed to polition instead of dactor said, thanks singer for giving me shadowrogue and jean mccoy broodybobby and on and on is it too much tohhope that when they finally do another x-men movie they give us a creative team that will indeed give us the x-men in all their glory and not more of the this watered down stuff they call the movie verse x-men??????????

Well, from Singer's own admission, he had every intention on bringing in Beast from the very beginning. But Fox screwed him over in terms of the budget, time, and creativity really.

Human Beast was in X2 as a cameo, but that doesn't count at all.

Rogue was slowly coming into her own in X2, she used her powers to stop Pyro from killing innocent people, she was about to drain Magneto(thus showing some of her spunk), she flew the X-Jet and while she was in shock and scared she still manage to save them, and at the end she's there standing proud and confident(in uniform mind you) with the X-Men in the White House.

So there were a lot of things that was showing her coming into her own.

Beast was excellent in X3. I was hoping we'd see more of him and more them displaying his genius level IQ.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

All I can say is WOW do you even read the comic books because I am guessing NO....

I have roughly 5000+ comic books some Marvel some DC and I still collect and have been since long before the Xmen movie and umm WRONG Scott was horribly portrayed in Xmen sorry but my Cyclops DOES NOT LISTEN TO IN-SYNC maybe your EMO Scott does but his comic book counter part DOES NOT.
He is also the leader without question and they do a horrible job of showing it until what one minute before the end of the movie....

Rogue's inner struggles LMAO yeh again not even close if you read comics you might know this but its obvious at this point you do not and like Aveatwhateverhisname is are basing the movie off TAS and it was barley close to the comic's.
Rogue at the time when the movie came out had just recently been able to hook up with Gambit VIA a machine Joseph made which nullified her powers so again please do not post about things which you have no frelling clue See onslaught saga....
Rogue hadn't had the type of inner struggles Singer was trying to portray since her early devolpment and even then it was pretty glossed over.
Singers rogue is NOT anything like her comic book counterpart.

Famke looking like Jean is all well and good but the way they showed her was all wrong and yes it is a big deal to be a Doctor its 8+ years of ones life to get that title so you blowing it off like its nothing is BS.
While Jean may be smart she has never been portrayed with the level of intelligence of Beast who is a Doctor so yeh it was all wrong.

As for the Ratner Penn comment umm they had to work with what Singer left them and they did just as well as he did in butchering mutants that I will agree on.

I have read the comics, watched the animated series, and have been an X-Men fan since I was 7 years old son, I know exactly what I'm talking about.

I'm not saying that EVERY change they made was faithful to the comics. But to say those changes to Jean and so forth ruined the movie, is nothing more than a load of bull. No one ever said Jean was a genius, but to say she wasn't intelligent or making her into a doctor butchered her character is another bull**** lie.

Her being a telepathic she could find out things that other people only dream of finding out.

But if you want to get on Singer about Beast and so forth, then blame Fox for screwing him over in that department. I remember him saying he wanted to include Beast as an introductory character in X1, and in his blue form that we know him as in X2, and guess what son? Fox screwed him over with the budget so that he couldn't include Beast earlier on in the story.

So in actuality he had to do something and while Jean wasn't and isn't a doctor in the comics, it didn't make me pissed off or feel as though the movie was ruined over a small change.

I highly suggest you watch the deleted scenes of Cyclops. I was disappointed they deleted them from the actual movie, but it shows Cyclops in his true bad ass leader form and not taking **** from anyone.

Who's say Cyclops listened to Nsync? Just because it was in his cd compartment doesn't mean he was listening to it, because for all we know Jean maybe listening to them. But seriously, I believe Singer included that due to the fact that Nsync was huge during that year and were everywhere at the time.

 

[x-fan]

see this is how the transformer fans feel about the changes being made to their beloved favorites except here the majority say ohhh that would look dumb if done from the books, or the changes are fine cause they couldnt get the budget ect... i feel sorry for those fans cause as a x-men fan i never got them on screen just like those guys over on the transformer boards are getting hammered

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I take it you never looked at the TAS or read any of the comics? He got the inner struggles of Rogue down perfectly. He was slowly building her up to become much like her comic book counterpart.

Xavier in X1 and X2? Very much like his comic book counterpart. I do, however, wish he had left the scene of Xavier overpowering Jason in the Dark Cerebro in X2.

Scott wasn't emo at all in X1. It's clear you didn't watch the film or else you'd see he was very close to his comic book counterpart as the leader and one who cared about his girlfriend.

Granted there wasn't a lot of him in X1 and not much of him in X2, but when he was there, it was ultimate pure Cyclops at his best and I'd like to see you keep your emotions straight after watching your girlfriend die.

I do agree with you about Storm. But as I said before, I was never into Storm as a character so her depiction never bothered me much.

Jean being a doctor isn't that big of a deal. She was and is a very intelligent woman, so her being a doctor really didn't bother me at all. She may've not been a doctor in the comics but the character of Jean very much resembled the comic book Jean.

Sabretooth I somewhat agree with you. But they(Fox) screwed Singer on the budget and he couldn't create a faithful Sabretooth. I felt Sabretooth was lacking in intelligence, but his attitude and his coldness was there at the heart of the character.

"You owe me a scream." That is something Sabretooth would say too.

Toad? Never cared for his character, so I could really careless.

He got more right than Ratner, Kinberg, and Penn could ever dream of.

Couldnt have said it better myself, perfectly put

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

You really are ******ED aren't you????

Everything I posted can be proved VIA the you know Internet MORON

Maybe instead of acting like you have a frelling clue you should actually get one dip****....
You know check your facts before posting more of your tripe smart ass answers that one would expect form someone with your diminutive IQ.

I will post these again so you can attempt to change these facts or prove me wrong.....

FACT Singer got paid a Truckload of money to do SR
FACT WB had a chance to match the offer and didn't which cause the much publicized split between FOX and Singer you know the one where they didn't even let him back on the FOX lot until after him and Rothman made up several weeks later....

Those are both FACTS much as your limited brain refuses to accept them they can be checked on these very boards if you go back a couple years or do some research on the internet.

Whats with the insults? This is no way to get people to listen to you, and only SOME of the stuff you claimed could be called fact, most of it is hear'say.

The cartoon was very close to the comics even Stan Lee said this, so read few more.