So being nice can come off being creepy...

I think some people view it as being creepy, others view it as just having no manners. I remember on the train back from work, some dude got pissed at another dude because he didn't get up when he saw some chick standing in the aisle because all the seats were taken. Like he was honestly on the verge of beating the dude down for not offering.


But most women will assume that any stranger that does something nice is subconsciously wanting in her pants. Even if he is just being decent. Basically, don't treat the females like ****, but don't put them on a pedestal either.

Here's the whole problem with guys on the Hype. They have the ***** on a pedestal. :cwink:
 
Ultimately you have to be your own person and live your own life. I see a lot of guys get this "White Knight" complex on here, this being a comic website and all.

I think there is a bit of a double standard in all fairness, though. Sometimes it is okay to help and be "chivalrous," and if you don't, you are rude. Other times you are an ******* if you just try to be nice and help. I honestly think though, it all comes down to the person. Someone like having nice things done for them...some people see it as "creepy" or "overstepping bounds" or "trying to get in their pants." It really just comes down to who you're helping, I think.
 
I think there is a bit of a double standard in all fairness, though. Sometimes it is okay to help and be "chivalrous," and if you don't, you are rude. Other times you are an ******* if you just try to be nice and help. I honestly think though, it all comes down to the person. Someone like having nice things done for them...some people see it as "creepy" or "overstepping bounds" or "trying to get in their pants." It really just comes down to who you're helping, I think.
I think it more comes down to simply having sense in a given situation. My friend Bora for example likes to be everyone's "naggy daddy". He corrects me on my driving (which would get anyone else killed), he gives advice where it's totally unwarranted, and once he tried to save these "girls" from being harassed by guys...that didn't go well. He also thinks he's God's gift to women. In reality he's pretty scrawny, a little odd looking and asks people way too many questions. He's a nice guy, but he doesn't know when to quit.

Holding doors and saying "please" and "thank you" is really all that's expected of you, I find. If you want to take it further, I think really you need some reason to. I could probably step into a physical confrontation at my size, Bora shouldn't be though because he ends up looking like a scene out of Revenge of the Nerds. He probably also shouldn't give me fitness advice either, since he's smaller than me. I understand he's being nice, but he's overstepping his boundaries big time.
 
I really don't see what the big deal is with the answers to that list. They seem pretty reasonable to me and I'm a guy. What they are saying is as a guy, don't just give your power away to girls like a dumbass.
 
So these woman are giving men permission to not give up their power? hmmm.
 
Courtesy is a contextual thing.

Sometimes it comes off as desperate, possibly pathetic, other times it will be quite appreciated.

Thing is, a girl knows whether she's interested in guy as soon as she sees him. If I'm awkward, have bad hygiene and a pronounced speech impediment, chances are no amount of courtesy will compensate for all that.
Sure, this is looking at it from a perspective where people judge you on your disposition and looks... But thats basically the world we live in.

This is just to say that I've seen girls put up with the biggest of jerks because they were attracted to them, whereas the best friend bent over backwards to be a gentlemen, living under the delusion that the nicer he'd be to her, the closer he'd come to winning her heart.
 
They should do a reverse gender version of this, that would be so much more interesting..

this is like basic knowledge.
 
The women in that article are simply saying that they are tired of guys who do "nice" things for them simply because they hope it will help them get into their pants, rather than just doing something for the sake of being nice and then going on their way.

jag

Though some girls just think guys are hitting on them when they're not.

I know once or twice I've had that problem. It's like, ****, I'm just trying to have a conversation with you.
 
I really don't see what the big deal is with the answers to that list. They seem pretty reasonable to me and I'm a guy. What they are saying is as a guy, don't just give your power away to girls like a dumbass.

I agree. It seems some guys don't know how to read social situations.
 
Though some girls just think guys are hitting on them when they're not.

I know once or twice I've had that problem. It's like, ****, I'm just trying to have a conversation with you.
It's probably because they are being hit on more often times than not.
 
The only way to not come off threatening is to go up to an average looking chick, the one you're sure never gets talked to. :p

But knowing guys, we talk to anything that has ****, so even she may have had a few annoyances in her day.
 
They should do a reverse gender version of this, that would be so much more interesting..

this is like basic knowledge.

Yeah, a lot of this is common knowledge. With the seat on the train, I almost never get up from my seat, but if there's only a limited number of seats left on a train, I'll always let a girl have one before I grab it. Unless I'm pretty tired, then it's every man, woman, child and elderly person for themselves.
 

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