So now they're suddenly promising the costume...

[CyclopsWasRight]

They never said there wouldn't be the traditional costumes. So it's not "sudddenly" and thus no backtracking in any way.

Like most recent origin movies they'll start with a prototype costume and then get a regular one near the end

The "fan"base simply refused to look to the future and realise this is the first movie and wouldn't deliver everything in one go. Movies these days aren't made to be one-offs they're made to last years of sequels. So rather than deliver the costumes right away they introduce them halfway through or near the end then have them for the whole of the sequel.

Batman begins, amazing spider-man, Captain America, Guardians. They all did this, they all started with prototype costumes

The reshoots were confirmed by the writer to have only been a few days and not reshooting the whole movie as some like to think nor would they even reshoot based on the feedback of a small select amount of the fanbase who have hated the movie since the cast was announced and in some cases befor then

 

[Flint Marko]

They never said there wouldn't be the traditional costumes. So it's not "sudddenly" and thus no backtracking in any way.

Like most recent origin movies they'll start with a prototype costume and then get a regular one near the end

The "fan"base simply refused to look to the future and realise this is the first movie and wouldn't deliver everything in one go. Movies these days aren't made to be one-offs they're made to last years of sequels. So rather than deliver the costumes right away they introduce them halfway through or near the end then have them for the whole of the sequel.

Batman begins, amazing spider-man, captain America. They all did this, they all started with prototype costumes

If they were always meant to be prototype suits that would be discarded towards the middle/end of the first movie then why did MBJ speak of the containment suits as the only costumes?
http://spinoff.comicbookresources.c...suits-in-gritty-reboot-michael-b-jordan-says/
Nowhere in that does he say anything about there being an evolution of the suits, he talks about how tough it was getting in and out of it during shooting (implying that is the main costume used throughout the movie) and how "gritty" it is.
Make sense now why people got up in arms over it? And how people are now calling BS at Teller saying they are suddenly promising costumes? Because, again, before they didn't promise costumes, they promised "containment suits". I'm betting they were added in the extensive reshoots (that Kinberg said would only be 3-4 days) due to fan backlash.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

I think we will see the classic costumes at the end of the film.

 

[Docker2.0]

What's up with all these new posters?

 

[Flint Marko]

I think we will see the classic costumes at the end of the film.

Personally, that would be too little too late. They just tack on some blue outfits at the end, it'll be glaringly obvious they did that for fan service.

 

[Docker2.0]

I actually think they will add the costumes now because of the backlash, even if they have to add them with CGI. They have to save face some kind of way. Those reshoots were not for nothing.

 

[Miken Ayers]

I actually think they will add the costumes now because of the backlash, even if they have to add them with CGI. They have to save face some kind of way. Those reshoots were not for nothing.

I guess no reshoots with Doom were feasible. Notice how after the facts of his character came up there was no more mention of Doom, or anymore interviews with the actor? Miles Teller won't shut up to the media, but there seems to be a gag order on absolutely everyone else.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Personally, that would be too little too late. They just tack on some blue outfits at the end, it'll be glaringly obvious they did that for fan service.

I guess so, but another way of looking at it is the Fantastic 4 will be ready to go for the sequel. (Just like the Guardians of the Galaxy)

 

[moviedoors]

If they were always meant to be prototype suits that would be discarded towards the middle/end of the first movie then why did MBJ speak of the containment suits as the only costumes?
http://spinoff.comicbookresources.c...suits-in-gritty-reboot-michael-b-jordan-says/
Nowhere in that does he say anything about there being an evolution of the suits, he talks about how tough it was getting in and out of it during shooting (implying that is the main costume used throughout the movie) and how "gritty" it is.
Make sense now why people got up in arms over it? And how people are now calling BS at Teller saying they are suddenly promising costumes? Because, again, before they didn't promise costumes, they promised "containment suits". I'm betting they were added in the extensive reshoots (that Kinberg said would only be 3-4 days) due to fan backlash.

Has anyone involved in the production flat-out stated that there would be no traditional outfits? Yeah, they've talked about the containment suits, but had anyone unambiguously confirmed their absence.

 

[moviedoors]

I guess no reshoots with Doom were feasible. Notice how after the facts of his character came up there was no more mention of Doom, or anymore interviews with the actor? Miles Teller won't shut up to the media, but there seems to be a gag order on absolutely everyone else.

Miles Teller is busy promoting other movies right now, so it makes sense that he's talked about it more recently. He's been on mic more than any other cast member in the last month between the Oscars and Insurgant.

And further, none of the statements he's made recently were done so within the specific context of promoting this movie.

 

[starscream22]

The "fan"base simply refused to look to the future

Au contraire. It's safe to say that the vast majority of CBM fans in general would rather the "future" of Fantastic Four films be set in the MCU. H3ll the future of this franchise couldn't be more positive than that. So apparently you either haven't been paying attention or simply enjoy posting indirect "Trollery" for the thrill of reading the backlash from it, so here you go....

 

[starscream22]

Has anyone involved in the production flat-out stated that there would be no traditional outfits? Yeah, they've talked about the containment suits, but had anyone unambiguously confirmed their absence.

The overall understanding of this film from the filmmakers stance has pretty much been, "I'm doing this film my way and if you don't like it then you can $@#$#!" (or something like that)

But since Fox put the muzzle on Trank once it dawned on them again that CBM's are actually a big deal, they're back to hustling backwards. Miles Teller clearly doesn't know what's going on in the editing room which is why in recent interviews he's imploring them to some how turn garbage into gold. At the same time he's trying his best appeal to the fans while covering his own @$$.

 

[SuperT]

I don't remember them ever saying they wouldn't have the traditional costumes in some form or fashion....?

 

[moviedoors]

The overall understanding of this film from the filmmakers stance has pretty much been, "I'm doing this film my way and if you don't like it then you can $@#$#!" (or something like that)

But since Fox put the muzzle on Trank once it dawned on them again that CBM's are actually a big deal, they're back to hustling backwards. Miles Teller clearly doesn't know what's going on in the editing room which is why in recent interviews he's imploring them to some how turn garbage into gold. At the same time he's trying his best appeal to the fans while covering his own @$$.

So in other words, "no."

And of course Teller doesn't know what's going on in the editing room. Unless an actor is also a producer, or a super-mega-star, they generally don't see what goes on in post. That's normal.

 

[Flint Marko]

Au contraire. It's safe to say that the vast majority of CBM fans in general would rather the "future" of Fantastic Four films be set in the MCU. H3ll the future of this franchise couldn't be more positive than that. So apparently you either haven't been paying attention or simply enjoy posting indirect "Trollery" for the thrill of reading the backlash from it, so here you go....

 

[Flint Marko]

Has anyone involved in the production flat-out stated that there would be no traditional outfits? Yeah, they've talked about the containment suits, but had anyone unambiguously confirmed their absence.

MBJ, when asked about the suits, speaks only about how much of a departure it is from the comics and that they are "containment suits". So it's been safe to assume since day one that those will be used throughout most, if not all, of the movie, and if there are blue traditional outfits that they will come in towards the very end after these reshoots. Which, as it's been noted by me and others here, is too little too late.

 

[moviedoors]

I'm sure it was always to going to be the containment suits as the primary look, but I'm not convinced that they never planned to upgrade the suits by the end. I've not been presented with a reason to think otherwise yet.

 

[Flint Marko]

I'm sure it was always to going to be the containment suits as the primary look, but I'm not convinced that they never planned to upgrade the suits by the end. I've not been presented with a reason to think otherwise yet.

Yet you've certainly not been presented a reason to think that, so it's odd you are jumping to that conclusion. Sounds like you are just filling in the blanks with wishful thinking. Especially when in that same interview MBJ talks about how they aren't going the "cheesy costume route" and how much of a departure their version is. Kinda seems like he's somewhat throwing shade at the classic costumes, which wouldn't lead me to believe it was always the plan to wear them at the end of the movie. Again, believe what you want, but that's quite a leap of logic.

 

[Zarex]

I guess so, but another way of looking at it is the Fantastic 4 will be ready to go for the sequel. (Just like the Guardians of the Galaxy)

The Guardians were good to go after the Kyln escape, which took place within the first half hour of the film.

It doesn't sound like we're getting anything close to the FF until the tail end of Fant4stic. And their real time to shine will be 2017.

 

[Val_Zod]

After reading a few of the comments here, I got to say, while I am not excited for this film, and would prefer Marvel get FF back, some of you guys are letting your dislike for a film not even out yet btw blind your judgement.

 

[moviedoors]

Yet you've certainly not been presented a reason to think that, so it's odd you are jumping to that conclusion. Sounds like you are just filling in the blanks with wishful thinking. Especially when in that same interview MBJ talks about how they aren't going the "cheesy costume route" and how much of a departure their version is. Kinda seems like he's somewhat throwing shade at the classic costumes, which wouldn't lead me to believe it was always the plan to wear them at the end of the movie. Again, believe what you want, but that's quite a leap of logic.

MBJ also didn't flat out say "no new costumes." What I'm asking for is a direct quote previous to Teller saying the containment suits were the one and only plan. It doesn't exists. A lot of assumptions about the nature of the reshoot are just taken as common knowledge around here. I could be wrong too. But you guys are so damn sure of so many things you cannot be sure of.

 

[Flint Marko]

MBJ also didn't flat out say "no new costumes." What I'm asking for is a direct quote previous to Teller saying the containment suits were the one and only plan. It doesn't exists. A lot of assumptions about the nature of the reshoot are just taken as common knowledge around here. I could be wrong too. But you guys are so damn sure of so many things you cannot be sure of.

You're right that the exact quote does not exist, but looking at what we do have, my point still stands. I'm using context clues and critical thinking to deduce that it's unlikely the classic costumes would have shown up in any way, shape, or form when MBJ called them "cheesy superhero outfits". I think that's a fair, reasonable assumption. I'm not believing what I want for no reason.
Also I'm not saying that's definitely what's going on here. Rather I am looking at what we do know and making guesses as to what the most probable outcome is. And as I said, my point still stands.

 

[starscream22]

So in other words, "no."

And of course Teller doesn't know what's going on in the editing room. Unless an actor is also a producer, or a super-mega-star, they generally don't see what goes on in post. That's normal.

The excuses some of you make up for this reboot are anything but normal.


So in other words.....I'm sure those who matter get the bigger picture here.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

During production of the first Tim Story film, I remember being told things from people working on the film that turned out to be exaggerations or outright lies (such as Avi Arad saying they would fix the wrinkles in The Thing's suit with CGI), that I'm going to need more than Miles Teller hinting that maybe we'll get better looking suits at some point - possibly not until the sequel - to breathe a sigh of relief.

The costumes we've seen look awful and they will almost certainly be the suits worn by the characters through most of the film.

Show me something better and I'll take a look. Until then, I'm not giving the studio the benefit of any doubts. They haven't earned it.

 

[Docker2.0]

During production of the first Tim Story film, I remember being told things from people working on the film that turned out to be exaggerations or outright lies (such as Avi Arad saying they would fix the wrinkles in The Thing's suit with CGI), that I'm going to need more than Miles Teller hinting that maybe we'll get better looking suits at some point - possibly not until the sequel - to breathe a sigh of relief.

The costumes we've seen look awful and they will almost certainly be the suits worn by the characters through most of the film.

Show me something better and I'll take a look. Until then, I'm not giving the studio the benefit of any doubts. They haven't earned it.

Remember the lie Story said about us seeing Galactus "in all his glory?" The thing that killed me was when people said they could see Galactus in that cloud which was BS. I actually like F42 but there was no purple guy in that cloud at all.