Some info from WatchmenComicMovie.Com

This is realer and darker; an R rated period film that has great characters and a page turning storyline.
For those of us that have read the comics/trade editions... we know, bub.
Tell us summat we don't.

And as this Deep Throat of the WATCHMEN movie world was responding directly to a dedicated fansite presumably pretty well versed in the original AND if Snyder-Man is gonna be the Mr Faithful-To-The-Source everyone has got him pegged to be... then what possible spoilers could our insider be refraining from giving away? Surely, we'll be getting meetings of The Minutemen then The Crimebusters, Hooded Justice pounding The Comedian, Rorschach torching the kiddienapper, Veidt taking out half NYC with a big old faked alien squid, and moreover living to see another day at the end so that he can manipulate his Brave New World.


Won't we...?
 
Personally I hope we don't get the giant fake alien squid - but your point is a very valid one.
 
Personally I hope we don't get the giant fake alien squid - but your point is a very valid one.

I agree, if anything was going to be altered from the graphic novel for the film (or should be), I would put the enormous calamari creature at the top of the list. It would create such a "wtf?" moment that could destroy any suspension of disbelief that the audience may have been still clinging on to up to that moment in the film. Also, attempting to explain the how the alien was developed, exploded, and killed people on screen would be an expository nightmare that would not translate over well from the written page.

The audience will have a chance through the long course of the film to get used to and even identify somewhat with ideas and characters like Dr. Manhattan, but I think the alien idea would be so out there on film that it would stick out and be derided, especially given the little forewarning before it appears.
 
But hasn't Snyder already gone on record to say he won't dumb down for the sake of a teenybopper audience... that people will have to come to WATCHMEN, WTF? moments an' all, and not vice versa?

The two seem irreconcilable to me.
 
we need the fake alien. what is the other possibility? a bomb? i don't like the idea of a bomb. for most comics, i'd say it open to opinion, but with watchmen, i'd say you should pretty much just go with what brought you to the dance. there's a nice richness that goes into the alien thing. the kidnapped writer and artist and all that. the people who designed and made this alien thing work. it's a good little side story. and the way veidt describes the pseudoscience can be updated a little, but it's not so bad. i mean, if you just don't want it to be a squid, that's cool. but it needs to be a giant alien creature. or maybe an alien spacecraft would work. but it has to be alien. that's the whole idea. i don't know what it is people don't want. but as long as it's alien, it all works.
 
Framing Doc Manhattan and vaporizing the populace with energy rays supposedly wrought by him? That's kinda the act of an 'alien' influence, I guess... but just doesn't do it for me.
 
yeah. that doesn't really work. veidt's whole plan was to bring the world together to fight against an OUTSIDE force. manhattan is america's hero, so the rest of the world would blame america. and even if america sided with the rest of the world, they would all take down manhattan OR he would leave the planet and everyone would go back to fighting. BUT if the whole world still thinks these aliens are going to attack, everyone will band together for the sake of earth. that's the whole point of it being aliens. so i don't like the whole "framing doc manhattan" idea either.
 
I'm with the alien plot. It's far-fetched, but so what--this is a movie. If we are made to accept Doctor Manhattan and a giant red lynx, then we can accept some other crazy stuff. And Ozymandias totally explains how the creature was created, thanks in part to Doctor Manhattan's influence.
 
if film makers just went **** it and just done it, i hounestly think it would work. none of this using a bomb insted of the fake alien. one other example would be galactus, we would of had him if the makers just went for it, and i would of worked.

film makers need to just do it, and not think about what would work, its a film, they are creating/re-creating a universe they can do whatever they want just as the source material did.

that wtf moment in watchmen worked really well, specially because niteowl was thinking the same as the readers.
 
And as this Deep Throat of the WATCHMEN movie world was responding directly to a dedicated fansite presumably pretty well versed in the original AND if Snyder-Man is gonna be the Mr Faithful-To-The-Source everyone has got him pegged to be... then what possible spoilers could our insider be refraining from giving away?

While I'm not as full of beans as you are over this alleged "insider", your argument does make a lot of sense.

If the film's script is true to the comic, then the concept of a narrative-related spoiler is rendered meaningless ("It was Veidt the whole time!"). The only other variety of spoiler -- that doesn't represent some crass defiling of the source material -- would be one of omission: "Sorry, guys: No Dr. Malcom Long in the film," or "No Captain Metropolis!"

Any true spoiler would have to amount to a deviation from the comic-book, negating his whole original assertion that it is "very true to the book." Like Veidt making it seem that Dr. Manhattan is pissing laser beams on New York.

It sounds like the dude is just trying to sincerely defend this project, but is too fearful of losing the gig to leak pictures or whatever. And who can't respect that?
 

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