Sony: Blu-Ray on PS3 has "nothing to do with movies"

[imdaly]

Launch titles for the PlayStation 3 are already "getting up close" to the 25GB limit on current Blu-Ray discs, according to Sony's worldwide studios boss Phil Harrison, who was responding to criticism of the PS3's adoption of Blu-Ray.

"Already, at our launch titles, we're getting up close to the 25GB limit that we have on our Blu-Ray discs this year," he claimed. "Next year we'll raise that to 50GB, and I'd expect that we'll be getting close to that in the fairly near future as well."

Speaking in an interview with Eurogamer's Rob Fahey, Harrison decried suggestions that the Blu-Ray drive had been included in the machine purely to push Sony's agenda with regard to Blu-Ray movies.
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"It's got nothing to do with movies," he responded. "DVD is not sufficient capacity to power the kind of data consumption, or to feed the data consumption needs of Cell and RSX - just purely as a gameplay device, we need Blu-Ray to supply the kind of data that PS3 games use."

Harrison also responded to questioning about the claim that the capacity of Blu-Ray will be used simply to provide more high definition movie sequences, effectively filling the discs - and games - with non-interactive content.

"It's not just about graphics," he said. "It's about 7.1 audio, it's about speech, it's about having up to 1080p movies built into the game; it's high-res textures, it's animation, it's everything that goes into making a very rich and varied next-gen experience. Partly it's visual, partly it's sound, and partially it'll be down to gameplay benefits as well - more levels, more detail, richer experiences."

However, he also defended the right of developers to include rendered video in their games - a key feature of many titles, even on next-generation systems.

"I see nothing wrong with having non-interactive, full HD sequences as part of the game," he said. "That's all part of the production value and the experience that you get when you buy the game. I don't see that as a weakness at all."

The Blu-Ray drive in the PS3 has been blamed both for contributing heavily to the cost of the system, and for causing the production delays which ultimately led to the decision to move the European launch back to 2007. Microsoft has accused Sony of taking choice away from consumers by including Blu-Ray - the Xbox 360 will have an optional external HD-DVD drive, although this can only be used for movie playback and will not be accessible to game developers.

Meanwhile, some consumers have questioned the value of Blu-Ray to videogames, given the ability of developers to fit games on the scale of Xbox 360 and PC title Oblivion onto a single DVD - although it should be noted that Oblivion, despite its scale, is a relatively early next-gen title. Many early titles in the previous generation shipped on CDs, but DVDs were widespread within a year to eighteen months, as developers learned to exploit more of the systems' functionality and streamlined the content creation process.

Harrison acknowledged that some early titles will not make full use of Blu-Ray's capacity, but was adamant that the standard will be vital to the PS3 in the coming years. "Not every game is going to fill 25 or 50GB," he said. "I completely accept that - but there will be games that require that this year, and will push that further in years to come."

Phil Harrison was speaking in an exclusive interview on the PlayStation 3, which is currently being serialised on the recently launched ThreeSpeech website, with additional excerpts set to appear on Eurogamer in the coming days.

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Yeah...riiiiiiiight.

 

[TrailerCues]

I would have probably believed this if this was said shortly after Blu-Ray was first announced to be included with the PS3 but now its a little to late.

 

[WhatsHisFace]

That's a bit... extremely stupid. Especially considering the PS3 is backwards compatible with PS1 games.

 

[Avalanche]

The whole Blur-Ray v. HD-DVD thing was just on ITV news over here in the UK. It seemed to sway more toward Blu-Ray, though the general advice was jsut to wait until there's a clear winner. They claimed HD-DVD was currently the market leader in the US.

 

[imdaly]

The whole Blur-Ray v. HD-DVD thing was just on ITV news over here in the UK. It seemed to sway more toward Blu-Ray, though the general advice was jsut to wait until there's a clear winner. They claimed HD-DVD was currently the market leader in the US.

If I'm not mistaken, Blow-Ray JUST now became available over there, and HD-DVD isn't appearing until next month, right?

It was the same over here...Blu-Ray seemed to be superior until they both became available to see for yourself. That was when the tide started turning toward HD-DVD.

 

[Horrorfan]

You know the tards who are gonna get a ps3 would buy this completely, as they have with every other lie sony have told so far.


People are idiots.

 

[Horrorfan]

The whole Blur-Ray v. HD-DVD thing was just on ITV news over here in the UK. It seemed to sway more toward Blu-Ray, though the general advice was jsut to wait until there's a clear winner. They claimed HD-DVD was currently the market leader in the US.

But then, most people in the UK are ******ed nowadays, me and a few others aside

 

[zanos]

The whole Blur-Ray v. HD-DVD thing was just on ITV news over here in the UK. It seemed to sway more toward Blu-Ray, though the general advice was jsut to wait until there's a clear winner. They claimed HD-DVD was currently the market leader in the US.

I think the clear winner may become very apparent once a couple million units of the PS3 are sold here in the US. How many ppl will have a hd dvd player in comparison? Not to mention single layer Blu Ray discs have a compacity of 25 gb as opposed to 12 for hd dvd.

 

[paulyfknt90]

blu ray wins, if your gonna buy a ps3 than you already have a next gen hd movie player, i mean your not gonna go out and buy an hd dvd player when you already have one.

so yea blu ray wins this race

 

[Horrorfan]

my faith in humanity dies a little each day

 

[Mentok]

blu ray wins, if your gonna buy a ps3 than you already have a next gen hd movie player, i mean your not gonna go out and buy an hd dvd player when you already have one.

so yea blu ray wins this race

Jesus ****ing christ on a stick

 

[swifty]

I think the clear winner may become very apparent once a couple million units of the PS3 are sold here in the US. How many ppl will have a hd dvd player in comparison? Not to mention single layer Blu Ray discs have a compacity of 25 gb as opposed to 12 for hd dvd.

apparently your knowledge of HD-dvd is limited if you think single layer hd-dvd is 12gb. Do your research first before posting misinformation.

 

[paulyfknt90]

Jesus ****ing christ on a stick

what now?


wow im constantly being bashed by a bunch of ****in ass wholes who got nuthing better to do than be ***** to me

 

[Mentok]

what now?


wow im constantly being bashed by a bunch of ****in ass wholes who got nuthing better to do than be ***** to me

Re-read your post and understand why its stupid.

 

[paulyfknt90]

^ its not stupid its true.

"They claimed HD-DVD was currently the market leader in the US."


once ps3 launches here people will have the ps3s blu ray as the next gen dvd player. im trying to say there not gonna go out and buy an HD- DVD player.


ehh **** it what ever

 

[Mentok]

^ its not stupid its true.

"They claimed HD-DVD was currently the market leader in the US."


once ps3 launches here people will have the ps3s blu ray as the next gen dvd player. im trying to say there not gonna go out and buy an HD- DVD player.


ehh **** it what ever

1- You assume that because they have a low rent BR-DVD player they will buy BR-DVD Movies.

2- You assume that people have a display to warrant buying BR-DVD movies over DVD.

3- You assume that people wont sit back and make up their mind over which is the best option (which at the moment is clearly a HD-DVD player).

4- You declare BR-DVD the winner.

 

[paulyfknt90]

^ i garentee blu ray will win


people who are buying a ps3 will already have a br player, do you think there gonna shell out another 700-1000 on a HD-DVD player.

 

[Mentok]

^ i garentee blu ray will win

Jesus ****ing Christ with a whole bunch of roses.

people who are buying a ps3 will already have a br player, do you think there gonna shell out another 700-1000 on a HD-DVD player.

You clearly have NO ****ING CLUE over how the whole AV scene works. Your posts reek of SONY fanboyism. The fact you assume that just because they have a LOW END BR-DVD PLAYER, they will stick with that (and BR-DVD) just shows how ignorant you are.

No one who is serious about upgradingt to a next gen video format will be buying the PS3 to fill those needs. Nor will they be buying the first gen players at the current prices.

Next you will be trying to convince me that DVD only worked so well because the PS2 supported it

Stop posting crap before its too late... Please.

 

[TrailerCues]

He has "Topdawg" written all over him

 

[Mentok]

Tell me about it.

 

[paulyfknt90]

^ actually i had a dvd player way before i got my first ps2.

and br playes br disks and dvd's


and im not a sont fan boy, theres other systems i love too, nintendo and xbox, i just dont wana spend 1,300 on all three systems

id rather just go high end and get a ps3, eventually ill get a wii also



but realy if you had a ps3, would you go out and buy an expensive HD-DVD player, when you got a perfictly good player already?

well of course your gonna say youd buy one.



AND WHO THE HELL IS TOPDOG? im seriusy not "topdog" i have no idea who he/she is.

can some one tell me?

 

[TrailerCues]

You do know that the 360 & its external HD-DVD drive put together is practically $100 dollars cheaper then the PS3 right. By your logic if people will go for the cheaper next gen dvd then guess what its the 360 & its HD-DVD

AND WHO THE HELL IS TOPDOG? im seriusy not "topdog" i have no idea who he/she is

Yeah we have heard that one before plenty of times

 

[paulyfknt90]

^ yea thats true, i just wish microsoft could have put this in before the system launched, it wrobably would have sold a few hundred or a few thousand more systems. i just dont like that its this big external drive, but you could always bring your system to a modder and have them put the drive into the xbox for you.

also when are they coming out wit the new line of 360s that have this build in?


o and i read on engadget that the new hd drive can connect to your pc via usb and you can watch your hd movies on your comp. thats prety cool



and sorry if im an anoyence, i just like getting a point accross without getin critisized (bashed) for it so

we good?

 

[Mentok]

^ actually i had a dvd player way before i got my first ps2.

So? did I say you didnt?

and br playes br disks and dvd's

Wow... thanks for that glorious piece of information there... My life has now changed forever.

and im not a sont fan boy, theres other systems i love too, nintendo and xbox, i just dont wana spend 1,300 on all three systems

Then stop posting stupid things like "BR-DVD wins because its in the PS3"

but realy if you had a ps3, would you go out and buy an expensive HD-DVD player, when you got a perfictly good player already?

Jesus... do you even read my posts? Prehaps you just dont understand them.

Once again YOU ASSUME that just because people have a LOW END BR-DVD playet they will stick with that for HD Movies. Stupid statement of the week right there.

well of course your gonna say youd buy one.

Did I say I was going to buy one?

No.

 

[paulyfknt90]

Quote:
well of course your gonna say youd buy one.

Did I say I was going to buy one?

No.


well you probably werent gonna agree with me