It Starts: Bad news for Blu-Ray

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I know this is probably better suited for the Movie Forum, but it's just as relevant for PS3, as it is as reliant on Blu-Ray succeeding as anything else:

PC Magazine said:
UNIVERSAL STUDIOS BACK OUT OF BLU-RAY

Universal Studios has decided not to release movies within the Blu-Ray format, according to a spokeswoman representing the Blu-Ray Disc Association. In an email sent to PC Magazine, a spokeswoman said that Universal had withdrawn its earlier support for the format. A PC Magazine reporter had requested supporting documents when researching a previous story documenting imprecisions in surveys released to bolster the Blu-Ray and competing HD-DVD format, although that request was not actually referenced in the email.

"This spring, you received materials explaining the advantages of the Blu-ray format for optical discs," the spokeswoman said. "Those materials explained that, to date, over 108 movie and music titles were scheduled for release in Blu-ray Disc and listed the studios behind those releases.
"Unfortunately, in the graphics accompanying that text, a few titles from Universal Studios were depicted," the email continued. "Although the Blu-ray format has many advantages over competing technologies and has the support of numerous studios including Disney, Fox, Sony Pictures, MGM, Lions Gate, Paramount and Warner, Universal has decided not to release titles in this format. We will let you know when and if that changes, along with other updates about how well the Blu-ray format has been accepted."
The report comes after Craig Kornblau, the president of Universal Studios Home Entertainment, was quoted by ITwire.com.au, speaking at the CEDIA consumer electronics show last week.

According to ITWire, Kornblau essentially handed the next-generation DVD crown to HD DVD: "Look at the blogs, look at the reviews by the early adopters and even look at the mainstream media -- HD DVD has maintained its first-to-market advantage and delivered on the promises of providing the best high definition image and sound quality at the best value for consumers today," Kornblau said.
Universal Music Group, which is owned by Europe's Vivendi, has supported the Blu-Ray format.
Although Blu-Ray seemed to have won the lion's share of supporters in the early going, the format has suffered from Sony's miscues. Sony has already run into Blu-Ray production issues, suffering from a shortage of blue lasers, which has forced the company to delay its PlayStation3 console in Europe, which uses a Blu-Ray drive.

Source: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2017527,00.asp



So it begins...

Any guesses on who's next to jump ship and take HD-DVD's hand?
 
imdaly said:
I know this is probably better suited for the Movie Forum, but it's just as relevant for PS3, as it is as reliant on Blu-Ray succeeding as anything else:



Source: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2017527,00.asp



So it begins...

Any guesses on who's next to jump ship and take HD-DVD's hand?


WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN? THE "BAD NEWS" STARTED FOR 'BLU-RAY', MANY MONTHS AGO. ;)
 
Lol I've been here the whole time.

Although I just relized that Universal has been HD-DVD exclusive this whole time, apparently. For some reason I wasn't thinking they were exclusive until now.

Oh well...
 
Once the PS3 gains a foothold on the market, they'll support Blu-Ray. The public will be able to buy Blu-Ray players as part of the PS3 for much less than what they're retailing now. The studios will start to take note.
 
I say the studio's that double dib dvd's to hell will eventually be releasing on all formats to be the ultimate double dipper :o
 
Avalanche said:
Once the PS3 gains a foothold on the market, they'll support Blu-Ray. The public will be able to buy Blu-Ray players as part of the PS3 for much less than what they're retailing now. The studios will start to take note.

We still have no idea how the general public will accept the price of the PS3 & won't until launch week. I think it would depend on how the PS3s sell & what people are saying about it & how many people that decides they are not even buying it right away for any studio to really care about how popular the ps3 is. Right now it is hard to say. The price will be a big factor of the PS3 here & as of now it is hurting it
 
Avalanche said:
Once the PS3 gains a foothold on the market, they'll support Blu-Ray. The public will be able to buy Blu-Ray players as part of the PS3 for much less than what they're retailing now. The studios will start to take note.

The 'PS3' will NOT gain a foothold on the market. Not now, not ever.
 
SouLeSS said:
The 'PS3' will NOT gain a foothold on the market. Not now, not ever.
I think the PS3 will gain a foothold. Anyone who thinks the PS3 is doomed to fail is being a little naive. Sony still has a lot of public support.

And with the growth of the PS3, Blu-Ray will become more more prominent. Their entire reason for its inclusion.
 
It's way too early to say that Blu-Ray will "become more prominent".
 
No one was saying that. I said it would become more prominent once the PS3 launches. By that I mean more prominent than it is right now, not more prominent than HD-DVD.
 
Addendum said:
It's way too early to say that Blu-Ray will "become more prominent".

Flip side of that coin is that it is WAY too early to say that Blu-Ray won't do **** or get a foothold.
 
This HD-DVD war is such crap. Why'd they have to start this?
 
Because Toshiba wants to keep their hold on the home video market, and Panasonic, Sony, and the other members of the BDA want to take their place with a higher-capacity format. It's the same thing that happened with Betamax and VHS. One company has their version of a product that customers want, and the other company has their own. It will ultimately be in the customers' hands to decide which format becomes the standard.
 
WhatsHisFace said:
This HD-DVD war is such crap. Why'd they have to start this?



BLAME IT ON 'SONY'. 'HD-DVD' WAS JUST A NATURAL, AFFORDABLE PROGRESSION OF 'DVD'.......NOTHING WRONG WITH INTRODUCING THAT AT ALL, 10 YEARS AFTER THE ADVENT OF 'DVD'.
'SONY' IS JUST DOING IT'S USUAL "DEVELOP AN IMPRACTICAL, EXPENSIVE, OVERBLOWN NEW FORMAT, AND ATTEMPT TO RAM IT DOWN THE THROATS OF CONSUMERS". :down
 
Avalanche said:


YEAH, I SAW THIS YESTERDAY.......AND HERE'S MY TAKE:


HD-DVD:

* Universal
* Paramount
* Warner Bros.

Blu-ray:

* Sony Pictures -- DOESN'T COUNT (FOR OBVIOUS REASONS)
* Paramount -- RIDING THE FENCE
* Warner Bros. -- DITTO
* MGM -- NOT AS BIG OF A FORCE IN THE INDUSTRY, AS BEFORE
* Disney -- WITHOUT NEWLY-ACQUIRED 'PIXAR', WE'RE WAITING 10+ YEARS FOR THEM TO RELEASE MUCH OF ANYTHING FROM THEIR "VAULT"
* 20th Century Fox


THE REALLY IMPORTANT THING TO WATCH IS, WHO WILL JUMP OFF THE FENCE, AND TO WHICH SIDE. :o
 
LongDong said:
Flip side of that coin is that it is WAY too early to say that Blu-Ray won't do **** or get a foothold.
I'm skeptical of both formats
 
Addendum said:
I'm skeptical of both formats
Me too. I won't be investing in either until there is a clear winner and the prices come down.
 
I'm siding with Blu-Ray but it's largely because of convinience. Why support HD-DVD when I'm already going to have a Blu-Ray player through my PS3?

That's actually the whole strategy behind including Blu-Ray with PS3. People will support Blu-Ray by default if they already have the means to watch Blu-Ray movies in their homes.
 
Timstuff said:
I'm siding with Blu-Ray but it's largely because of convinience. Why support HD-DVD when I'm already going to have a Blu-Ray player through my PS3?

That's actually the whole strategy behind including Blu-Ray with PS3. People will support Blu-Ray by default if they already have the means to watch Blu-Ray movies in their homes.

Thats true, if MS had packed a HD-DVD player in the 360, they would have had a bigger chance of winning.

good move by sony.
 
Timstuff said:
I'm siding with Blu-Ray but it's largely because of convinience. Why support HD-DVD when I'm already going to have a Blu-Ray player through my PS3?

That's actually the whole strategy behind including Blu-Ray with PS3. People will support Blu-Ray by default if they already have the means to watch Blu-Ray movies in their homes.


BUT IT'S (LARGELY) AN UNNECESSARY FORMAT, AT THIS POINT. 'SONY' WAS SMART WITH THE 'PS2', BUT THIS IS GUERILLA TACTICS......NOT CONSUMER-FRIENDLY AT ALL. AND, IF THE EARLY 'BLU-RAY' PLAYERS ARE A SH**TY AS THE EARLY DVD PLAYERS IN THE 'PS2' (AND VERY WELL COULD BE), THEN IT'S ALL FOR NAUGHT.
 
THWIP* said:
BLAME IT ON 'SONY'. 'HD-DVD' WAS JUST A NATURAL, AFFORDABLE PROGRESSION OF 'DVD'.......NOTHING WRONG WITH INTRODUCING THAT AT ALL, 10 YEARS AFTER THE ADVENT OF 'DVD'.
'SONY' IS JUST DOING IT'S USUAL "DEVELOP AN IMPRACTICAL, EXPENSIVE, OVERBLOWN NEW FORMAT, AND ATTEMPT TO RAM IT DOWN THE THROATS OF CONSUMERS". :down

That is what everyone said about the CD.

I just wish whichever one is to be the "chosen one" that it would be universal and not so divided. HD-DVD is the next progressive step, but if the chance we can have something better I would like to take it, however not like this.
 
Topdawg said:
Thats true, if MS had packed a HD-DVD player in the 360, they would have had a bigger chance of winning.

good move by sony.
But Blu-Ray makes the PS3 expensive, which in turn causes Sony to lose some support.

Microsoft's position won't help HD-DVD win the war, but it means their standalone 360 is reasonably priced. Less than half the price of the PS3 in the UK.
 
LongDong said:
That is what everyone said about the CD.

I just wish whichever one is to be the "chosen one" that it would be universal and not so divided. HD-DVD is the next progressive step, but if the chance we can have something better I would like to take it, however not like this.


WHO'S "EVERYBODY"? I DON'T RECALL MANY PEOPLE BEING UPSET ABOUT THE CD FORMAT, WHEN IT CAME OUT. IT WAS A BRAND NEW TECHNOLOGY, MORE RELIABLE, AND REASONABLY PRICED COMPARED TO TAPES. :huh:
 

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