Speculation on the Starheart/Parallax/Ion equation...

[BrianWilly]

Oh, the week I was too broken and reeling from Amazons Attack to be able to see straight?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Probably. I guess. Look, I don't know what goes on in your personal life.

 

[Tropico]

 

[MagicPrime]

It takes Willpower to use Courage to Overcome great fear? Maybe?

What are the color associations that we know presently?

 

[Tropico]

No, you eat a lot of Booberry cereal to become blue and have courage that overrides your yellow fear.

 

[BrianWilly]

See, that's not exactly what it says.

"Since creation burst forth in the Big Bang, little blue beings have maintained order."
If anything, that's suggesting that blue is the color of order...

"By the Guardians' grand design, blue and yellow made green, the color of courage and the most important qualification in the Guardians' Green Lantern Corps."
...And that green is the color of courage. Willpower/courage? And even then, the entire passage could just be metaphorical.

Sounds like a bunch of badly-informed, badly-written baloney to me. First of all it's Countdown so it's automatically subject to debate; who knows how much Johns even inputs into it? Until it appears in the story proper, I'm not giving it that much weight.

 

[Tropico]

You're wrong. Corp and I are right. Plus, Boo Berries!!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Johns' own color system is a bunch of badly-written baloney, too, so I don't think the Countdown passage is really that bad. By comparison, I mean. Everything GL outside of the Green Lantern Corps comic is bad to varying degrees at the moment.

 

[BrianWilly]

It sounds wildly poetic at best and intentionally vague at worst. Blue something plus yellow fear equals green courage? So what's blue? Is it order? Order and fear equals courage? What? And then a single panel later they say yellow is the color of evil? Johns can have stupid ideas, but he's not usually sloppy.

You're wrong. Corp and I are right. Plus, Boo Berries!!

What blue really represents.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Johns' whole color system has been sloppy. Green represents willpower? For real? That's a pretty ****ing arbitrary trait for a fundamental power of the universe to represent.

 

[BrianWilly]

You can't really blame Johns for all of that. Willpower empowers the Green Lantern rings, and the resulting constructs are green; it's really only a teeny tiny step to take from this the notion that green represents willpower.

Fundamental powers of the universe can be anything they want to be, frankly. If green represented "envy," it'd still be pretty strange considering that green only represents envy for a single aspect of a single culture containing a marginal portion of the single planet in midst of the entire universe. Green could also very well represent "peace" and it'd be just as logical in the grand scheme of the cosmos. Colors can represent whatever the mind wants them to represent.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Willpower works in conjunction with the GL rings, and the source of the GLs' power is ultimately the Guardians, since they empowered the CPB, and the Guardians' energy just happened to be green. I thought that explanation was fine. Now we're getting into a whole bunch of overly complex nonsense where one color represents one thing, another represents something else, and when you mix them together you wind up with a color that represents some utterly random, unassociated thing. I see this just leading to problems.

 

[BrianWilly]

I don't mind it as long as it's consistent. The "Battle of the colors" isn't a new thing with the GL Corps; we had Sinestro and his yellow ring from way back, the yellow impurity, the anti-matter Qwardians, Alex Nero, even the Star Sapphire as a color-based rogue. There should be no problem with outlandish cosmic forces (Speed Force, Phoenix Force, Nova Force, Odinforce, Godwave, whateverthepoo the Endless are, etc etc) so long as they're consistent and supply a consistent, understandable justification. The minute that you start getting inconsistent and breaking your own rules that you set yourself is the minute to start worrying, which is why I twitch in nervous agitation at those Countdown panels.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I just don't see a need to complicate the GLs' powers with all this emotional basis stuff. The GL Corps used to be sci fi fun in its purest form. Now we're going to get nebulous connections between energy and emotion and all this metaphysical mumbo jumbo that would be best left to a fantasy comic, in my opinion. But whatever, Gibbons tends to ignore everything but the Parallax retcon in GLC, and that's all I read.

 

[fifthfiend]

Among the many flaws here, as far as I understand it yellow is only a primary color when dealing with like pigments and things. With projected light such as the power rings create, colors are created out of a mix of red blue and green. So mixing blue energy and yellow energy to get green energy just wouldn't work.

 

[Miss Webb]

Yeah, let's take this to its illogical conclusion, based on color HOOEY...

considering color perception is personal and cultural. But whatever, on to the nonsense.

RED LANTERNS giant scorpion KLAWW (anger)
WHITE LANTERNS - giant butterfly BREEZEE (calm)
VIOLET LANTERNS - giant rabbit BUMPP (lust)
BLUE LANTERNS - giant snake HYSSS (cold reasoning)
BLACK LANTERNS - giant worm MUDD (gloom)
YELLOW LANTERNS - giant chicken CAWCAW (fear)
GREEN LANTERNS - giant frog KRIBBIT (desire)
ORANGE LANTERNS - giant gazelle BOUNCII (happy)
BROWN LANTERNS - giant roach KRUNNCH (indifference)


DIG IT! Each emotional color has its monster that has to be embodied...each group has a leader that possesses each thing.

Next up...

Plaid, polka-dot and checkerboard lanterns...

 

[trustyside-kick]

Am I the only one who seems to like the idea of the creature entities representing different colors of the spectrum and different emotions/traits?

I think it enrichens the GL Mythos instead of the average person looking at them and calling them the Space Police.

Perhaps there should be some entity revealed in GLC that is the black one, and then perhaps it dies, releasing the others. Because if you add all the colors, doesn't it make black? Dunno where else you would go with this or how they would do this exactly, just it came to mind when I read the above post and I saw "Black Lanterns".

 

[MagicPrime]

Yeah, let's take this to its illogical conclusion, based on color HOOEY...

considering color perception is personal and cultural. But whatever, on to the nonsense.

RED LANTERNS giant scorpion KLAWW (anger)
WHITE LANTERNS - giant butterfly BREEZEE (calm)
VIOLET LANTERNS - giant rabbit BUMPP (lust)
BLUE LANTERNS - giant snake HYSSS (cold reasoning)
BLACK LANTERNS - giant worm MUDD (gloom)
YELLOW LANTERNS - giant chicken CAWCAW (fear)
GREEN LANTERNS - giant frog KRIBBIT (desire)
ORANGE LANTERNS - giant gazelle BOUNCII (happy)
BROWN LANTERNS - giant roach KRUNNCH (indifference)


DIG IT! Each emotional color has its monster that has to be embodied...each group has a leader that possesses each thing.

Next up...

Plaid, polka-dot and checkerboard lanterns...

...and then they combine to make the UltraZord!


To the poster above:

Black is the absence of all color
White is the combination of all color
and I do believe there were "Black Lanterns" pre-crisis.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Am I the only one who seems to like the idea of the creature entities representing different colors of the spectrum and different emotions/traits?

I think it enrichens the GL Mythos instead of the average person looking at them and calling them the Space Police.

Perhaps there should be some entity revealed in GLC that is the black one, and then perhaps it dies, releasing the others. Because if you add all the colors, doesn't it make black? Dunno where else you would go with this or how they would do this exactly, just it came to mind when I read the above post and I saw "Black Lanterns".

If you put all the colors together as pigments, they make black. If you put them together as light, they make white. So you'd need a big, ancient, white mega-beast to die and release a bunch of different colored zords--er, I mean emotion/trait beasts.

 

[MagicPrime]

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[Miss Webb]

Colors in light = additive
Colors in pigment = subtractive

In theory all pigments mix to make black but actually make a muddy brown color because no pigments are pure enough. This is a particular problem for yellow if only black is added.

Yup, light in a prism...make it PRISMLLAX!! A combo blob showing every emotion!

Yellow magenta Cyan - light rays
Yellow red blue - pigments

The SILVER LANTERNS = Octupus (greed) GRABBITT
The GOLDEN LANTERNS = Eagle (envy) CLUSTERR

Kyle will wear an all white uni with green gloves and boots that look like socks.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZZv5Z2Iz_s[/YT]

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All you need in the Hype's YT tags is the video's identifier--in this case, tZZv5Z2Iz_s. Like so:

 

[Tropico]

Perhaps there should be some entity revealed in GLC that is the black one, and then perhaps it dies, releasing the others.

It's always the black one to die first.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

lolz@racism

 

[Assassin]

This thread was ruined in the first post when miss webb kept saying an idea, an dthen followed it by a "maybe" or a "Hmmm",