Spider-man 3 scrpt not yet complete!

[Jubba]

Ok I'm starting this off by saying I don't really care if you don't believe me and I won't take the time to get into the debate over how this can be true and why I don't give you names or specific proof about how I know this. If I gave that away, my source would be royally screwed. I'm not a noob and i don't go around making things up - if you talked with me one on one hopefully you know a bit about me and that I wouldn't do that. I also came on here at one point to say that they have a nearly unlimited budget because Sony wants Sam to do whatever he needs for this movie. Anyway, beleive me or not, here goes.

The script for Spider-man 3 is not yet complete (or at least wasn't until very very recently). Basically, Sam is undecided on how to have the movie end. He and his brother have been taking weekend trips to some cottage to discuss how best to end the movie and they have called re-shoots in order to finally wrap things up. It seems that when they finished shooting the first time around, they hadn't even shot the final scenes and that part of the re-shoots aren't technically re-shoots since they didn't know what they were doing before for the end.

This may not be huge news, but I think that it's really interesting. Maybe Sam has been reading fan ideas on the Net to see what people want to have in the movie or maybe he just needed the time on his own to take things in a new direction. Maybe he wants to film things in a new way so that he doesn't follow the notorius Q&As to the letter...to give fans an even bigger surprise. Maybe keep some people alive and kill others off that weren't supposed to end certain ways. Either way, I think it's a good thing that he's taking his time.

I wanted to share that with all of you. If you search, you'll find a thread I made about asking a Sony contact for a piece of information a while back since I don't have regular communication with this person. It's 100% legit but I'm sure most people won't believe this. Let the flames begin, but let's please try to have a normal discussion about what Sam could have been rethinking for the end of this movie.

-Jubba out

 

[Tangled Web]

Good. I hope they give Venom like 10 seconds of screen time if any.

 

[Jubba]

Good. I hope they give Venom like 10 seconds of screen time if any.

Hah, not a Venom fan, eh? I'm assuming that they'd be inclined to go the other way...maybe give him more time or keep him alive for another movie...or maybe give him less time if they want him in #4...or maybe throw in the Lizard? Who knows!? Raimi throw us a bone!!

 

[BxB402]

Ok I'm starting this off by saying I don't really care if you don't believe me and I won't take the time to get into the debate over how this can be true and why I don't give you names or specific proof about how I know this. If I gave that away, my source would be royally screwed. I'm not a noob and i don't go around making things up - if you talked with me one on one hopefully you know a bit about me and that I wouldn't do that. I also came on here at one point to say that they have a nearly unlimited budget because Sony wants Sam to do whatever he needs for this movie. Anyway, beleive me or not, here goes.

The script for Spider-man 3 is not yet complete (or at least wasn't until very very recently). Basically, Sam is undecided on how to have the movie end. He and his brother have been taking weekend trips to some cottage to discuss how best to end the movie and they have called re-shoots in order to finally wrap things up. It seems that when they finished shooting the first time around, they hadn't even shot the final scenes and that part of the re-shoots aren't technically re-shoots since they didn't know what they were doing before for the end.

This may not be huge news, but I think that it's really interesting. Maybe Sam has been reading fan ideas on the Net to see what people want to have in the movie or maybe he just needed the time on his own to take things in a new direction. Maybe he wants to film things in a new way so that he doesn't follow the notorius Q&As to the letter...to give fans an even bigger surprise. Maybe keep some people alive and kill others off that weren't supposed to end certain ways. Either way, I think it's a good thing that he's taking his time.

I wanted to share that with all of you. If you search, you'll find a thread I made about asking a Sony contact for a piece of information a while back since I don't have regular communication with this person. It's 100% legit but I'm sure most people won't believe this. Let the flames begin, but let's please try to have a normal discussion about what Sam could have been rethinking for the end of this movie.

-Jubba out

I would hope Sam would be reading what fans really want. A movie is only really sucessful because of an equal amount of what the fans really want and how the director presents it. If a director does a project of this magnatude without caring what the fans reall want, then they should go **** themselves. **shoots a death look towards Uwe Boll**

 

[Tangled Web]

No, I'm cool with Venom, I just don't think he should steal the show. It should be more Harry/Peter dynamics. Harry vs. Peter could be Obi Wan/Anikan epic. Having Venom in there would be like throwing Darth Maul in there for no reason.

Plus, how the hell do you top Venom? Put him in part 4.

 

[Idiotic Idiot06]

Plus, how the hell do you top Venom? Put him in part 4.

Aunt May + Carnage > Venom

 

[Fran]

No, I'm cool with Venom, I just don't think he should steal the show. It should be more Harry/Peter dynamics. Harry vs. Peter could be Obi Wan/Anikan epic. Having Venom in there would be like throwing Darth Maul in there for no reason.

Plus, how the hell do you top Venom? Put him in part 4.

I agree completely.

I've been saying for a while that Venom deserves a whole movie to himself to torment Peter.

 

[BxB402]

No, I'm cool with Venom, I just don't think he should steal the show. It should be more Harry/Peter dynamics. Harry vs. Peter could be Obi Wan/Anikan epic. Having Venom in there would be like throwing Darth Maul in there for no reason.

Plus, how the hell do you top Venom? Put him in part 4.

I agree to a point, but that's what comes with great responsibility. Harry is his best freind, and new enemy. but Pete has bigger fish to fry. that's what comes with that. You have your personal straigth to the heart things to deal with, and sometimes the greater challenges come out of the blue and you have to kind of put the personal stuff off to the side to deal with the things that effect everyone. Combined with the inner struggle. that makes it worse. then that inner struggle turns into a completely new obstical to overcome combined with the previous. Which is what makes this movie the darkest and Venom the one that eventually becomes the obstical that will be the toughest to handle, because aside from personal and impersonal conflicts with other people, Venom is an enemy that once was a part of him. Deep. Dark. Stuff.

 

[vanillacyke]

No, I'm cool with Venom, I just don't think he should steal the show. It should be more Harry/Peter dynamics. Harry vs. Peter could be Obi Wan/Anikan epic. Having Venom in there would be like throwing Darth Maul in there for no reason.

Yeah cause when someone says Spider-Man movie I think I wanna see Star Wars . Yeah lets see something thats allready been done in a movie rather than something a little fresh.

 

[Morg]

*waves bye to BxB402* seeya in a week

 

[SouLeSS]

Good. I hope they give Venom like 10 seconds of screen time if any.

You know that "HOLY **** ITS VENOM" sequence at the end of the COmic Con trailer?

I hope thats at the very end of the movie, like, after the credits as an afterthought (XMen 3/ Constantine style) and thats ALL there is of Venom in the whole movie.

Intro Eddie in it, have him even be 'taken in' by the symbioate, but have him go off into a sewer or something once it starts to get on him and never return.

 

[jay74]

Honestly there isn't really much to complain about in this thread. As I see it most people seem to be happy with the direction of the movie as it is/was. Regardless if the script was finished or not, Raimi seems intent on giving us an incredible movie. Whether or not Venom is in the movie for 40 minutes or 40 seconds I'm sure most will be happy with the outcome. The first two movies have opened up tons of possibilities. The Green Goblin, Dr. Octopus, The lizard, Venom, Sandman. Maybe Norman Osborn returns? Who knows? As long as he meets the deadline then I could care less what he's doing now. I was happy with the first two so I'm sure the third will be just as good.

 

[HughJackFan420]

Ok I'm starting this off by saying I don't really care if you don't believe me and I won't take the time to get into the debate over how this can be true and why I don't give you names or specific proof about how I know this. If I gave that away, my source would be royally screwed. I'm not a noob and i don't go around making things up - if you talked with me one on one hopefully you know a bit about me and that I wouldn't do that. I also came on here at one point to say that they have a nearly unlimited budget because Sony wants Sam to do whatever he needs for this movie. Anyway, beleive me or not, here goes.

The script for Spider-man 3 is not yet complete (or at least wasn't until very very recently). Basically, Sam is undecided on how to have the movie end. He and his brother have been taking weekend trips to some cottage to discuss how best to end the movie and they have called re-shoots in order to finally wrap things up. It seems that when they finished shooting the first time around, they hadn't even shot the final scenes and that part of the re-shoots aren't technically re-shoots since they didn't know what they were doing before for the end.

This may not be huge news, but I think that it's really interesting. Maybe Sam has been reading fan ideas on the Net to see what people want to have in the movie or maybe he just needed the time on his own to take things in a new direction. Maybe he wants to film things in a new way so that he doesn't follow the notorius Q&As to the letter...to give fans an even bigger surprise. Maybe keep some people alive and kill others off that weren't supposed to end certain ways. Either way, I think it's a good thing that he's taking his time.

I wanted to share that with all of you. If you search, you'll find a thread I made about asking a Sony contact for a piece of information a while back since I don't have regular communication with this person. It's 100% legit but I'm sure most people won't believe this. Let the flames begin, but let's please try to have a normal discussion about what Sam could have been rethinking for the end of this movie.


-Jubba out

um yeah didn't they say they needed to put more action in it before wrapping things up???

 

[Jubba]

um yeah didn't they say they needed to put more action in it before wrapping things up???

if you're basing that on the so-called "test-screenings" rumour that said audiences wanted more action, then no
this doesn't necessarily mean they are adding more action...could be adding more drama, more scares, more romance...less action...who knows!?!

 

[Avangarde]

The whole concept of finishing the movie with the intro of Venom would indicate a 4th Spiderman, I mean you cant just say "ok this is Venom, this is the end of the movie, thanks for coming". I don't know what has been confirmed, but if this is the case we will see Spiderman 4. I'd say they are working on how the 4th movie may work as well as finishing the 3rd.

 

[Katsuro]

You know that "HOLY **** ITS VENOM" sequence at the end of the COmic Con trailer?

I hope thats at the very end of the movie, like, after the credits as an afterthought (XMen 3/ Constantine style) and thats ALL there is of Venom in the whole movie.

Intro Eddie in it, have him even be 'taken in' by the symbioate, but have him go off into a sewer or something once it starts to get on him and never return.

I think a lot of people (myself included) would feel very, VERY cheated at something like that. I've waited years to see what Venom would look like on screen, and to only get a half second flash and be forced to wait several more years would be the biggest F-U to fans in the world.

I have nothing against giving him a small part here only to expand on him in a sequel, but it has to be more than a half second jump-at-the-camera scene.

 

[ultimatefan]

If this is true, well, it´s not unheard of directors having doubts about the end of the movie or trying to push it as late as possible and even shoot multiple ends to dodge scoopers.

 

[Mephistopheles]

Well, I don't necessarily believe you. But I didn't believe the Q&A was legit either when came out......

 

[The_Guyver]

You know that "HOLY **** ITS VENOM" sequence at the end of the COmic Con trailer?

I hope thats at the very end of the movie, like, after the credits as an afterthought (XMen 3/ Constantine style) and thats ALL there is of Venom in the whole movie.

Intro Eddie in it, have him even be 'taken in' by the symbioate, but have him go off into a sewer or something once it starts to get on him and never return.

I'd be down with the movie ending with Eddie Brock in church being taken over by the symbiote & completely morphing into Venom, but I think the audience deserves a good look at him after all the years of waiting, not just a quick glimpse.

If S-M 3 did end there, it would mean the entire 4th film would be devoted to Spidey vs Venom. So yeah, I'm definitely down with that!

 

[Idiotic Idiot06]

In several interviews already Sam Raimi has talked about Venom being one of the main villains, and he made a few speeches on 'you have to give the fans what they want even if you don't want it,' and we want Venom so we're getting Venom.

 

[daveswb]

Funny, but you hear about this kind of stuff all the time. Usually on smaller projects though.

I think most likely what happened is they had an ending they were unhappy with, and decided to retune it a bit. I could be a 100 different posibilities, but at least this helps explain the long production schedule a bit.

This should be a very interesting movie.

 

[WTFimVENOM]

I'd be down with the movie ending with Eddie Brock in church being taken over by the symbiote & completely morphing into Venom, but I think the audience deserves a good look at him after all the years of waiting, not just a quick glimpse.

If S-M 3 did end there, it would mean the entire 4th film would be devoted to Spidey vs Venom. So yeah, I'm definitely down with that!

I would really like a movie just for Venom, but I don't wanna take the chance that Topher or Tobey die somehow before SM4 is done lol
I just can't take that chance, I need to see some Venom action

 

[Avangarde]

I would really like a movie just for Venom, but I don't wanna take the chance that Topher or Tobey die somehow before SM4 is done lol
I just can't take that chance, I need to see some Venom action

Yeah the thing is Venom would need some development in the Spiderman movies before we ever see him in his own movie.

 

[slmon]

Yeah, I'd want to see Tobey as Spider-man - not his eventual replacement - deal with Venom, be it in 3 or 3 and 4. (And I personally like Topher as Eddie, as he resembles Tobey somewhat). Also, at what point did Avi Arad insist that Venom be a part of 3? Because - and no dis to Sandman or his fans - but at that point, Sam should've revamped his plans to make Venom the main villain and saved Sandman for a sequel. Venom, like him or not (and I do) is way too big to co-star as a villain. If any villain is a headliner, it's him. I do kind of fear a clusterf**k kind of effect the way things are now, and therefore I'd be ok with Venom doing a cameo in 3 if he were to return to headline in 4.

 

[The Ones]

Yeah, I'd want to see Tobey as Spider-man - not his eventual replacement - deal with Venom, be it in 3 or 3 and 4. (And I personally like Topher as Eddie, as he resembles Tobey somewhat). Also, at what point did Avi Arad insist that Venom be a part of 3? Because - and no dis to Sandman or his fans - but at that point, Sam should've revamped his plans to make Venom the main villain and saved Sandman for a sequel. Venom, like him or not (and I do) is way too big to co-star as a villain. If any villain is a headliner, it's him. I do kind of fear a clusterf**k kind of effect the way things are now, and therefore I'd be ok with Venom doing a cameo in 3 if he were to return to headline in 4.

Venom needs alot of development. Eddies hate with Peter, the Symbiote joining with Peter and making him evil. And thats going to take up atleast 3/4 of the movie. Let alone the love triangle and Peter's life to sort out. During which time the audience will be craving for some Hero vs Villain action in the middle. Sandman will give them that and then a humongous showdown at the end when Venom comes along