Spider-Man: Reign

[ShadowBoxing]

Worth checking out it seems.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I never bring the Ezekiel stuff up, but I hate the Spider-Totem garbage, it just ruins the essence of the character IMO. And no, The Question, dont reply, im not in the modd for a 2 page debate.

How did it ruin the essence of the character? I just saw it as an alternate way of viewing Spider-Man's powers. Kind of like when the Speed Force was introduced to the Flash legacy. Spider-Man got his powers through the radioactive spider mishap, but once he had the powers he became one of a long line of avatars of the spider according to a certain sect of people like Morlun and Ezekiel. Technically, the way it was outlined in the comics, all superheroes with powers directly based on those of an animal are part of that same avatar deal.

 

[Darthphere]

How did it ruin the essence of the character? I just saw it as an alternate way of viewing Spider-Man's powers. Kind of like when the Speed Force was introduced to the Flash legacy. Spider-Man got his powers through the radioactive spider mishap, but once he had the powers he became one of a long line of avatars of the spider according to a certain sect of people like Morlun and Ezekiel. Technically, the way it was outlined in the comics, all superheroes with powers directly based on those of an animal are part of that same avatar deal.

No, the thing is they made it out as if Peter parker was chosen, he was meant to be Spider-Man. It totally ruins the randomness of the incident and the essence of him being an everyman and it could happen to anyone, because it cant, you have to be chosen by a deity.

 

[The Question]

How did it ruin the essence of the character? I just saw it as an alternate way of viewing Spider-Man's powers. Kind of like when the Speed Force was introduced to the Flash legacy. Spider-Man got his powers through the radioactive spider mishap, but once he had the powers he became one of a long line of avatars of the spider according to a certain sect of people like Morlun and Ezekiel. Technically, the way it was outlined in the comics, all superheroes with powers directly based on those of an animal are part of that same avatar deal.

Basically. Although, I'm not too big of a Speed Force fan. I don't dislike it on principal, but I simply don't like the extra powers he gets like stealing soeed or making Speed Force constructs.

No, the thing is they made it out as if Peter parker was chosen, he was meant to be Spider-Man. It totally ruins the randomness of the incident and the essence of him being an everyman and it could happen to anyone, because it cant, you have to be chosen by a deity.

I never noticed the randomness aspect until it was brought up as a debate against the Totem thing.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

No, the thing is they made it out as if Peter parker was chosen, he was meant to be Spider-Man. It totally ruins the randomness of the incident and the essence of him being an everyman and it could happen to anyone, because it cant, you have to be chosen by a deity.

I think it could be interpreted in different ways. As I recall, Peter was only judged a more suitable spider avatar than Ezekiel, who basically stole his powers. That leaves the random aspect of Peter's "birth" intact. Peter happened to get his powers and, after reviewing how he and Ezekiel used them, he was judged to have used them better. Which, really, makes sense given that Ezekiel used his to make money while Peter used his to save lives.

 

[The Question]

Although, I never understood how he used them to maker money. Did he intimindate the compitition by beating people up or something?

 

[Darthphere]

Whatever, as I told Question im not having a 2 page debate about this.


SHUT THE **** UP!

 

[The Question]

....dude.

 

[Spider-Gamer]

Can't we all just get along?

 

[The Question]

Aparantly not.

 

[Darthphere]

All of you:


SHUT THE **** UP!!!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Quit your whining, you crybaby super-b****.

 

[Darthphere]

Quit your whining, you crybaby super-b****.

LOL! Nice one.

 

[Harlekin]

Meh, maybe. The art would need getting used to.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, given your poor taste, Cho-lover.

 

[Darthphere]

Daaaaaaaamn!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh yes. I went there.

 

[Darthphere]

I dont hate Cho, I like him more than I hate him but that She-Hulk pic is atrocious.

 

[Harlekin]

Damn you Corpulent! I'll get my revenge one of these days, when you least expect it!



Either way, I skimmed the interview, and I don't think it'll appeal to me much.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Promises, promises.

 

[hippy fascist]

So when is this coming out then?

 

[The Cleric]

yes!!!!!!!!! another spidey book!!!!!!!

 

[BrianWilly]

I read through that entire article and I'm still not sure what this is supposed to be about. Ah well, I'll probably skip it; pain in a story is nigh-necessary, but nothing but pain in a story just makes it too emo. And if being too emo was all that was needed to make a good story, then Evangelion should, uh, be good.

I liked the magical Spider-Man stories when it felt subtle and ambiguous...it was a theory that might hold weight and also might not. Maybe he was chosen, but also maybe the spiritual aspect of his powers came after the science took hold. We didn't know, which made it all the more interesting. And maybe Ezekiel was just a big crackpot who made it all up. And what's more, because it was ambiguous and mysterious, it didn't need to interfere with his scientific origins at all. Right up until the end and the battle against Ezekiel, it felt subtle and mysterious and, yes, without evidence.

That's the point of magic, that it didn't need to be proven. It could exist and be mysterious and that's all it needed to be.

And then the Other came along. Suddenly we've got spider monsters and crazy eye-popping Peter giving birth to himself [again] and magical diseases and the whatnot and new powers with spider whatever...and it was too much. It was too overt, it crossed the line from mystical to MYSTICAL!!!... I didn't like the fact that all of a sudden it wasn't subtle anymore, that all of a sudden it was proven...that just makes the whole story less magical and more mundane. It wasn't just parallel to his scientific origin, now it was just interfering with it.

 

[Phoney Bone]

The original Spider-Man WAS pretty emo before emo.

 

[Not Jake]

I have to say, Darthphere, Corp really kicked your ass with the whole JMS Spidey argument.