World Spider-man TAS cons

[weezerspider]

That Cap show looks great. They should resurect the idea.

As for the 90's Spidey show, I liked it, but it was a little too kiddy. For having soo much restrictions, it was very well done. I know they couldn't help the restrictions, but they could of had more episodes with GG and other classic villains and less with Kingpin and Morbius. They also could have been a little more faithful to the comics. There was some weird stuff in that show. Overall, it was a good show.

 

[venom892]

I loved this show and it got me into the wonderful world of comics.However As much as I love it sometimes it was a little out there and the no punching thing was horrible.Also it wasn't as Good as Batman:TAS.

 

[3dman27]

That Cap show looks great. They should resurect the idea.

mai i avean AMEN to that?

 

[ragingdemon155]

The show was great, but even as a kid while I was watching the episodes I had some major problems with it. The biggest problem the show faced was the ridiculous amount of censorship that it had to deal with. This seriously had to be one of the most watered down cartoons in history as far as censorship goes. There wasn't any mention of the word "kill", "die" or "destroy"...or anything of the sought for that matter. Spider-man wasn't allowed to punch or physically attack anything which led to really boring fights involving him just webbing everything. Then of coarse the whole "every cop owns a laser gun" problem. Now, while I don't agree with it...I could understand why Carnage had to be watered down even though the concept came off really stupid (Absorbing souls) but all the other restrictions were just ridiculous.

I might have had some small problems with the story here and there, but the censorship is what really stopped the sure from being a classic. Still a great show though, just nowhere near the league of a true classic such as Batman:TAS.

 

[TheCaptain22555]

The end did suck. It was kind of a bummer, but I think it happened that way because they thought the show was going to go on for one last season.

 

[3dman27]

The show was great, but even as a kid while I was watching the episodes I had some major problems with it. The biggest problem the show faced was the ridiculous amount of censorship that it had to deal with. This seriously had to be one of the most watered down cartoons in history as far as censorship goes. There wasn't any mention of the word "kill", "die" or "destroy"...or anything of the sought for that matter. Spider-man wasn't allowed to punch or physically attack anything which led to really boring fights involving him just webbing everything. Then of coarse the whole "every cop owns a laser gun" problem. Now, while I don't agree with it...I could understand why Carnage had to be watered down even though the concept came off really stupid (Absorbing souls) but all the other restrictions were just ridiculous.

I might have had some small problems with the story here and there, but the censorship is what really stopped the sure from being a classic. Still a great show though, just nowhere near the league of a true classic such as Batman:TAS.

the did use the term destroy since they weren't allowed to say kill they used the term "destroy spider-man" instead of"kill spider-man

 

[Shin-Natsume]

i love this show. and here are some thing sou might not know...

since im from austria, i am used to the german version. wich is good. all voices (except mary jane and of course the hobgoblin, but our hobgoblin voice is pretty badass too) are way better in the german version. also, the vocal censoreship was gone. so now, enemies could KILL people, the punisher wants to kill people because his family was killed.

jameson wants spider-man dead, heck, carnage even mentions that mordo "saved venoms ass" when calling them back.

of course, carnage likes killing and morbius was drinking blood over here. that didnt help the visual censoreship though.

on the other hand, we got a few incosistent voice actors. kingpoin has a different actor in the insidious six episodes of season two, and alicia silvermane has the same voiceactress like silver sable.

the scorpion and the green goblin had the same voice actors somehow. that was funny when they were both in one episode.

i lvoe this show. almost everything of it. morbius and kingpin were a little overused, yes, and the absence of sandman doesnt make this better, but those were the nineties and be glad we have this show, because liek the MTV show did, the new spidey show will suck too. its too kiddie already...

 

[Kevin Roegele]

I find the 2003 show superior in every respect.

 

[Artistsean]

The thing that really bugs me, looking back, is how much Spider-Man talked or thought out everything.
I don't mean over thinking stuff or obsessing.
I mean everything he did or everything that happened Spider-Man had to mention, like the children watching wouldn't have gotten it if he didn't.
Stuff like,
"Oh no, Doctor Octopus' arms are crushing the life out of me."
When that exact thing was happening so we really didn't need to hear that.
I also didn't care for Hobgoblin coming first before Green Goblin, and the lack of Green Goblin.
(and yes I missed Sand Man, but they did use Rhino and a few others alot.)
I totally understand the laser things too, GI Joe used lasers right? So did X-Men.

But for the most part that was a great series, the animation could have been better. But I think for its time the animation was as good as it could hve gotten. Its will be much better now.
This show was on par with the X-Men animated series. In my opinion it was better than the 2003 show. The animation wasn't so stiff, the character's seemed better. I never really watched 2003 though.


An example brought up a while back, the X-Men's guest appearence was great.
Spider-Man goes to see Charles Xavier because Peter is mutating into some Spider-Monster. He begs Charles to cure him.
Peter assumes that what he is going through is what mutants go through, almost like all mutations are the same. Not really understanding what a "Mutant" is.
When Charles turns Spider-Man away Peter warns that whatever he becomes is his fault for not helping him.

I just loved that part because it showed that Peter didn't know everything and that he didn't understand Mutants, not that he was hateful of them he just wasn't sure what being a Mutant was.
Layers in that episode.

 

[Gotham22]

I wish they would release this in seasons/box set form already. Samething with the the 90s X-Men cartoon show.

 

[Dr.Dude]

I love the first season and for the most part, the second season was almost as good.

The trouble is when the show got so obnoxiously muddled in those season-long dimension hopping story lines. The characters were always portrayed perfectly all the way through, especially Peter himself but those inter-dimensional stories just weren't meant for Spidey.

I did like the last episode, though. Even though it had the same problem, it pulled it off simply because of the intimacy of that ending.

 

[Mr. Socko]

As I was saying before, I use to like this show but haven't seen it in a long time. I'm bored so I just found a website with several episodes, so I think I'm going to start watch season one for now. Doubt it will be as good as I recall(which isn't much) but here goes...

 

[Milu]

I never understood why this show was more heavily censored than Batman: The Animated Series, especially when BTAS was around the same time.

 

[Redwoods Wolf]

The Burton Bat-films had a great deal to do with it.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I wish they would release this in seasons/box set form already. Samething with the the 90s X-Men cartoon show.

Isn't this show available to buy offline? bout 2 years ago, I remember seeing it available online, but I forgot how much it was.

 

[Milu]

Another thing that confused me was how Peter, before the spider bite, still looked jacked.

 

[Abaddon]

I never understood why this show was more heavily censored than Batman: The Animated Series, especially when BTAS was around the same time.

Timm had friends in high places.

 

[DACrowe]

The show was brilliant I say, BRILLIANT!

Okay nostolgia may be blinding me because the show suffered from

1) Way too MUCH CENSORSHIP
2) Too many laser guns
3) A ridiculously fast pace
4) No punching
5) WAY TOO MUCH lazy stock animation because of the cheap bastards at Fox
6) Season 4 and 5 were a huge drop in quality from the first three seasons (albeit they both had their strong points like 4 had the Black Cat saga and the Return of the Green Goblin and 5 had the Weddinge episode and the Golden Age Heroes arc)
7) A really lame ending.

BUT

I still love this show.

I seriously did watch it again for the first time in a decade last year. And I noticed all the flaws as listed above, which make it rank below the likes of Batman: TAS and Batman Beyond. But I still think it is better than Superman TAS and I enjoyed it more than X-Men TAS (which suffered from many of the same problems) and JL (I know animation fans will kill mem for suggesting such a thing).

The reason being it was such a damn entertaining show. I mean it is still a lot of fun. And now I will show its pros and why it is better than the oftne ridiculously praised 2003 show, which despite a lot less censorship and better animation, was an incredibly weak show in comparison.

1) The voice acting: Christopher Barnes IS Spider-Man. His character model may have been too bulky and his lines bordered on soap opera melodrama, but he was just perfect. He had the wit, the comic timing and the angst and self-pitying constant whining but in a sympathetic way that made him a joy to listen to as he portrayed the character better than any voice actor or screen actor (sorry Tobey) before or since. Then you have other perfect castings like Jennifer Hale as the Black Cat, Hank Azaria as Eddie Brock/Venom, the guy who did the Lizard, Kingpin and of course Zimbistini(sp?) as Doc Ock. All nailed their characters. And the MJ was very good too, albeit a little too airy at times.

2) The show felt like the comics of the '70s and '80s. Yeah it had a rushed feeling and was heavily censored with lame laser guns and mild violence, but the storylines were usually inspired or lifted from those two decades. The long story arcs that could span 5-6 episodes or subplots that lasted the whole season were there. You could feel the comic book joy of this world. The constant gang wars between Kingpin and rivals, the Hobgoblin flying, Harry's dissent into insanity, a better BC (with a weaker origin) than the '90s incarnation of the character of the time, it captures a specif time in the comics very well.

3) The characters actually developed. Peter Parker grew up, he learned lessons. Storylines went whole seasons. They were not just 30 minute stories in and out. Even in the first season they did a 3 parter and then a 2 parter. and the villains felt like their classic selves in those stories. MJ came down to earth, Felicia followed her father, Harry followed his, Norman Osborn lost his soul. Eddie found redemption in a less stupid way like in the comics and onceh e did, he did not come back (thankfully). By the end Peter Parker was married and an adult. Something even Joey Q can't understand (if he pulls that lame clone **** on MJ fanboys will rise up across the interweb). The Peter Parker never learned a damn thing in the MTV show and none of the characters grew at all. In fact usually they killed off theier best villains (Lizard) after botching them to the point where they were no longer recognizable (Lizard again and I'll add Kraven and Electro to that). Which leads into my last point....

4) The '90s show got Peter Parker. He whined, he pined, he joked and he lost. He lost a lot. He thought MJ was dead in the "Gwen storyline," he lost his best friend to madness (albeit there was a happy ending there) and he suffered. But he also remembered what Uncle Ben said and worried about his aunt and tried to be the good kid. Peter in the MTV show slept with that made up hcick on their first date without finishing his relationship woes with MJ first and let her walk in on it and also at the same time let anyone simply die who annoyed him and Aunt May was never even mentioned.

I mean the show just got the essence of the comics and had great voice acting and style. It just had a lot of hte aforementioned problems.

But since this thread scrutinized on this show's flaws I decided to give it some much needed support.

P.S. Ed Asner as JJJ kicked ass. Indeed.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

They later released Spider-Man for the PS1 (aswell as PC, N64 and DC) and that was supposed to be a finish to the seires that never happened. I don't think they mentioned how Venom and Carnage came back. They just sort of did. And then there was Spider-Man 2: Enter Electro and they used this one to do Electro and Sandman justice. They were going to finish off the bit with Sandman and the Beetle in a third one but it was canceled due to the Spider-Man movie game.