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Comics Spider-Man: With Great Power

Kirk Langstrom

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If you trip through the history of Spider-Man, there are a few areas that are…slightly less trod than others. Once such area is going to get some attention starting in January with Spider-Man: With Great Power, a five issue miniseries by David Lapham and Tony Harris.

As editor Warren Simons explained, the story fills in a gap that was there, but yet, not well explored, that is, Spider-Man as the media sensation.

“David came up with this idea and pitched it to me a few years back, and I thought it was absolutely tremendous,” Simons said. “If you flip through Amazing Fantasy #15, you see all these great newspaper headlines: SPIDERMAN WINS SHOWBIZ AWARD, SPIDERMAN PLAYS TO PACKED HOUSE, and WHO IS SPIDERMAN?” As Stan wrote in the same issue, ‘Now anybody with the intelligence of a seven year old knows that if a man appeared on TV who seemed to be more spider than human, he’d be an overnight sensation!’ I mean, this is great stuff, and there’s a lot of fertile ground to explore there. How crazy was Peter’s life at this point in time? Living with Ben and May, going to high school, adjusting to these remarkable powers and becoming a national celebrity at the same time? The kid’s got a full plate. So it’s a great idea on that front. And I also loved the idea because I was interested in seeing what David had to say about Peter’s life before Uncle Ben’s death. We all know the story; we all know that the crushing blow that was the ‘Great Responsibility’ part of the equation. So I thought it would be a lot of fun to take a look at Peter’s life when it was just ‘With Great Power…’ After the bite, but before Ben’s death. And David and Tony have really been doing some tremendous work here.”

The miniseries will fall under Marvel’s Marvel Knights imprint, which a perfect home for the project, given its tone, Simons said. “I think it’s a perfect fit for the Knights imprint, as it fits, tonally with JMS and Esad’s Silver Surfer: Requiem, and Carmine and Zeb’s Daredevil: Battlin’ Jack Murdock.”

For Lapham, the roots of the project go back to simply wanting to work with Simons again.

“After doing Daredevil vs. Punisher, Warren and I were looking for something else to do - I wanted to work on a big character, but I in a way where I wasn’t tied to what was going on in twenty other books - I’m not so much a ‘continuity’ guy,” the writer said. “That stuff just hurts my head. So my thought was, ‘who’s bigger and cooler than Spider Man?’ As Warren said, there’s this panel in Amazing Fantasy #15, on page 9 right between Spidey letting the thief run by him and right before Uncle Ben gets killed. One panel where there’s a bunch of headlines telling us about how famous Spider Man’s become doing the wrestling and Tonight Show circuit. The caption reads, ‘In the days that follow, Spider Man becomes the sensation of the Nation.’ It’s a very unspecified period of time. Weeks? Months? We don’t know. There’s a lot of room for play in that panel. I read it as: this is where Peter Parker lives life in the fast lane. This is where he gets a big head. Gets a taste of money and girls for the first time. This is the salad days. These are the Lapham days with Spider Man—the Stray Bullets days.

“‘Course then the needles and hookers started coming out and they had to reign me back in, but still that’s where the really fun stuff comes in. This is Peter before ‘With great power comes great responsibility’ ruled his life. It wasn’t just Uncle Ben getting capped. That was the event that brought it all together, that stopped his destructive path, but Spidey was a rock star. He had that taste of the sweet life, baby. And you know what? If Pete hadn’t let that damn bugler run by him, maybe Uncle Ben’d still be alive and maybe, just maybe, Pete’d still be out there livin’ it up with Mic and Kieth and Snoop Dog or whomever. And then maybe I’d’ve gotten my hookers and needles.

“Gee thanks a lot Uncle Ben….”
 
Joking aside, Lapham stated that his temptation, the fact that Peter allowed himself to become a media darling is a part of the character’s appeal to him that will never fade.

“One of the core things about Peter Parker and Spider Man and why he was so revolutionary was that he was so flawed, so…normal," Lapham said. "He’s just the dorky kid, the insecure kid. And yeah, he’s like a 'Nuclear Genius' or somesuch, but come on, in our heads aren’t we all? One of the little touches I loved in those beginning Ditko comics was how he would always be flirting with Betty. As Spider-Man he was a full on 'smart ass' in the best possible way, and he let it come through as Peter. Peter Parker wasn’t like Clark Kent. He’s never pretending. Putting on the mask just lets him pull down some inhibitions, but it’s all Peter."

In Lapham's view, part of that "smart ass" displayed by Spider-Man is due to his time as a sensation. "In life it’s never just one thing," the writer said. "Peter Parker doesn’t just let a thief run by him and the thief kill Ben and that’s it! Those are the touchstones. But by themselves they don’t stick. You have to go down that dark road a little. Learn some life lessons--especially, a suppressed kid like Peter. If he doesn’t get a taste, then he’d either quickly fall back to the 'dark side' or he’d have to be a really uptight kid and not the freewheelin’ Spidey we all know and love.

"What gets the ball rolling in the miniseries is getting bit by the spider and fighting Crusher Hogan. He gets approached by promoter Monty Caabash, and ends up becoming quite a famous star in the sordid world of professional wrestling! We’ve got the mob, we’ve got a 'Mrs. Robinson' for Pete, we’ve got giant monsters, and we’ve got plenty of teen angst, bad decisions, and young love. Yeah…Pete gets a really big head and, like the song says, 'You can’t tell (him) nothin’.'

"Flash is there. Liz Allen is there as young Peter’s love interest. Monty Caabash is just an expansion on the promoter character briefly seen at the beginning. Of course when Spidey hits the headlines J. Jonah rears his ugly yellow-teeth-stained head. Of course, this is the early days of superheroes. You couldn’t just find them on every corner like you can now. But there was another foursome making waves in the big city at about the same time…"

But, while the idea of Spider-Man living it up is fun, Lapham reminds us - eventually Uncle Ben does die, and "Comes Great Responsibility" gets added on to the phrase, which them becomes Peter's mantra. "I think it’s so important because he wants to go down that dark road," Lapham said. "I shouldn’t even say 'dark' because I don’t mean that in a bad way. Being a rock star isn’t evil, but Peter’s different. He has these powers. He has a higher calling. He has the values May and Ben instilled to live up to. He can’t go down that path. But he wants to. Don’t we all? So this one simple phrase gets at the core of it. It constantly centers him in a life that can get very complicated."

On the art side of things, Simons said Harris was a natural -and easy - pick. "I’ve been working with Tony for a few years now,” the Editor said. “He did a lot of covers for me when I was editing Marvel Knights 4, and when I was working as the assistant editor on Amazing Spider-Man. He’s been doing some absolutely beautiful work on the issues, as the pages show, and I think that the fans are really in for a treat with this one.”

Lapham agreed. “From its humble beginnings ('Let’s find a setting for Lapham to tell his twisted Lapham stories'), we realized this could be an important story in Spider-Man history. So we needed a big artist. Someone who was popular, could draw like a comic god, and could tell a story. I guess he called Tony, or Tony called him and Warren gave him the pitch and he was in - and I was dancing about the room. Tony’s put so much into this beyond just executing a story. He’s schematics for Peter’s web shooters, designs for Spidey’s costume evolution. He’s given Peter and his world a unique and timeless look that I thing will really suck the reader in to the story."
 
The promoter's name is Max something. He appeared in the 30th anniversary Web of Spider-Man issue. Just sayin'...

As for the mini... looks interesting, but Byrne's Chapter One has left a sour taste in my mouth for anything that goes back and tries to create new continuity or change old continuity. This doesn't apply to this mini so much, but in general I wish Marvel could accept where the character is now and look towards the future instead of messing with his past and continuity so much. *sigh*
 
Hmm sounds interesting, Ill probably look into this :up:

As for the mini... looks interesting, but Byrne's Chapter One has left a sour taste in my mouth for anything that goes back and tries to create new continuity or change old continuity. This doesn't apply to this mini so much, but in general I wish Marvel could accept where the character is now and look towards the future instead of messing with his past and continuity so much. *sigh*
Untold Tales did a good job of putting great stories into past continuity without screwing things up. Like Untold Tales, this mini is basically gonna fill in gaps rather than change or update anything.
 
I think I'll look into this too. Tony Harris and David Lapham on Spidey! Could be good stuff :)
 
This team alone would make me buy a book with a character I DID NOT care about. Witht hem working on Spidey, and in a NON-OMD/BND event...I'm sold!:woot:
 
No. Read the thread.

Actually, it's more like an expansion of Amazing Fantasy #15 just as Batman: Year One was an expansion of Batman's origin--which in itself means that it would be a retelling of Spidey's origin. I just find it interesting that after One More Day, we're getting another version of Spidey's origins. Perhaps this indicates that maybe Spidey's history is being rewritten in the wake of One More Day?
 
Actually, it's more like an expansion of Amazing Fantasy #15 just as Batman: Year One was an expansion of Batman's origin--which in itself means that it would be a retelling of Spidey's origin. I just find it interesting that after One More Day, we're getting another version of Spidey's origins. Perhaps this indicates that maybe Spidey's history is being rewritten in the wake of One More Day?

Ugh...I hope not.:csad:
 
It's not a retelling of his origin, it's a look at the life of Peter Parker when he was a media sensation... a time between the spider-bite and Uncle Ben getting shot.

The origin will be the same, just a look at this particular point in his life that has never been touched upon before.

Similarly to Amazing Fantasy #16, 17 & 18 by Busiek in the 90's... :word: :word: :word:

:yay:
 
I think this good be really good. Amazing Fantasy #16-18 was done taking place between ASM #15 and ASM #1, and that was unbelievably good. I hope this is just as amazing.
 
It's not a retelling of his origin, it's a look at the life of Peter Parker when he was a media sensation... a time between the spider-bite and Uncle Ben getting shot.

The origin will be the same, just a look at this particular point in his life that has never been touched upon before.

Similarly to Amazing Fantasy #16, 17 & 18 by Busiek in the 90's... :word: :word: :word:

:yay:

Sure it's a retelling of his origin. Whenever you expand upon a story, it IS a retelling of that story. Yes, events shown in Amazing Fantasy #15 remain intact because those are the basics of Spider-Man's origin. But the time where Spidey becomes a celebrity between being bitten by the radioactive spider and his Uncle Ben being shot IS a part of his origin, and an essential one at that because it's during that time in where he let the burglar get away. Sure, we don't know every little detail what happened during the time he was a media sensation, but we know that he was. And since "With Great Power" is an expansion of events that showed what happened "between the panels" of Amazing Fantasy #15, it's going to have to show scenes as shown in Amazing Fantasy #15, including Peter being bitten by the spider and his Uncle's murder, in order to but the story into context.
 
Sure it's a retelling of his origin. Whenever you expand upon a story, it IS a retelling of that story. Yes, events shown in Amazing Fantasy #15 remain intact because those are the basics of Spider-Man's origin. But the time where Spidey becomes a celebrity between being bitten by the radioactive spider and his Uncle Ben being shot IS a part of his origin, and an essential one at that because it's during that time in where he let the burglar get away. Sure, we don't know every little detail what happened during the time he was a media sensation, but we know that he was. And since "With Great Power" is an expansion of events that showed what happened "between the panels" of Amazing Fantasy #15, it's going to have to show scenes as shown in Amazing Fantasy #15, including Peter being bitten by the spider and his Uncle's murder, in order to but the story into context.

Well, I won't disagree with you on those points, but I don't believe that they will change the origin, as some people seem to expect based on whatever the outcome of OMD will be.

:huh: :huh: :huh:

:yay:
 
seems interesting... as long as we don't get more magic totems shoved our way...
 
It's not a retelling of his origin, it's a look at the life of Peter Parker when he was a media sensation... a time between the spider-bite and Uncle Ben getting shot.

The origin will be the same, just a look at this particular point in his life that has never been touched upon before.

Similarly to Amazing Fantasy #16, 17 & 18 by Busiek in the 90's... :word: :word: :word:

:yay:

Aloha,
As you know, I've always raved about Untold Tales and how much depth it added to the Mythos. AF #16-18 were also done very well although I wasn't thrilled about the art. I think someone at Marvel has come up with a way of getting the Old School money that has defected the Modern Age Spidey. Untold Tales of the earliest days of Spidey has consistently worked.For those of us concerned with Spidey continuity, it's like manna from heaven.:yay: Looking forward to this Mythos. Wonder if Untold Tales is going to come back as a new series?
Spidey rules
 
I will be buying every Issue of this mini series and thanks for posting that interview, Web-Head! Those pages look fantastic. :up:
 
I've loved Tony's work with Ex Machina so far but I've never read any of Dave's stuff. Regardless, I'm picking this one up.
 

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