The Amazing Spider-Man Spider-Powers

[Spider-Who?]

How do you want Spider-Man's powers to be handled in the reboot?

Specifically, how strong do you want him to be? How high/far should he be able to jump? How fast/flexible should he be?

I remember seeing an interview with Raimi about how they decided to tone down his abilities ie: not making him jump as high as he can in the comics. In fact, I don't really recall seeing him really JUMP without aid of his webs...

In the comics, his strength varies, but the rule of thumb is that he can lift between 8-10 tons; enough to lift a tank over his head. He's also mentioned in the comics as being able to bench press "more than ANY TWO x-men combined". Thats a pretty big boast - something i would like to see.

When you think about it, in each movie, we really only see ONE instance of his strength in each film, and i find something interesting about it:

SM1 - holds hanging tram car with webs.
SM2 - stops train with webbing
SM3 - holds wall of building from falling

in each instance, its more about his endurance in keeping something from falling/moving, and 2 of the 3 times, his webs are an important factor in accomplishing it. He isn't in motion at all - he's just hanging/standing there, which to me, isn't as impressive has (for the heck of it), picking up a car and throwing it at Rhino.

I also wouldn't mind seeing the (some what cliched) situation where he's buried underneath tons of rubble and has to will himself to muster the strength to lift it off of him.

We also never really see his spider-like balance and flexibility. I want to believe his movements are powered by a radioactive spider. I want to see him bend and twist in damn near contortionist ways when fighting, wall crawling and swinging. He is Spider-Man after all, make him move like one!

So, what do you guys think?

 

[Oscorp]

I think Raimi handled it well tbh

 

[Spider-Who?]

whenever i read "tbh", i always automatically think of someone blowing raspberries, lol.

 

[Oscorp]

whenever i read "tbh", i always automatically think of someone blowing raspberries, lol.

lol t:

 

[socool]

I don't want him nearly as strong. In the comics he is said to lift 10 tons. Thats waaaaay too strong. I say 2 tons max.

Everything else can remain constant. Just don't make him super strong.

 

[Spider-Who?]

I don't want him nearly as strong. In the comics he is said to lift 10 tons. Thats waaaaay too strong. I say 2 tons max.

Everything else can remain constant. Just don't make him super strong.

1) vote on the poll!

2) what makes you want his powers to be so much less than in the comics?

 

[Ken-Kaniff]

I say he should be quite strong, as in Raimi's movies. He handled that pretty well.

However, Spider-Man being able to lift 10 tons is really exagerating to me! A regular car has around 1 ton! Imagine him being able to lift 10 cars lmao at the same time! Way too exagerating, even for comic books. Not even Venom should be THAT strong imo!

whenever i read "tbh", i always automatically think of someone blowing raspberries, lol.

Good thing you don't think of someone blowing something else!

 

[Spider-Who?]

to each their own

bare in mind, this isn't just about strength. Spidey's got other powers, too!

 

[thebatsam]

Good thread topic
Think Raimi had the right scope for strength, he should be liifting like 2 tons not 10 like the comics state (In the animated series he says something like only being able to lift a vw beetle when he's not got the symbiote on him)
Other powers, I think Raimi underplayed his speed i.e. ground speed....for example,in SM1 at the parade he's running on the ground when he's having a bit of fisticuffs with GG and he seems pretty slow. However, in the Spectacular Spider-man cartoon he's running alongside a speeding car or something....that should be more like it

 

[Spider-Who?]

with all the generic fanboy golden rule of following source material, i'm curious why people are wanting to ignore it on this one.

thebatsam - i agree with ya regarding speed - while i don't really want to see him keeping pace with a car in the new flick, i DO hope they speed up his movements like in Spectacular Spider-Man.

 

[thebatsam]

The main reason being that 10 tons is ridiculous, even for a superhero like Spider-man
Technically, he should have the proportional strength of a spider right? which is 8-10 times his weight which is barely a ton
As someone else said, it's like lifting 10 cars at the same time...you just do't get that image in your head when you think of Spider-man....you'd think of him tipping over a car or push it around but not of him launching one at someone

Not really specifically on topic, but I would like Spidey to use the walls and stuff to his advantage in fight scenes like running across the walls or jumping from the floor to the ceiling , we didn't see enough of that in the Raimi triology.....that's what so great about Spider-man, he's smart so he adapts how he fights according to each specific environment and scraps his way through

 

[Spider-Who?]

The main reason being that 10 tons is ridiculous, even for a superhero like Spider-man
Technically, he should have the proportional strength of a spider right? which is 8-10 times his weight which is barely a ton

Well, the stats vary depending on the spider, but a quick google search says that spiders can carry over 170 times their own body weight. So lets say Pete is 170, he could lift 28,900 pounds; which is around 15 tons.

As someone else said, it's like lifting 10 cars at the same time...you just do't get that image in your head when you think of Spider-man....you'd think of him tipping over a car or push it around but not of him launching one at someone

We must not be reading the same Spidey comics because I've seen him lift several tons of rubble off his back, toss a car clear across the street, etc.

Not really specifically on topic, but I would like Spidey to use the walls and stuff to his advantage in fight scenes like running across the walls or jumping from the floor to the ceiling , we didn't see enough of that in the Raimi triology.....that's what so great about Spider-man, he's smart so he adapts how he fights according to each specific environment and scraps his way through

No, this is totally on topic, and this is something I agree with. I really want to see him use his ability to stick to walls much more. Hardly used at all in the raimi flicks.

 

[chaseter]

We saw Spidey running on the walls and being on the ceiling in each film of Raimi's trilogy. Spider-Man was on a wall or ceiling in each film.

 

[Spider-Who?]

i know this'll probably sound ******ed, but he wasn't doing anything but going from point a to point b. i think it'd be cool to have some character moments in there - similiar to what we had in SM3 when he first discovered he had the black suit on. More stuff like that.

 

[thebatsam]

Spider-Who? - You're right actually I do recall him throwing a few cars around now and quite recently in ASM570 (I think) he holds up the wall of a 4 floor building

 

[Spider-Who?]

yeah, he doesn't always bust out the "big guns" in the comics, as he's more of an acrobatic style fighter, so i can see where you're coming from.

 

[chaseter]

i know this'll probably sound ******ed, but he wasn't doing anything but going from point a to point b. i think it'd be cool to have some character moments in there - similiar to what we had in SM3 when he first discovered he had the black suit on. More stuff like that.

That has to be CGI and CGI is expensive and then you run the risk of it looking fake.

 

[Alex The Great]

I think he should be pretty strong. But occasionally be able to lift really heavy thing. Like that comic with him trapped under debris and he uses all his strength and mind power to lift it. It'd be cool to see that on screen

 

[Spider-Who?]

That has to be CGI and CGI is expensive and then you run the risk of it looking fake.

i disagree. The majority of that scene in SM3 could have been done with practical effects - which they should have done - but they didn't and it looked terrible. Most wall crawling stuff can (and was) done with practical effects and camera tricks. Couple that with smart use of wire work, it can be done.

 

[Alex The Great]

The Wall Crawling bits where Spider-Man is either just sitting on the wall or crawling slowly. But when he's busting his ass to get up there, that's CGI

 

[Spider-Boy]

90's series is all I can think of when I visualize this movie.
(While Peter had the symbiote) "I can lift this fire truck?! Well with the old costume I had trouble lifting a Volkswagen."

 

[chaseter]

i disagree. The majority of that scene in SM3 could have been done with practical effects - which they should have done - but they didn't and it looked terrible. Most wall crawling stuff can (and was) done with practical effects and camera tricks. Couple that with smart use of wire work, it can be done.

That was almost all CGI. The only part that were practical were when he wasn't moving or jumping.

 

[A&W]

I think Raimi actually kind of got Spider-Man's powers and fighting style down perfect.

 

[Ultimate Doom]

I voted the 1st one...but raimi did it pretty well now that i think about it

 

[Invader34]

I want to see the super powered Spidey. In the Raimi films there was nothing about the way Spidey moved or did things that made him feel extraordinary IMO. Most of the moves he pulls off made you feel like he was just really athletic but not super powered. I want it to be shown that the muscles in Pete's body are so strong that almost like Superman, Pete has to make a conscious effort to control his every movement in and out of costume. Obviously Pete isn't as strong as Supes, but he should be so strong as to suggest that if he's not carefull he would pull a door off its henges while just trying to walk into a room. Or while trying to jump a water puddle in the street he has to be sure to not launch himself 20 ft in the air. I think this kind of display of strength would also lead to the necessity of Spidey's more comic book style acrobatics, suggesting that with this kind of power Spidey trying to get somewhere in a hurry, or avoiding harm should look like nothing any normal human being could ever do.