Stan Lee wants ANOTHER Hulk reboot?

[JackMercy]

Whedon may be moving on to other things, but del Toro would be fantastic!

Um, is anyone keeping up? Del Toro is attached to a Hulk project...the TV show!

 

[JackMercy]

You're kidding right?

What he said.

The Incredible Hulk (1978-82 + three TV movies) was very successful...

 

[JackMercy]

Not sure how many more Banner movies have to "meh" their way through the box office for that to be "proven".

Any version of the Hulk would be a nice change. So far he's not really appeared in any of the live action incarnations. "Banner and his mute unimportant green friend" are all we have so far. Hopefully Whedon will change that. The reviews certainly seem impressed with the Hulk as much or more than any of the other characters. That's an indication the Hulk was never the problem.

You maka no sense.

Bruce Banner is as much a part of the Hulk storyline as Peter Parker is to Spider-Man, which is why I find it interesting that media outlets are simply saying "Mark Ruffalo plays the Hulk" rather than Ruffalo plays "Bruce Banner and his aggressive alter-ego, the Hulk." In that sense, they're supporting what you're saying by ignoring Banner as a man of importance.

But really...the Hulk hasn't appeared in his own movies? What was I watching in 2003 and 2008? In 2003, I saw an intense, deeply psychological portrayal of a large, green "monster" who despite not having the ability to speak, conveyed so much about how he was feeling through his eyes and actions...and even had quiet moments of contemplation. You can argue that the film was a mess, yes, but the Hulk had character, and yes, a more interesting one than that film's Banner. In 2008, the problem wasn't so much Banner, but rather Marvel deciding to take things the completely opposite direction from Ang Lee's Freudian-drama. Again, the Hulk has plenty of character, but it was everything else around him that was kind of frenetic and goofy; I chalk it up to Norton and Marvel butting heads during the production.

Just because your favorite version of the Hulk hasn't appeared, doesn't mean it's not a version of the Hulk.

And just because you haven't liked the versions of the Hulk being presented, doesn't mean there weren't interesting psychologies being presented there, no matter the overall quality/success of the films themselves.

The "problem" of making the Hulk character work on screen is an interesting one to me, but more interesting is how Marvel keeps attempting it from different angles, even when they aren't successful.

Fact is, Marvel has enough trouble trying to make the concept work without the Hulk speaking...although early buzz says that maybe Whedon will change that.

Maybe the Hulk is a problem when having to carry his own "super-heroic" feature...ever thought of that one?

 

[JeetKuneDo]

Finally what?

Finally we may be getting a version of Hulk with him and Banner instead of "Banner and....whatshisname that smashes stuff and quickly goes away so we can get back to more Banner"

Not even in the BO numbers?

TIH certainly was slow in BO numbers despite being a different style of Banner movie.

Tell me how 2 movies compare to 5 seasons with 83 episodes.

Same mediocre audience numbers....same concentration on the Banner character and neglect of the Hulk character.

Or while Hulk being green. Maybe the reason is the colour. It's another constant.

That's where your mind would go to look for a better way to present the Hulk? So you think a movie that still concentrated solely on Banner would work if they changed the Hulk's skin color?

Well...that's interesting. You don't work at a studio right? I mean...I don't mind if you're just an internet comic fan...but please don't say you are in charge of making these decisions.

What he said.

The Incredible Hulk (1978-82 + three TV movies) was very successful...

One appearance in the top 30 ratings and zero appearances in the top 25 in 5 seasons during a time when there were only 3 networks and no cable competition is "very successful"? One can only wonder if there are enough superlatives to describe the shows that hovered in the top 10 during that time!

You maka no sense.

Bruce Banner is as much a part of the Hulk storyline as Peter Parker is to Spider-Man, which is why I find it interesting that media outlets are simply saying "Mark Ruffalo plays the Hulk" rather than Ruffalo plays "Bruce Banner and his aggressive alter-ego, the Hulk." In that sense, they're supporting what you're saying by ignoring Banner as a man of importance.

They are probably as sick of Banner as the public is. That actually illustrates what I'm talking about. People are interested in the Hulk...not Banner.

Interesting how a suggestion to let the Hulk have an equal share of the narrative is seen as wanting to take Banner out of the movie completely. I realize he needs to be there with the Hulk. But so far he's gotten all the development while the Hulk has gotten none. Not quite an equitable arrangement. We could actually have an entire movie devoted to just the Hulk and he would still lag far behind Banner in total time spent developing the character.

Just because your favorite version of the Hulk hasn't appeared, doesn't mean it's not a version of the Hulk.

Is there a mute version of the Hulk in the comics who disappears 90% of the time so the narrative can concentrate on the Banner character? I don't remember reading that one. Sometimes Banner didn't even appear for many issues.

And just because you haven't liked the versions of the Hulk being presented, doesn't mean there weren't interesting psychologies being presented there, no matter the overall quality/success of the films themselves.

I think the disinterest by the general movie-watching public proves that more than my opinion.

The "problem" of making the Hulk character work on screen is an interesting one to me, but more interesting is how Marvel keeps attempting it from different angles, even when they aren't successful.

Fact is, Marvel has enough trouble trying to make the concept work without the Hulk speaking...although early buzz says that maybe Whedon will change that.

Maybe the Hulk is a problem when having to carry his own "super-heroic" feature...ever thought of that one?

Not sure why the Hulk is the one character that will somehow create "problems" by having the simple ability to speak. Let's have Batman go mute and disappear from the narrative for most of the time (That means no Bruce Wayne either since they are the same character) in his next movie and then claim "Batman can't carry his own feature" when the public yawns.

I don't buy that the Hulk can't carry a movie until they actually try it and it fails. We can't say one way or another until it's tried.

 

[El Payaso]

That's where your mind would go to look for a better way to present the Hulk?

Absolutely not. It's just another unsusbtantiated theory to explain the Hulk movies' results. It's funny to check that your reaction to unsubtantiated theories is so negative, being a producer of unsubtantiated theories yourself.

Well...that's interesting. You don't work at a studio right? I mean...I don't mind if you're just an internet comic fan...but please don't say you are in charge of making these decisions.

Oh don't worry, you may want to give a look to Avengers and check what is actually happening with the Hulk and Banner.