Picard Star Trek: Picard - General Discussion Thread

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Used to tell from the brow ridge, although that seems to have vanished again? Not sure what the facial distinction is now?

It makes sense to think that some romulans have ridges, where others do not; it's not as if all Klingons look alike - their ridges vary quite a bit.

I would prefer the show to have Romulans with ridges though; it just makes it easier to distinguish them between Vulcans.

 

[RockSP]

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Used to tell from the brow ridge, although that seems to have vanished again? Not sure what the facial distinction is now?
These are apparently all Romulans. Are the ears that distinguishable different from Vulcan's as you say?

Well the Romulans shown here clearly have ridges, they're just more subtle than in past designs.

 

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Used to tell from the brow ridge, although that seems to have vanished again? Not sure what the facial distinction is now?
These are apparently all Romulans. Are the ears that distinguishable different from Vulcan's as you say?

Well the Romulans shown here clearly have ridges, they're just more subtle than in past designs.

What about all the other ones then? Those are Romulans too.
Different "tribe"?

I would prefer the show to have Romulans with ridges though; it just makes it easier to distinguish them between Vulcans.

Oh I thought you were saying you could tell Romulan from Vulcan just from the ears.

I think she’ll be a Romulan.,,,, the ears shout Romulan to me. More curved, less pointy.

 

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Not sure what these are supposed to be for Nickelodeon-Trek? obviously for kids, and really cute, yet message delivered heavy handed level awful.
Being pitched as a "prequel" to Picard? Hope people recognize Picard isn't being steered this way.

Alex Kurtzman stated today that Children of Mars will be the Short episode that serves as the Prequel to Star Trek: Picard

 

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QUOTE="Mondragon,
No idea what it supposed to be showing, but I like it.

A new one of these twitter teasers ^.
this time with Narek (Harry Treadaway) Romulan character.
Not sure what the cube he's holding is? Just symbolic of a Borg cube? Something real?

 

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The episodes being recommended as prep (re)watching:

- Datalore
- Best of Both Worlds, Part 1 & 2
- Family
- I, Borg
- Raven (Star Trek: Voyager

I'm actually surprised "Descent" parts I & II, aren't there.

 

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Oh I thought you were saying you could tell Romulan from Vulcan just from the ears.

Oh no, I think she's Romulan because her ears look different to how Vulcan ones (usually) seem too; hers are more curbed, whereas Vulcans usually seem more pointy, but that could just as easily be put down to genetics like blue/brown eyes.

I hope she's a Romulan. Would be something different.

 

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O I think she's Romulan because her ears look different to how Vulcan ones (usually) seem too; hers are more curbed, whereas Vulcans usually seem more pointy,.

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When was this the case?

FYI I'm fine with them looking the same again, where you can't easily tell just by looking, so it's not a overt physical distinction, but more a cultural difference, expressed (and revealed) through their culture, personality, motives, actions, etc.

 

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When was this the case?

FYI I'm fine with them looking the same again, where you can't easily tell just by looking, so it's not a overt physical distinction, but more a cultural difference, expressed (and revealed) through their culture, personality, motives, actions, etc.

It isn’t a case, as such, it’s just something that I’ve either noticed or something I’ve looked too much into.

If you look at Spock’s ears, or Tuvok’s and compare them to say, Donatra or Nero, I think there’s a distinguishable difference, but that might just be the prosthetics department.

In either case, whilst I don’t mind the Vulcans and Romulans looking the same, I think it helps to have them distinguished; it helps viewers to know too, saving any confusion on what species who is.

TOS Romulans (and those of JJ Trek) has flat foreheads. From what I recall, Romulans met in TNG, DS9, VOY and even ENT had ridges. TOS obviously lacked prosthetics, the Picard series will not.

 

[Batmannerism]

The episodes being recommended as prep (re)watching:

- Datalore
- Best of Both Worlds, Part 1 & 2
- Family
- I, Borg
- Raven (Star Trek: Voyager

I'm actually surprised "Descent" parts I & II, aren't there.

For pure Picard awesomeness nothing beats " Chain of Command " part 1 and 2 and "Tapestry" IMO.

Actually the whole "First Contact" movie ( or at least the Picard bits ) is worth seeing.

 

[Persona]

I love First Contact. Actually my second favorite Star Trek movie after The Wrath of Khan. Yeah, the stuff on Earth is a little weak/cheesy at times, but everything on the Enterprise with Picard, Data, the Borg... chef's kiss.

 

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New TV spot - "Blue- Skies"
Not much new or significant - "I want you to reinstate me fore one mission" - Obviously that falls through, hence his need for the new rogue crew and ship for the series.



Although if you're wondering where you heard that song before, (or should I say B4?) jump to 3:35


and then 1:10

 

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From the latest "We face a powerful enemy" TV spot

Was the face in the painting filled in before?
I assume that's Dahg

Also the latest clips they've un-cg-smoothed Data's face (recognized they went to far), so he looks a bit more naturally aged now, and not like a bee-sting victim.

 

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The episodes being recommended as prep (re)watching:

- Datalore
- Best of Both Worlds, Part 1 & 2
- Family
- I, Borg
- Raven (Star Trek: Voyager

I'm actually surprised "Descent" parts I & II, aren't there.

StarTrek.com's Clip highlights of the recommend catch-up episodes -
WATCH: Catch Up on These Episodes Before Star Trek: Picard

 

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...so, short of Data, Seven, Riker and Deanna, if there were a maximum of five other Trek characters that could appear in ST: Picard (let’s say season 2) who’d be your preferences?

 

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...so, short of Data, Seven, Riker and Deanna, if there were a maximum of five other Trek characters that could appear in ST: Picard (let’s say season 2) who’d be your preferences?

Aside what we've already seen (Data/B4), retired Will, Deanna, Hugh and Seven, plus Le Forge already established in the prequel comic, maybe Worf as commander of his own ship, breaking protocol and at some point coming in to help Picard in this unauthorized mission.
I'd rather the show not become a nostalgia for nostalgia's sake driven check-list of cameos. And is able to actually focus on building the new crew, making them interesting and establishing some strong new direction, dynamic and relationships for Picard.
Hopefully that is what makes it interesting, and why Stewart signed on, and not just about satisfying a past check-list.

 

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Variety- ‘Star Trek: Picard’: Patrick Stewart on Why He Returned to the Final Frontier
Mostly about Stewart's personal life, but some interesting hints about the new show:

“Picard” finds its hero living in near-isolation on a very un-cosmic French vineyard. He is retired and estranged from Starfleet, the interstellar navy to which he devoted most of his life. He’s haunted by a pair of catastrophes, one personal, the other societal — the death of his android colleague Lt. Cmdr. Data (as seen in “Nemesis”) and a refugee crisis spawned by the destruction of the planet Romulus (as seen in Abrams’ “Star Trek”). When those two seemingly disparate strands of his life cross, Picard returns to action, this time without the backing of a Starfleet whose moral center has shifted. ...

“In a way, the world of ‘Next Generation’ had been too perfect and too protected,” he says. “It was the Enterprise. It was a safe world of respect and communication and care and, sometimes, fun.” In “Picard,” the Federation — a union of planets bonded by shared democratic values — has taken an isolationist turn. The new show, Stewart says, “was me responding to the world of Brexit and Trump and feeling, ‘Why hasn’t the Federation changed? Why hasn’t Starfleet changed?’ Maybe they’re not as reliable and trustworthy as we all thought.”

Somewhat upends Roddenbbery's vision of the future, or at least what Starfleet and the Federation of Planets could embody in a future. Curious to see how Picard (and the show) navigate that?

 

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I'd rather the show not become a nostalgia for nostalgia's sake driven check-list of cameos. And is able to actually focus on building the new crew, making them interesting and establishing some strong new direction, dynamic and relationships for Picard.

I too hope it's something new and refreshing, rather than a reason to just bring back all the old characters. That said, a show set post TNG but with Picard at the helm ... there's a certain amount of nostalgia there that's going to play off with the guest appearances and cameos.

It might not be season one, but I'd surprised if we didn't get something from Kate as Janeway (she is, or at least was an admiral), and considering her journey home, in addition to her Federation values, you wonder whether she'd be likely to side with Picard or not.

Throughout Trek there's always been characters I wished had met on-screen; the likes of Worf and B'lanna for example, or Ro Laren and Kira, or even Chakotay/B'lanna and Garak.

Somewhat upends Roddenbbery's vision of the future, or at least what Starfleet and the Federation of Planets could embody in a future. Curious to see how Picard (and the show) navigate that?

Roddenberry's vision has changed over the years already though, DS9 did that when it introduced a war, if it wasn't touched on before. Roddenberry's Trek would never be realistic.

I think it's important also to note that the Federation of TNG/DS9/VOY is different to the Federation of DSC & TOS. I can't remember the exact speech, but Janeway says as much to someone in one of the earlier VOY episodes, something about how the likes of Kirk, Spock and McCoy were a different breed of officer.

It stands to reason that breeds of officer change over time within the Federation - just has officers and the military has adapted and evolved in reality. What I'm truly intrigued by is whether the Picard show and this different Federation ultimately leads into Discovery's Season 3. I'm wondering whether whatever changes the Federation is going through in the Picard series eventually leads either to it's destruction, or it's disassembly, thus when the Discovery ends up in the 32nd Century, and there is no Federation (from what little we know) the initiation of why that is starts with the Picard show.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Roddenberry's vision has changed over the years already though, DS9 did that when it introduced a war, if it wasn't touched on before. Roddenberry's Trek would never be realistic.

It may not be realistic, but it wasn’t in the 1960s either. I think there’s a reason the original and Next Generation have stood the test of time and have remained the most popular Trek in the public consciousness. Hell, even The Orville is refreshing because it keeps that optimistic Roddenberry view of the future. I know the complaint was how do you create drama when everybody gets along, but those shows managed to do it just fine.

I’m not saying Picard needs to keep the world exactly as it was in Next Generation, but I do hope they keep that positive spirit alive otherwise it because generic dark future show #304. What was different for Deep Space Nine in 1993, has become stale and repetitive.

 

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A new one of these twitter teasers ^.
this time with Narek (Harry Treadaway) Romulan character.
Not sure what the cube he's holding is? Just symbolic of a Borg cube? Something real?

QUOTE="Mondragon,
No idea what it supposed to be showing, but I like it.

A new one of these twitter teasers ^.
this time with Narek (Harry Treadaway) Romulan character.
Not sure what the cube he's holding is? Just symbolic of a Borg cube? Something real?

New countdown promo featuring Raffi Musiker:

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[Flash525]

I’m not saying Picard needs to keep the world exactly as it was in Next Generation, but I do hope they keep that positive spirit alive otherwise it because generic dark future show #304. What was different for Deep Space Nine in 1993, has become stale and repetitive.

I suspect the hope and positive spirit will come via Picard’s crew here, and not the Federation.

 

[Dr.]

Now it's officially official.

‘Star Trek: Picard’ Officially Renewed For Season 2 By CBS All Access – Deadline

 

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Now it's officially official.

‘Star Trek: Picard’ Officially Renewed For Season 2 By CBS All Access – Deadline

Awesome! hope it's well earned, and not just hype.

Several new stills- Your First Look at Star Trek: Picard

And several new stills of the main cast- Meet the Characters of Star Trek: Picard

1- Patrick Stewart as Jean-Luc Picard: Retired admiral

2- Michelle Hurd as Raffi Musiker: Former Starfleet intelligence officer

3- Jonathan Del Arco as Hugh (De-Borged

4- Isa Briones as Dahj Young woman who comes to Picard for help

5- Jeri Ryan as Seven of Nine

6- Evan Evagora as Elnor: A Romulan refugee, expert in hand-to-hand combat, fiercely loyal to Picard

7- Alison Pill as Agnes Jurati:A doctor who shares a common goal (interest in Data/Lor?) with Picard

8- Santiago Cabrera as Cristobal "Chris" Rios: The pilot and Captain of the ship " La Sirena", skilled thief and a former Starfleet officer.

9- Harry Treadaway as Narek: A Romulan agent who joins Picard's crew .

 

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