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[Sithborg]

The Doctor is BACK!!!!

 

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[Sithborg]

Can't wait to see them in make up, as some of them have to be an alien of some sort.

 

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[Sithborg]

Oh hell yeah. I am super in now.

 

[Sithborg]

Season 2 greenlit. Would have loved to get their character names.

 

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[Sithborg]

MSN

https://screenrant.com/star-trek-starfleet-academy-jonathan-frakes-hardcore-fans-excited-op-ed/

Frakes dropped a few tidbits about Starfleet Academy. I am curious about the massive set. DS9's Promenade is a lot to live up to.

 

[Pennywise]

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' first look welcomes cadets, Paul Giamatti's alien (exclusive)

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' is in session! EW's exclusive first look reveals a new generation of cadets, Paul Giamatti's alien transformation, and returning 'Trek' veterans.

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[Sithborg]

Is that a ****ing Jem'hadar?!?!!?!?!?!!!!

The students look a little too human, sadly...

 

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[Sithborg]

Okay, the kids are more alien than the promo pics appeared.

Also, going to need some clarification on that one screen about the Fate of Benjamin Sisko....

Also, Star Trek link if Paramount is still an issue.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Honestly, that trailer didn't do it for me. Holly Hunter is playing a captain but she weirdly gives off no real authoritative presence.

I think Star Trek needs a reset from this era (Alex Kurtzman showrunner era). It just feels like its overstayed its welcome. We need new creative blood.

 

[Sithborg]

Honestly, that trailer didn't do it for me. Holly Hunter is playing a captain but she weirdly gives off no real authoritative presence.

I think Star Trek needs a reset from this era (Alex Kurtzman showrunner era). It just feels like its overstayed its welcome. We need new creative blood.

Tawny Newsome is a writer. Sure, not a showrunner, but that new blood has me excited.

 

[DarkKnight88]

I think Star Trek needs a reset from this era (Alex Kurtzman showrunner era). It just feels like its overstayed its welcome. We need new creative blood.

I assume with the Skydance merger, Trek will have a reset again.

Strange New Worlds is ending and this has 2 seasons confirmed but probably won’t continue beyond that with this merger.

 

[misjuevos]

Well it still looks CW. But at least that is more appropriate for a school setting. I just have no faith in these people anymore. I'll just wait for the next set of creators to try and revive Star Trek.

 

[Elayis]

Yeah, I haven't liked anything from this new era of Trek TV. Lower Decks is probably the strongest of the bunch, but it's so reliant on callbacks to TNG that it doesn't stand on it's own, and a lot of the Rick and Morty influence does not mesh well with Trek's traditional wholesomeness.

The rest of the shows are either prequel nonsense, empty nostalgia bait, or kids shows, and none of it has very good writing.

The unfortunate thing is that because of Discovery, Picard and Starfleet Academy, they've also ruined the post-Voyager timeline, so I honestly don't know where they could go from here. What I've wanted for decades is a new standalone and original show set after Nemesis, but it doesn't seem like Kurtzman has any interest in that.

The last Star Trek media I wholeheartedly enjoyed was Enterprise season four, and it doesn't seem like that's going to change anytime soon.

Starfleet Academy in particular seems like the kind of CW-esque plucky teen drama that I have zero interest in. The only mildly interesting elements are Robert Picardo, Paul Giamatti and Holly Hunter, but these shows have wasted good actors before so I'm not particularly excited.

 

[Sithborg]

Not sure how they ruined the roughly 500 years between the end of Picard S3 and when the Burn happens. Now granted, the only project we are looking at that time is Tawny Newsome's sitcom, which based on Lower Decks, you are probably not going to like. And Prodigy is a good show, with solid writing. And really, is wanting a continuing of an extremely, extremely similar status quo not nostalgia in action?

 

[Elayis]

All I can say is that I haven't liked what we've gotten, and the shows seem to actively misunderstand what people liked about Star Trek in the first place. But then I never thought it was a good idea to give Alex Kurtzman and Akiva Goldsman the keys to the franchise.

I guess you're right that there is a good deal of time unaccounted for between Discovery and the time jump, but by that point in the show I'd already stopped watching. I wasn't sure of the exact timeline. (The fact that the incident is called the Burn is still goofy as hell to me)

This is the first I'm hearing of a sitcom, but now having read up on it the fact that Justin Simien's the co-writer is a big nope from me. I didn't like The Office or Parks and Rec, either (which are apparently the tonal inspirations).

Prodigy's a children show, so even if it is good for what it is, that style of storytelling will never appeal to me (just like Clone Wars and Rebels). I didn't know about the Khan podcast series, either. I'm glad that Nicholas Meyer's work will finally see the light of day in some fashion, but it's troubling that the final scripts are by streaming era Trek writers. I'll probably still check it out, though I'm not a fan of audio dramas.

I was interested in Noah Hawley's movie that got cancelled, but after watching Alien: Earth I think we might've dodged a bullet.

I grew up on 90s Trek, so I'll admit to being biased about certain aesthetic and dramatic choices. I don't like how flashy and action oriented the franchise has become, or how even Picard modeled its style on the garish look of the Kelvin films. I want stories that are about philosophical ideas that feature a crew that I enjoy spending time with. I don't want new actors playing legacy characters, which is a big part of why I couldn't get into SNW (that, and the intense theater kid vibes).

The last time I was actually excited for a Star Trek show was when Patrick Stewart announced his return (which feels like a lifetime ago), and it ended up being a disaster. I think at this point I'd be okay with the franchise going dormant again.

 

[old city outlaw]

The unfortunate thing is that because of Discovery, Picard and Starfleet Academy, they've also ruined the post-Voyager timeline, so I honestly don't know where they could go from here.

Hopefully post Secret Hideout someone will make a Trek show set after Picard S3 that has a multi decade time jump like TOS to TNG. I love 90s trek but I feel like a big time jump (50-100 years) would force the writers to not over rely on beloved characters and concepts from that era. They also need to disregard any far future Discovery/Starfleet Academy continuity if they want this new show to have any stakes.

 

[Sithborg]

Hopefully post Secret Hideout someone will make a Trek show set after Picard S3 that has a multi decade time jump like TOS to TNG. I love 90s trek but I feel like a big time jump (50-100 years) would force the writers to not over rely on beloved characters and concepts from that era. They also need to disregard any far future Discovery/Starfleet Academy continuity if they want this new show to have any stakes.

God, this is the whole Sequel Trilogy debate again. The ST does not invalidate the OT, by having a new conflict. And frankly, the biggest thing affecting the universe remains ST 09, and keeping the destruction of Romulus canon, more than anything done in Picard. If Picard had done "irreparable" damage to the status quo, there wouldn't have been as much as a demand for a Legacy series. Also, having such a disaster set 500 years in the future does not mean "there are not stakes" in series set in that rather large period of time.

Not trying to make anyone to like the shows. Don't watch if its not your thing. But it is not "ruining" any potential for new Treks. Just tone down the annoying hyperbole.

 

[old city outlaw]

Just to be clear I'm not some total Kurtzman Trek hater. I enjoy Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks for the most part. I just think quality of writing in a lot of Secret Hideout Trek shows is really sub par.

If Picard had done "irreparable" damage to the status quo, there wouldn't have been as much as a demand for a Legacy series.

I don't think 'Picard had done "irreparable" damage to the status quo'. I just want Trek to progress beyond it's nostalgia for the Berman era and I think a big time jump after the Picard time frame would be the best way to do this. The proposed Legacy series is a perfect example of what I'm advocating against. Half the cast being returning Berman era characters or the children of Berman era characters really just limits the potential feeling of entering a 'bold new era'.

Also, having such a disaster set 500 years in the future does not mean "there are not stakes" in series set in that rather large period of time.

This is a fair point on reflection. You're right that a Federation ending disaster doesn't really affect the stakes of a new show set so many years before it. I just hate the fact that Discovery's massive time jump has made every new post Picard show a de facto prequel.