Star Wars: The Old Republic

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Knights Of The Old Republic will be the one MMO I will gladly pay a subscription fee for as long as its on a console since my PC sucks


http://www.gamegrep.com/news/11696-ea_kotor_mmo_coming_from_bioware_pc_exclusive/

That would be odd though, typically, high-fantasy games like Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights have sold better on the pc but games like Mass Effect and Knights Of The Old Republic have sold better on the consoles. The MMO thing hasn't stopped funcom with Age Of Conan making it for console's also or apparently Blizzard with world of Warcraft: The Molten Core
 
I would prefer it to be both actually. A main single player story, then maybe go online and play in an MMORPG. It could be the chance Lucas Art needs to redeem themselves for the terrible Star Wars MMORPG they did a while back.

I don't think its a good idea. The development team would stretch themselves far too thin. It is one thing to have a few online maps for competitive play...but you're asking they create two different games and put them in one. An MMORPG is a massive endeavor to take up, as is a regular RPG like KOTOR. If a development team tried to do both and make one game, it would inevitably suck, I think. Best case scenario, it would be like Phantasy Star Online where one aspect is really good and the other sucks (in PSO the offline "story mode" blew and the online game was great) or worst case scenario, both would suck.
 
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WHY?!?! Whay cant they make a MMORPG and a console system taht continues from KOTOR2?? Why a stupid MMORPG?!?!
 
They probably think they can make an MMO that's not stupid.
 
If anyone can, its Bioware.

That's what I'm saying. I know that MMOs in practice suck on one level or other, but as a concept, an MMO is an awesome, awesome idea. If a company that is as awesome as these guys, doing what they're awesome at (Star Wars) wants to get into it, I say give them a chance. If they give us another theme park or grind, sure, call it stupid.

But at least listen long enough to see if Bioware will break the mold on the MMO.


so... why am I still waiting?
 
Well the wait is over as to whether or not there will be an announcement. Now we just have to wait for the announcement.
 
What kind of game is this probably gonna be? I haven't really heard or anything. Is it a console or PC game? Does anyone know that much yet? And what's an MMO?
 
The game is in the same series as Knights of the Old Republic, and is a Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game (MMO for short).
 
I hope the console versions are on point like the first game. I cross my fingers for it to be similar to Diablo II - play the story in single player, or take it online with other characters along with intergalatic traveling to other places for side missions or just random fun and surveying like they did for Mass Effect
 
Hmmm sounds like it could be intersting. I never played KOTOR but mostly heard good things. I'll have to check in on this come next Tuesday.
 
Pretty much what we expected. The graphics are far different than what I would have expected though.
 
At least it's not a sequel, though set in the same era.

I'm still not into MMO's so I'm passing on it
 
Looks like they are finally making a Star Wars MMO that doesn't suck, like SWG. BioWare is a proven developer and I think this game will be great.
 
2:11
Scooter: Hey everyone, we are still waiting while people are checking in.
2:11
Scooter: Now the doors are opening.
2:12
Scooter: We just been told no photos or videos. USE IMAGination!
2:15
Scooter: THIS CONNECTION IS NOT VERY GOOD.
2:15
Scooter: Reception sucks here. I have no idea how well this will work.
2:18
Scooter: HOLY SMOKES
2:18
Scooter: I finally have internet!
2:18
Scooter: SW themeQ!
2:18
Scooter: Montage of movie clips
2:18
Scooter: DR Ray on screen talking about Star Wars RPG stuff
2:19
Scooter: all KOTOR footage on screen so far. nothing new
2:19
Scooter: So manu talking heads
2:19
Scooter: Now they're talking about KOTOR 2, wihch bioware didnt do, wheeee!
2:20
Scooter: Now they're babbling about the comics
2:20
Scooter: Dr Ray likes the toys, apparently.
2:20
Scooter: Some Lucasarts suit talks abougt "one of the worst kept secrets in the industry"
2:20
Scooter: Lucasrts suit = Gerry Rodriguez
2:21
Scooter: Darrell
2:21
Scooter: I totally got his name wrong.
2:21
Scooter: He finally called it the online KOTOR
2:21
Scooter: He's talkig about how awesome Buoiware is and how they're friends with EA
2:21
Scooter: Star Wars IP plus BioWare storytelling plus EA coolness
2:22
Scooter: Dr Ray and Greg are now here.
2:22
Scooter: Ray is still the Spock of hte gaming industry
2:22
Scooter: Ray is talking about the rumors, such as Howard the Duck the MMO
2:22
Scooter: I totally would play that.
2:22
Scooter: THX-1138 was another joke idea.
2:23
Scooter: MMO in the KOTOR universe, again, verified by Ray.
2:23
Scooter: "A dynamic period full of jedi and sith"
2:23
Scooter: Story-based MMO
2:23
Scooter: I hope it's like age of conan, but better.
2:23
Scooter: Ray wants to make something innovative and storybased
2:24
Scooter: Now he's talking about the KOTOR3 and going into KOTOR6, but decided to go MMO route
2:24
Scooter: listing the four pillars: exploration, customization, combat, and ...
2:24
Scooter: STORY
2:24
Scooter: story gives MEANING
2:25
Scooter: Ray is talking about living the archetypal moments of the SW universe
2:25
Scooter: Greg is talking about state of the game and how it's playable
2:25
Scooter: "We're not going to be playing it today"
2:25
Scooter: Doh
2:25
Scooter: Greg is dropping mad MMO acronyms like RVR PVP etc
2:26
Scooter: But he's talking about a game for KOTOR fans who don't play MMOs
2:26
Scooter: Companion characters are now the topic
2:26
Scooter: COMPANIONS ARE IN. HK-47 PET?!?!?!?
2:26
Scooter: You can't have Han Solo without Chewbacca is the analogy Greg uses.
2:27
Scooter: Companions will have own stories and quests, and you can manipulate them if you're an evil dark side duder
2:27
Scooter: BG2 is COMPLETELY DWARFED by this game (size-wise)
2:27
Scooter: TRAILER TIME
2:28
Scooter: still plying logos
2:28
Scooter: title scroll about imminent war between sith and old republic
2:28
Scooter: olde tyme space shio,and close up of a crystal thingy
2:28
Scooter: there's an assassin droid on screen
2:29
Scooter: some jedi dude is force choking some soldier fool
2:29
Scooter: DOORS ARE OPENING
2:29
Scooter: EPISODE 1 FIGHT MUSIC whike two jedi are dueling
2:29
Scooter: "your saga begins online"
2:29
Scooter: Star Wars: the Old republic = title
2:30
Scooter: Ray is introducing James Ohlen
2:30
Scooter: Lead designer on KOTOR and Baldur's Gate
2:30
Scooter: He's got street cred
2:30
Scooter: He's going to talk about high level design stuff
2:31
Scooter: KOTOR is the coolest game of my career, and SW: Old republic is even MORE exciting! compelling!
2:31
Scooter: "bringing story to the online space"
2:31
Scooter: takes place 3500 years before movies
2:31
Scooter: there's a haggard jedi looking guy plus some random monster art on screen while he talks
2:31
Scooter: 300 years after KOTOR 1 and 2
2:32
Scooter: New Sith Empire is THE MAN
2:32
Scooter: terentatex= ny Star wars nerd know what this is?it was just onscreen
2:32
Scooter: Faction: Galactic Republic or Sith Empire
2:32
Scooter: classes within each faction
2:33
Scooter: he's talking about individual stories of characters like han solo and luke
2:33
Scooter: that's the dynamic he wants; players with own stories who commune with others
2:33
Scooter: players will have to make hard choices
2:33
Scooter: "good, evil, pragmatic, or unpredictable"
2:34
Scooter: reiterates that companion characters are important to both bioware games and SW movies
2:34
Scooter: companions, player choice, unique classes, and players joining together are the key factors of the experience
2:34
Scooter: now here comes the art director
2:35
Scooter: Jeff Dobson, he's worked on other MMOs
2:35
Scooter: quick aside: no in game art has been shown so far
2:35
Scooter: I WILL DESCRIBE THE GAME LOOK WHEN I SEE IT
2:35
Scooter: all art is concept art so far
2:36
Scooter: Dobson is talking about making it Star Wars and recognizable
2:36
Scooter: oh wait, a kinda cool image of a olde tyme trooper just flashed by
2:36
Scooter: looks pretty KOTOR-ish
2:37
Scooter: it's a trooper design i haven't really seen
2:37
Scooter: NOT EVEN ANTHONY knows what the trooper was!
2:37
Scooter: he's a huge SW nerd
2:38
Scooter: he's talking about how they gotta get the character art right, since that's ALL YOU SEE IN AN MMO
2:38
Scooter: why is he talking about broad shoulders and square jaws if you're going to wear space armor? that's a mystery to me.
2:39
Scooter: AHA, he just talks about how the art is designed to run across ALL range of PCs
2:39
Scooter: he's talking about a video that's coming up
2:40
Scooter: pre-production footage marker just flashed by
2:40
Scooter: unoptimized framerate!
2:40
Scooter: just location shots so far
2:40
Scooter: now jedi and droids and combat sequences
2:40
Scooter: no UI, so i cant tell you how it's actually playing out.
2:41
Scooter: anythony said it reminded him of age of conan with a bit of WoW
2:41
Scooter: combat-aninmation wise
2:41
Scooter: choppy jedi swings
2:41
Scooter: back to the title card
2:42
Scooter: ray is talking about general overview stuff
2:42
Scooter: there will be PvP, raids, etc.
2:42
Scooter: still no specifics about classes or anything
2:43
Scooter: it's still early, and now they're done talking
2:43
Scooter: So really, all that's been said and shown is some choppy combat and talks about story stuff without specifics
2:43
Scooter: we'll have breakout sessions, and will try to get more info from them
2:43
Scooter: Q&A time!
2:44
Scooter: is the footage pre-alpha?
2:44
Scooter: YES
2:44
Scooter: howlong have you been working on this game?
2:44
Scooter: NO DETAILS ON SCHEDULE
2:44
Scooter: just that it's a typical bioware game
2:44
Scooter: CONSOLE PLATFORMS?
2:45
Scooter: goeff keighley asked that
2:45
Scooter: "we'r eonly talking about PC... TODAY"
2:45
Scooter: hmmmmmm
2:45
Scooter: someone just asked if there's a subscription
2:45
Scooter: "no details on business model just yet"
2:45
Scooter: someone just asked for release date
2:46
Scooter: "some point IN THE FUTURE"
2:46
Scooter: "why go faction and then side instead of organic 'make a new dude and just go'" begining
2:46
Scooter: there is a design reason for that
2:46
Scooter: "what about the future of SWG?"
2:46
Scooter: "today we're talking about old republic"
2:47
Scooter: open beta?
2:47
Scooter: "AT SOME POINT"
2:47
Scooter: anything about classes or races?

There's more in that link Dark_Lord posted.
 
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Not feeling the player models at all. The lightsabers are WAY out of proportion and just looks off. Hopefully its just an early player model.
 
They look like they are using the lightsaber toys.
 
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