Stargate SG-1/Atlantis/Universe

[carrrnuttt]

maybe I was a little short there, but sometimes things bother me. It's not so much the makeup, as the choice of makeup. TJ doesn't look like a soldier to me... Chloe certainly doesn't look like a senator's daughter, or a senator's aid to me. It's the creative choice, rather than the skill of those at work.

Like the senator of California's house. This doesn't look like the house of someone who just spent billions on anything. The peices just don't fit.

Huh? What?

First off, I was in the Air Force, and I trained and served alongside men and women from every major US military department, and I don't know how a soldier's supposed to "look." Also, TJ is an officer...in the Air Force. This means that not only does she have a minimum of a Bachelor's Degree (requirement to go to officer school), the fact that she's a female Air Force officer makes her one of the farthest removed from being a "soldier." Oh, and call her "airman," by the way. Not only that, but she's also a medical officer.

Second, how the flying hell is a senator's daughter supposed to "look?" Care to define that for us mere plebeians? Below are two pictures of the better-known daughters of senators (one's a former daughter of a senator, since her mom is the Sec. of State now). Care to tell us how Chloe Armstrong doesn't fit into their "mold?"

Lastly, US senators, as of 2009, make $174,000.00 a year. A significant sum, yes, but hardly close to what a true billionaire is worth. I personally know people who earn about that much who live in a simple suburban home. When the Sen. said that "he" spent money, did you REALLY think he meant that he spent his own?

Jeebus, man. If you're going to nitpick, at least pick on something you actually KNOW something about. Even then, you're nitpicking how "realistic" things are in a show that requires massive suspension of disbelief. Just say you don't like the vibes of show, and walk away. Quit trying to "justify" your dislike with inane, not to mention highly inaccurate, rationality.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Oddly enough, I think one of the colonels called someone "soldier" in the show. That made me cringe. As far as we've seen, the SGC contains only airmen and marines.

 

[GhostPoet]

Wow...someone hit a nerve...and an artery because I see blood gushing!

 

[Superfreak]

have we already resorted to the 'you don't agree, you leave' argument already? PATHETIC

TJ, between the makeup, the jewelry and the hair, doesn't look like any military person IMO. WTF does her education level have to do with anything? The house, did you look at the garden, or the total and utter lack of security around the house... ie. it was just some normal middle class house from canada, with dead flower garden, and that's what it screamed to me.

simply put, I'm gonna continue to be *****y, until the show has generated a level of confidence, where I don't have to worry about such things: Deal with it.


on the stones: Doctor useless still makes no sense to me. Telford makes sense, because he is supposed to be the leader, and therefor has some sort of preperation for whatever was on the other side of the 9 chevron address. She on the other hand was totally and utterly useless, and her 40s of screen time could have otherwise been used.


I was impressed with the use of montage however. It fit nicely into the meagre narrative they had for the episode. But the future episodes really need to have more 'story' in it.

 

[Dr Lee]

Doctor Useless?

 

[Superfreak]

Doctor Useless?

the woman that traded places with Chloe

 

[Dr Lee]

I saw that as a plot device to get Chloe back on Earth.... and to have someone go WTF when TJ drugged Telford....

My only problem with the LRC was that when Rush first used it... Dr Lee was sat at the controls with a stone on the pad while reading a magazine..... in a manner that said to me that he was waiting for them to get in touch..... seemed a bit strange to me.

 

[Superfreak]

I saw that as a plot device to get Chloe back on Earth.... and to have someone go WTF when TJ drugged Telford....

My only problem with the LRC was that when Rush first used it... Dr Lee was sat at the controls with a stone on the pad while reading a magazine..... in a manner that said to me that he was waiting for them to get in touch..... seemed a bit strange to me.

I agree, it's just poor form IMO. The plot device should be hidden, or integrated so it doesn't stand out. It shouldn't be some random wandering around, merely because they needed to get Chloe's brain home. It should be someone useful to the story, other than providing the opportunity for Chloe to go home... maybe she'll be explained later... but as for her use in the show, I wasn't really impressed

maybe they have multiple sets going, and they need someone with the gene always available just in case (ie. not only for the universe crew, but all the other sg endeavors as well). By the way, the stones still do require the gene right? As per my favorite Barber episode? So Chloe just randomly has it?

what I didn't like about the first use of the stones is what was Dr. Lee doing?

 

[Dr Lee]

it seemed as though he was just sat there waiting for someone to 'ring' in.... as though he was expecting it to happen

 

[Superfreak]

it seemed as though he was just sat there waiting for someone to 'ring' in.... as though he was expecting it to happen

no, I mean what was he doing on Destiny?

 

[Dr Lee]

Oh.... no idea.... if he wasn't expecting it then i would have thought he'd start wandering looking for someone.... but he didn't.... It's all very strange to me, hopefully it's something that'll be fixed later on in the show

 

[wiegeabo]

I may need to watch this episode again. But I thought the woman who traded places with Chloe was an IOA representative, because they always think they know better and have to stick their noses into everything. And if the military gets to have a presence on Destiny, then the IOA would want to as well.

Really, there was no reason to send a doctor or anything to Destiny. The Colonel would have told him about all the seriously injured (which was essentially just him), and they don't have any resources for them to use anyway.

 

[C. Lee]

it seemed as though he was just sat there waiting for someone to 'ring' in.... as though he was expecting it to happen

He probably was waiting to see if anyone dialed in through the stones. 80 some people went missing, they know a stargate was dialed and in use for about 8 minutes.....why not set one guy aside with one of the stones next to him in case someone used them.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It seems like they have people take shifts waiting for "calls" by the stones at Stargate Command. Dr. Lee was sitting there doing nothing, apparently, until someone used the stones on Destiny. Chances are, since the SGC has managed to dial their gates out to pretty unbelievable distances for the past five years or so, they now rely on the stones for communication with teams that are way, way out in deep space relative to Earth. They're easily the most reliable and immediate form of communication for such vast distances, so why wouldn't the SGC be exploiting them and having people take shifts to sit by the stones in case someone calls in?

Really, there was no reason to send a doctor or anything to Destiny. The Colonel would have told him about all the seriously injured (which was essentially just him), and they don't have any resources for them to use anyway.

A full doctor would still have more knowledge than TJ, even without equipment. They might catch things she missed. Whether they'd actually be able to do anything about them with what's at hand on Destiny depends on what those things are.

 

[RetroNaz]

Sounds like a few of you aren't getting into the show quite as much as I am - which is a shame.

*shrugs*

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm enjoying it. I'm just a bit wary because, as familiar and comfortable as all the Stargate stuff feels, the creative team behind it can slide into stale, boring stories pretty easily.

 

[RetroNaz]

Quite honestly, I'm just thankful there is still SOME form of sci fi on tv that is thankfully part of the Stargate franchise.

But I can certainly see where some of you are coming from. Some of you though.

There are some within here that do seem to be scraping at the bottom of the barrel for things to complain about given it's only just started...but that's just my opinion.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I agree. I try not to be too nitpicky anymore. It's fun now and then, especially if the show is terrible anyway, but you can basically pick even the best show apart on little things. SGU's doing all right so far to me. I hope they can keep this level of quality up.

 

[Sam Fisher]

Honestly I loved the third episode almost as much as the first two.

 

[RetroNaz]

I agree. I try not to be too nitpicky anymore. It's fun now and then, especially if the show is terrible anyway, but you can basically pick even the best show apart on little things. SGU's doing all right so far to me. I hope they can keep this level of quality up.

I hope so too Corp.

Is anyone keeping a tab on the ratings for this thing?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

This is the most recent ratings-related thing I could find at Gateworld. They track ratings religiously over there.

 

[RetroNaz]

I'm liking what I'm reading about that. I wonder if it's helped by the fact that this show seems to be geared towards more of a general audience than the past series before it..?

I can certainly account for my fiance being a fan of this one, but having no interest what so ever in SG or SGA.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

They're solid ratings, but SG-1 did about the same in its earlier seasons on Sci Fi, I believe. From what I recall, SG-1 and Atlantis dipped down toward 1.1 or even under 1.0 when they were canceled and they did around 2.0 at best. So SGU's definitely looking healthy after 3 episodes at around 1.8.

 

[RetroNaz]

Totally unrelated > but I reeeeally wish Sarah Connor Chronicles was a ScyFy produced show

 

[Happenstance]

I hope over christmas the UK overtakes the US in airing new eps of SGU again like it used to, I hate having to avoid the thread while I wait for it to air here!