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Yep. Read that over at Gateworld. I'm glad that the cast all seem to be re-energized because of all the changes. A lot of people whine about how it's not "really" SG-1 anymore, but I say poppycock to all that. It's not the same, but it is still SG-1, just in some new contexts. Whether those contexts prove as interesting as the original ones remains to be seen, but let's not forget that Stargate SG-1 wasn't "really" the Stargate established by the movie when it started, either. ;)
 
Question guys I recently brought Seasons 1 - 7 of Stargate on DVD. I am last episode of Volume 4 Season 2 & I have one question. I know Daniel's wife is alive even though that thing is still inside her she is obviously still in there somewhere & yes I know the big bad guy Apophis is dead but is Skarrow well in other words the kid from the original movie that ended up liking Kurt Russells Jack 0 Neil. It was said that BOTH Apophis & he survived. Like I said Daniels wife is still alive obviously my question is when is the next time we will hear from them ? Havent heard about Skarrow (I think that is his name) is he still alive somewhere ? Because there was one episode after the explosions of the 2 motherships where Apophis used Teal Cs son. There is still no word on Skarrow. Do any of you remember if hes still around in later seasons ?
 
he is around, there are I think 2 major episodes with him in. I could look them up on my other HD, but I'm too lazy... Skarra is last seen in full cirlce at the end of season 6.
 
Yes I am asking to be spoiled here but do they become normal again ? Obviously Daniel never found his wife unless he did they just did not stay together after her becoming normal ? Spoil me away with these story lines guys.
 
The thing is after 9 seasons you kinda get fuzzy on the details. As far as I know, Sha Re became pregnant with Apophis's kid who was supposed to have all the knowledge of the goa'uld and died shortly after she gave birth to him in season 4 I think. I have no idea what happens to Skarra after he leads the attack force to destroy Earth at the begining of season 2, except that they do meet him again in later seasons. O'Neill tries to get to him, I think he succeds and yeah, Skarra then ascends.
 
The kid is alive Apophis's kid that is. Daniel left him with his wife's father. The kid is being hidden. Daniel is the one that gave birth to him & Sha Re is alive far as I know. The bith thing happened in Season 2 & the last we saw of Sha Re she was leaving with Apophis after the kid was hidden & the last thing she did was look directly at Daniel & the SG1 while leaving (who were hiding from Apophis) so obviously there is still some Sha Re left in her after the thing in her being asleep.
 
MvTrlrMsc said:
Yes I am asking to be spoiled here but do they become normal again ? Obviously Daniel never found his wife unless he did they just did not stay together after her becoming normal ? Spoil me away with these story lines guys.


Ok, you asked for it.

Daniels wife/goauld becomes free, but only for a short while, while she is pregnant with the child of apophis... When the goauld reasserts itself after the child is born, Daniels wife takes off. She is later encountered during a rescue mission to save Abidonians(Kidnapped to find the child), where she is killed by Teal'c, while killing daniel with a wrist device. There is a psychic link w/i the wrist device, allowing Daniel and Sharre to be with eachother for a short time, long enough for Sharre to tell Daniel where her Goauld has hidden the child. (hence the episode title: Forever in a day).

Skarra/Goauld, is eventually arrested by the advanced humans (the ones rescued from volcano planet in season 1). He goes through a court and the goauld is removed. Skarra later gets blown away fighting Jaffa, and bleeds to death in the basement of the Abidos pyramid. He then ascends just prior to the destruction of the planet by Anubis' superweapon.

The story comes back to the child 2 more times. Once when SG-1 locates the hidding place to with Charre's Goauld takes baby(maternal instincts). And again the season afterwards, when the child returns to learn of its mother(absolute power).
 
So Skarra & Daniel's wife both die in the end eh well that just sucks. I would have thought Skarra would at least live with Jack's help.
 
He isn't dead! If anything his the luckiest one in the whole show! He didn't do anything and still he ascended. Daniel had to save an entire civilisation and then die a horrible painful death.
 
Superfreak said:
Ok, you asked for it.

Daniels wife/goauld becomes free, but only for a short while, while she is pregnant with the child of apophis... When the goauld reasserts itself after the child is born, Daniels wife takes off. She is later encountered during a rescue mission to save Abidonians(Kidnapped to find the child), where she is killed by Teal'c, while killing daniel with a wrist device. There is a psychic link w/i the wrist device, allowing Daniel and Sharre to be with eachother for a short time, long enough for Sharre to tell Daniel where her Goauld has hidden the child. (hence the episode title: Forever in a day).

Skarra/Goauld, is eventually arrested by the advanced humans (the ones rescued from volcano planet in season 1). He goes through a court and the goauld is removed. Skarra later gets blown away fighting Jaffa, and bleeds to death in the basement of the Abidos pyramid. He then ascends just prior to the destruction of the planet by Anubis' superweapon.

The story comes back to the child 2 more times. Once when SG-1 locates the hidding place to with Charre's Goauld takes baby(maternal instincts). And again the season afterwards, when the child returns to learn of its mother(absolute power).

It's actually Sha're/Amaunet and Skaara/Corel
 
Can the next 3 posters be so kind to include LOL in their posts for me? Strange request, I know.
 
Apophis is really starting to piss me off. Can't this guy die damn it
(referring to Season 3) Hey can any of you guys tell me if Apophis is DEAD DEAD & can NOT pop up out of no where during Season 9 ? I am getting annoyed of him popping up :down
 
Happenstance said:
Its actually Sha're/Amunet and Skaara/Klorel :P

EDIT: LOL (for Matt)

No I've seen the relavent episodes 4 times each (thank you Space) and they say Corel maybe it's with a K or maybe not but it's Corel and not Klorel for sure.

MvTrlrMsc you don't have to wait long he dies for good at the end of either season 4 or 5. When your ship crashs into a planet at full sub-light speed and makes an explosion that changes the weather you tend not to live through it. But you see him a few more times in alternate realities and flash backs.
 
Thank God :up:


I just finished the Skaara episode. It is nice to see ONE story that has a tie in to the movie end happily :up:

I am guessing Skaara is now home & there will be more episodes in future seasons on that planet. Well the whole show is a tie in to the movie but you get the idea.
 
MvTrlrMsc, read the following at your own risk.

Actually Anubis exterminates the whole population of Abbydos (including good father and Skaara) in the season 6 finaly. But Oma hepls them accend, so they don't really die....
 
Well I hope 0 Neil & Jackson eventually finds out they are okay. Do they ? I really hate unresolved plot twists.
 
Why dont you just watch the seasons yourself? Its a lot better than finding out all the information on here. And lars ive just been watching season 1-6 back to back for the past few weeks and I know its Klorel, heres a link that shows it:

Link To Klorel's Bio On Gateworld

Just go down and click on K for proof, heres the bio:

THE STARGATE OMNIPEDIA
Link Here | ?
KLOREL
The son of Apophis, Klorel is a young Goa'uld who took the Abydonian Skaara as his host. Eager to earn the respect of his father, Klorel joined his father in a campaign against Earth. Unknown to him, SG-1 had boarded and sabotaged his Ha'tak. O'Neill was determined to get through to Skaara, but was only somewhat successful. Jack was forced to shoot Klorel to keep him from killing Jackson with a hand device. However, unbeknownst to O'Neill, the Jaffa Bra'tac placed him in his sarcophagus, restoring him to life.

The campaign against Earth failed after SG-1 and Bra'tac destroyed the two attack ships, and Klorel escaped with Apophis through the on-board Stargate.

Two years later, Klorel fled a battle group dispatched by the System Lord Heru-ur, and made his way to the planet Tollana. He crash-landed in a death glider, and his injuries allowed Skaara to surface and plead for help from the Tollan people. The Tollan placed Klorel and Skaara on triad to decide who will permanently be in charge over Skaara's body. In the end, the swaying vote fell to Lya of the Nox, who declared Klorel should to be removed from Skaara's body.

Klorel, indeed, was removed by the Tok'ra, and sent through the Stargate to the Goa'uld world of his choice. It is unknown if he survived long enough to possess another host.

PLAYED BY - Alexis Cruz
FIRST APPEARED - Children of the Gods

KEY EPISODE(S) -
Children of the Gods - Klorel takes Skaara, a young Abydonian boy, as his host after Apophis kidnaps him.

Within the Serpent's Grasp - SG-1 discovers that the Goa'uld who has taken Skaara is Apophis' son, and is joining the Goa'uld's attack on Earth.

The Serpent's Lair - The team thwarts Klorel and Apophis' attack on Earth, but Klorel is brought back to life with a sarcophagus and escapes with Apophis.

Pretense - Klorel crash lands on Tollana, where the Tollan hold a trial to determine whether he or Skaara have a right to Skaara's body. Klorel loses, and is extracted and sent to a Goa'uld-controlled planet.
 
MvTrlrMsc said:
Well I hope 0 Neil & Jackson eventually finds out they are okay. Do they ? I really hate unresolved plot twists.
Jack and Daniel find out that Skaara and the other Abydonians ascended in the very same episode that they do ascend. Anubis destroys Abydos but they want to check and make sure there are no survivors, so the SGC tries to dial the gate. They fail a bunch of times but keep trying anyway. Then, miraculously, the gate connects. SG-1 goes through and finds everything exactly as it was, as if nothing happened to Abydos. Skaara shows up, explains things to O'Neill and the others, and then does the glowy ascended being thing. SG-1 turns to go back through the gate with the knowledge that their friends are still out there, looking out for them as ascended beings. Jack turns back to where the Abydonian settlement was but is surprised to find that it's completely vanished. In fact, everything has vanished except for the gate. The ascended beings' power basically recreated Abydos so Skaara and the others could give their message to SG-1, then they reverted Abydos into the barren husk that Anubis made it after they left.

Anyway, I thought "Origin" was kind of so-so. I liked a lot of things about it, namely:

- Daniel's "Daniel-ness" while trying to reason with the Doci. Man, that whole conversation took me back to seasons 2 and 3, when Daniel was much less of the warrior archetype he's become and much more of the naive genius he started out as.

- Gerak seems like a suitably antagonistic jerk. He should make a good foil for Teal'c and the "good" Jaffa that we know and love, like Bratac and Rak'nor.

- Mitchell going all-out southern on us and talking about his gran'ma with the Prior. Different humor from Jack's, obviously, but I found the country-boy humor pretty funny. I like that he and Teal'c finally began to bond a bit too.

- The whole Crusade angle. I liked the ending speech where the Doci says something along the lines of "we will gather an army and stomp the unbelievers!" to the administrator.

- Immolations are always fun. :)

Of course, there were also things I wasn't so hot on. Mostly, it had to do with how flat the Ori came off. People on another board I frequent have been expressing concern that the Ori are just an upgraded version of the Goa'uld, and I hate to say it, but they may be right. The Ori seemed to just be a new spin on the false god archetype established by the Goa'uld. The Priors and Doci are pretty cool because of the whole religious fanaticism bent, but I don't know how long that'll stay fresh. I hope the Ori will be fleshed out more over the course of this season, but as of right now they're just another variant on a theme.

But hey, they're done with the exposition-filled 3-part opener now, the pieces are all in place, and the team is mostly back to being associated with each other, if not necessarily a true team just yet. I'm looking forward to the off-world stuff, more about the new villains, more about the Ancients, the return of Carter, the official re-forming of SG-1, more development for Mitchell and Landry, and other stuff. There's a lot of material for this season to potentially turn into something great.

P.S. - Anyone else find it odd that the preview for next week's episode featured a shot of Vala with the dialogue "she's back!"? Dude, she never left! :o
 
I quit liked Origin but ive become worried about Mitchell again. I wasnt sure about him before the season started, liked him in the 1st 2 eps but then in this episode he started to annoy me. I didnt like the constant mentioning of the grandma, didnt find it funny at all and I dont want to have to hear an over excited shout from him every few episodes as it wound me up in this one aswell.
Im a massive fan of Stargate so I really do hate complaining about these things but it has to be done.

Saying all that though Im still enjoying the problems the Jaffa are having, its making an interesting side story. The Ori........hmmmm. I agree that they are seeming like a worse version of the Goa'uld but with an ancient/assended twist. Ive always found the bad guys who spout off their religious beliefs the most evil in my eyes (the ones that spring to mind are the guy from Season 3's "Demons" and Season 5's "Red Sky")
 
From the Ori bible:
"And on the seventh day Joe Average the believer got zombified! Hollowed are the Ori."

:)
Well... Origin was, ahm... interesting for lack of a better word. We got to know the Ori a bit more and I gotta agree with Daniel. They be scary little s'o'bs. But just like Corpy pointed out, they're basically goa'uld version 2.0. Which is a shame because when the demon thingie possesed that guy to talk to Daniel it said: "We do not require blind faith."
shyeah right! It will be interesting to see if the Ancients react at all to their presence in our galaxy. It's kind of ironic how they claim to be enlightened and yet resort to such crude methods as mass manipulation and religious dogma. Maybe they got the nasty part of the enlightenement, and the Ancients got the good part. :) And I'd like to see how they're gonna try to convert the asgard:
"Hollowed are the... ugggh! You guys are ugly!"
Now that I think about it... those silly Ori have no idea what they're getting into. Coming into a galaxy that has not only humans, but asgards, nox, some left over goa'ulds, grandmas. Seriously now, we'd better be scared for them!
Mitchell - still an O'Neill clone, but with a certain southern flavour.
Teal'c- Hang in there buddy. I'm romanian so I know something about these dictator figures. Sooner or later somebody is gonna execute him. Maybe it's gonna be you!
Vala and Daniel: just shut up and start making babies already.
The General: So classy, so diplomatic, so full of ****, so american. :)
Walter: keep up the good work. You know you're the only reason that place is still runing.
 
TheCorpulent1 said:
That guy from "Demons" was such a *****e. I really, really hated him.


He's nothing compared to how much of a *****e Apophis was


& also I get the feeling Jackson is NOT in Season 6 as he is not on the DVD Cover
 
Nope here's why

Micheal Shanks, for reasons not known to me, took a year off from SG-1 for season 6. The story was he he got a lethal dose of radiation and was offered a chance to acend, which he took. Thus he didn't die but was gone from our plane. Jonas Quinn (Corin Nemec), the scientist working on the project that got Daniel the radiation dose took his place on SG-1 for season 6. Daniel was forced to un-acend in the same episode where Anubis nukes Abydos. Danny boy attacked Anubis when he said eh was nuking Abydos anyway, breaking a major rule of the acended ancients.
 
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