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well, if SG-1 is cancelled: things to look forward too: final confrontation with the Origin Crusaders, final confrontation b/w the ancients and Ori, and a very cool series finale (they do have 8 months to prepare for it which is nice). If the show is to end, I don't want to see daniel go to atlantis!!!! He will be a prior by the end of this half of the season, but he will also have ascended the ancient way. I'd much rather see him ascend to a higher position that both the ancients and the ori (but that's just me)

If it goes to a movie, I'm not so enthused. Going from TV to movie rarely works out well IMO with ST being the exception. There is too much history inherant in a 10 year old TV show to make a 2 hour movie fulfilling.

Damn atlantis for steeling all of SG1's thunder.
 
I was interested in the idea of a movie for the last few seasons, im not anymore. I think the final confrontation with the Goa'uld would have worked well in a movie. The Ori arent established enough and im not a massive fan of anything ascended related on SG1, never have been.
 
Crap you beat me to it...I created a whole thread for us to cry about SG1 being cancelled...
 
Just a reminder that we still have to keep the ratings for SG1 up (Damn me for not being able to contribute!)

Cooper: SG-1 will go on


Don't count Stargate SG-1 out just yet. Though SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running series (story), the show's producers are hard at work looking for a new outlet for the story to continue, executive producer Robert C. Cooper told GateWorld exclusively.

"As far as the future I can't comment yet because nothing has been confirmed," Cooper said. "What we want to emphasize is that the franchise is not dying. SG-1 will go on in some way. We're just not ready to announce how."

A formal announcement from the studio and the network is expected later this week.

Cooper also emphasizes that, though emotions are running high among Stargate fans who have just learned the news, it is important to keep the show's ratings strong throughout the remainder of its run on SCI FI. "What's most important is that fans don't take out their frustration with SCI FI by not watching," he said. "In fact, what they need to do is watch both SG-1 and Atlantis LIVE and make sure the ratings stay strong.

"That helps prove to other outlets that might be interested in SG-1 that the show is still as strong as we think it is."

Could Stargate SG-1 find its way to yet another network in 2007? Or might the SG-1 team be headed for a TV movie, mini-series, direct-to-video feature ... or the big screen? Stay with GateWorld for the latest developments.

Stargate SG-1 Season Ten continues with all-new episodes this Friday at 9 p.m. Eastern/Pacific on SCI FI, followed by Stargate Atlantis at 10 p.m.!
 
Happenstance said:
Just a reminder that we still have to keep the ratings for SG1 up (Damn me for not being able to contribute!)


well, that's half the problem isn't it. I remember the same kind of requests going around when the first season of BSG finished. The producers were asking the fans to watch the show on their channel to raise ratings, and prove that the fan base was there to justify the survival of the show.

I give a double middle finger to the producers for this request.

why?

because SciFi is not accessible to all. I know that season 10 of SG1 or Atlantis season 3 haven't started in Canada. So how the hell can we watch, and help to improve tv ratings? WE CAN'T. (and I just like to throw in my old point, which most of you know: THE SHOW IS FILMED IN FREIKIN CANADA, WHY DOESN'T IT AIR HERE FIRST? OR ATLEAST CONCURRENTLY WITH THE SCIFI AIRINGS?)

I think that 90% of the fanbase has to wait another 6 months before they can watch it. So this is a big F U to the producers for not pushing the accessibility of the show (just like BSG 18 months ago). There are TV's all over the world, yet the show is only available to a select few. It is a result of poor marketing, and even worse distribution.

Maybe if short sighted TV exec's would think for a second, and release a show to the global audience, instead of a select few, it would show far better numbers. Get the show to all the people who want to watch it, and it will be far more successful.

I just hate how TV airs in one place, and another still has to wait half a year etc. Can anyone blame the internet for piracy when the lag in releases in far off countries is so huge, that one is spoiled by the time it comes out for them.

So to SG producers: why not make the show available to all, at the same time, rather than making a majority of the market wait for 6 months to a year to watch the season?
 
Yeah, I never got why Canada, of all places, had to wait for SG-1. The show's filmed in Vancouver, for Christ's sake.
 
Superfreak said:
yeah yeah, still doesn't change the fact that I'd much rather have single serving episodes that all contribute to the full season arc. I'd rather have a feast, than a happy meal.


Grossly inaccurate analogy but you're entitled to your opinion.
 
I've been watching the new series on youtube, as I can't be bothered to wait for the DVDs (I don't actually watch Stargate on tv, I buy the dvds because they come out one every two weeks over here... i.e. SG1, Atlantis, SG1, Atlantis... every two weeks). It seems ok. The 200th episode was pretty good :)
 
Well the latest ep of SG1 was pretty good I thought. Im still not a massive fan of the Ori but at least the weapon on Dakara is finally destroyed as it was supposed to have been last season, not just promised not to use it!
 
SG-1 was pretty good. The scenes with Adria using her powers were pretty intense.

I thought Atlantis was really good. We got to see the Wraith in a whole new light.
 
MGM considers SG-1's future

Franchise owner MGM is exploring its options for Stargate SG-1 after its cancellation this week -- but SCI FI says TV isn't one of them.

"We don't look at Stargate SG-1 as a TV show, but a franchise," MGM spokesman Jeff Pryor told Multichannel News. "It is our intention to vigorously find a way to extend the franchise."

Fans have speculated this week that that could mean an SG-1 feature film, TV movie, mini-series ... or even Season Eleven on another network. U.S. cable networks such as SpikeTV and G4 have been expanding their original and science fiction programming, and former SG-1 home Showtime may be open the series again following its five years of great success on basic cable.

But such a move may be out of the question, if SCI FI Channel has anything to say about it. "There is not going to be [an 11th season] on U.S. television," Mark Stern, SCI FI's executive vice president of programming, told Multichannel flatly. "Our contract with MGM prohibits it."

"It's done a great job, rejuvenated with the additions of Ben [Browder], Claudia [Black] and Beau [Bridges], but we think we've come to the end of those stories," Stern said. "We really felt like it was the right time to segue out, for the show not to overstay its welcome."

Reruns of Stargate SG-1 will continue on SCI FI following the spring 2007 finale.

He added that the network "would look for opportunities for some or all of the members to appear on Atlantis." Whether SCI FI hopes to replace some Atlantis regulars with SG-1 regulars, or simply bring SG-1 cast members in for occasional guest appearances, is not known.

Meanwhile, cast member Michael Shanks ("Daniel Jackson") has been the first to comment publically on the cancellation, telling Michael Shanks Online, "Unfortunately, all good things must come to an end. But I look at it as the closing of a chapter, not the whole story."

Executive producer and series co-creator Brad Wright told TV Guide that his "dream is to take SG-1 back to the feature it began as" -- but, more realistically, the show may segue into TV movies and, eventually, a third television series. "There's absolutely no reason in the world there couldn't be and won't be another series that takes part in the Stargate universe," he said.

Wright said that the final episodes of SG-1's current season "should be a very satisfying end to the season, but not necessarily an end to SG-1 by any means."

SCI FI would be interested in more Stargate SG-1 "if MGM came to us for less," Stern said -- indicating that the licensing fee for the 10-year-old show may have played a significant role in the network's decision not to renew it. Stern was previously quoted as saying that the show's depressed summer ratings were not the (sole) reason for the decision.

But if U.S. television is not an option (apart from a mini-series or TV movie on SCI FI), what might MGM be considering?

Pryor told the Associated Press that MGM believes that "in this new media world there are many more opportunities to continue (the) franchise. We're exploring those possibilities." Some fans have speculated that MGM may hope to make Stargate SG-1's eleventh season the first show ever to be offered exclusively online. New episodes from the current season are now available for $1.99 each on iTunes.

Despite the show's lower ratings, nearly 2 million viewers still tune in to the venerable sci-fi hit. The show also airs to millions of viewers in 120 countries worldwide, earns the company extra money in U.S. syndication and on DVD, and supports fan conventions and a broad array of licensed merchanise.

"This is not the end of the 'Stargate' franchise," Pryor said. "This is just the end of (Stargate SG-1) airing on the SCI FI Channel."

Taken From Gateworld
 
here's a brainer question for experienced gaters.

In the newest episdoe of SG1, 3 Ha'Tak (whatever the spelling is) ships showed up at the planet where the disabled Ori vessel was parked. The Odyssey was told to leave by Carter b/c she thought that the loss of another ship would be bad.

Now, lets look at this for a second. We know, by definition, that earth ships, or their shields specifically, are pretty much invicible when it come to Jaffa/Goauld weaponry. Why is this so? Because we have friends who gave us sick, super advanced shields. These shields were so good they could stand up to direct barrage from Anubis' supermothership (and that was with the crappier prometheus class of SGC ship)

So, how did the writers forget that? Or is it just a convenient point that they decided to drop?
 
Even with superior shields, taking on three ships would have been a needless risk. Odyssey's weapon also aren't enough to take on three Ha'Tak vessles at the same time. So it's doubtful it would have survived.

Besides, Earth and the Jaffa still had an alliance, and fighting them would have broken it.
 
just thinkin on another direction they could take the cancelation, if it really is a cancellation.

What if, if season 10 is the final season, earth was totally destroyed by the Ori. I know it would be a weird way to end the series. But how cool would the implications on Atlantis be if earth had been destroyed? (that's rhetorical). Atlantis would be left as the last refuge of earth humanity and civilization. It could really boost the narrative drive of the new series. Just a thought.
 
The vala centric epi of SG1 was pretty good, and loved all the nods to movies that were scattered throughout the epi. In the opening sequence I was like: 'I saw this movie already'. Then the little nod to the Usual Suspects was nice.

All in all it was a fun epi.


Atlantis was good too. David Hewlett's real life sister, she's pretty cute. She looks like the wife from Howard Stern's movie, who was also cute and hot. Too bad they pooched the only ZPM they've got. How are they gonna fight the replicators when they return?
 
Just wanted to harp on last week's SG1, and the inconsistancies with the episode. It was a fun episode, and a good one, not the greatest, but better than some of the terrible episodes of the past.

anyhow, inconsistency 1) The odyssey was trapped in a battle with a number of goauld motherships, yet at the end of the episode, when Dan and Val are beaming people off the ship, and effectively recapturing it, those Ha'taks are nowhere to be seen. They just dissappeared. Where did they go? Because it seems they were just conveniently forgotten, so that the good guys could escape at the end.

inconsistency 2) Mitchell and Teal'c arrive at the alliance command ship, uncloaked. They announce the arrival of the man that mitchell is impersonating, and cam rings aboard. So Teal'c should obviously be safe on what everyone in the area thinks is an alliance cargo ship. Then like 10 minutes later, Teal'c is captured because his cloak fails. Why was he cloaked? Why wouldn't he just be parked there, waiting for mitchell to tell him what to do? The alliance new that one of the leutenants had just arrived on the ship, so why would Teal'c be cloaked all of a sudden. It just doesn't make sense to me.
 
Superfreak said:
Just wanted to harp on last week's SG1, and the inconsistancies with the episode. It was a fun episode, and a good one, not the greatest, but better than some of the terrible episodes of the past.

anyhow, inconsistency 1) The odyssey was trapped in a battle with a number of goauld motherships, yet at the end of the episode, when Dan and Val are beaming people off the ship, and effectively recapturing it, those Ha'taks are nowhere to be seen. They just dissappeared. Where did they go? Because it seems they were just conveniently forgotten, so that the good guys could escape at the end.

inconsistency 2) Mitchell and Teal'c arrive at the alliance command ship, uncloaked. They announce the arrival of the man that mitchell is impersonating, and cam rings aboard. So Teal'c should obviously be safe on what everyone in the area thinks is an alliance cargo ship. Then like 10 minutes later, Teal'c is captured because his cloak fails. Why was he cloaked? Why wouldn't he just be parked there, waiting for mitchell to tell him what to do? The alliance new that one of the leutenants had just arrived on the ship, so why would Teal'c be cloaked all of a sudden. It just doesn't make sense to me.

Yep I noticed the second one at least. For the first one I think its ok to just assume that once they had captured the Odyssey they didnt need the extra ships so those remaining ones left.

The second one I guess you just have to rationalise it yourself, I wouldnt expect the alliance cargo ships to just hang around outside for however long so maybe Teal'c left then came back cloaked. Plus he wouldnt want anyone hailing him as he is known to the alliance now.
 
Just had a thought, as SG1 is gonna be ending how about this?

We kill off everyone at Atlantis except say Sheppard and then move everyone from SG1 minus Mitchell over to Atlantis :p
 
Happenstance said:
Yep I noticed the second one at least. For the first one I think its ok to just assume that once they had captured the Odyssey they didnt need the extra ships so those remaining ones left.

The second one I guess you just have to rationalise it yourself, I wouldnt expect the alliance cargo ships to just hang around outside for however long so maybe Teal'c left then came back cloaked. Plus he wouldnt want anyone hailing him as he is known to the alliance now.

I disagree.

situation with the Hataks: why would an admiral of sorts, transfer his flag to the newly captured ship, which he knows nothing about, and has to compel one of it's crew to fix it, have his own ships leave? There would be at least one mothership there, just in case the alliance commander couldn't fix the odyssey.

situation with tealc and the cloaked cargo ship. Teal'c ship would have been considered Keflin's personal car. Waiting would seem to me like a logical behavior for a ship dropping off it's commander.
 
so I'm just gonna come out and say it: Both cliffhangers were not worthy of the series they belong to.

SG1 was a little better than SGA. But the cliffhanger is kind of non existant. Loved when each member of the team, and Baal and Adria had to give up something that belonged to them, and Vala pulls the hairdryer out of her kit, brilliant. Infact, I'm loving most of the Vala additions to the show. Like how she ran to daniel after awaking, still wearing the beauty mask etc. her character is well written. Strange she had little interaction with Adria once her disguise had failed.

SGA: I can't say how much of a dissappointment this episode was. yes, things happened, but we didn't get to see anything, and that's a terrible way to deal a CH. We didn't get to see the ancient ship, we didn't get to see what the Replicators had in store for Atlantis. One second Oneill is sending out a distress signal, then the next, the Replicators are in charge. There was far to much emphasis put on the 'what do we do now?' aspects of the characters once they had returned to earth.


Basically, I wasn't enthused by either cliffhanger, and am not really on the edge of my seat, waiting to see what's going to happen in march. Unless I'm bored off my mind, I don't think I'm gonna be getting all that hyped for the coming of the 10.5, and 3.5 season's of either show.

and from spoilers, the only thing that might happen on Atlantis that would be interesting in any way, is that shep is going to drone the Atlantis command center in the first 10 seconds of the episode... after that, it turns into some lame computer virus episode
 
Man, this was way down on the seventh page? No new episodes means no discussion whatsoever, I guess. Anyway, here's some good news:

From GateWorld:
MGM has given a green light for the show's creators to produce two direct-to-DVD movies based on SG-1.
Robert Cooper's writing and directing the first, which is said to finish up the lingering plot threads of the Ori story and probably whatever else they couldn't get to in the series, and Brad Wright's in charge of the second one, but details are sketchy on that one at best. The writer at GateWorld speculated that it might be used to launch a new Stargate series, though. Whatever the movies are about, hopefully they'll use the higher budget that the direct-to-DVD status affords to turn out something that's as fun as "Lost City" was. :up:
 
I think i'll probably look forward to the second dvd then really if the first is finishing off the Ori storyline. Personally I dont think the Ori have worked out that well, a threat as big as they are supposed to be just doesnt work over 2 seasons. We had the Goa'uld for 8 and that was definately better.
 
One could argue that the greater magnitude of the threat means that it works faster and the team, in turn, must work faster in order to stop it before it sweeps over the galaxy. At least, that seems to be how they're portraying it so far. But I agree, it would've been nice to get several more seasons out of the Ori conflict. Unfortunately, Sci Fi seems dead-set against that, so if this is the only way the showrunners can do it, so be it. I would've also preferred another dozen seasons of Farscape, but that didn't stop The Peacekeeper Wars from being unbelievably awesome.
 
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