Stargate SG-1/Atlantis/Universe

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah. I didn't give it much thought, though.

I liked the evolution of technology up to a point. I think that point was the Replicator-killer gun. Now that the humans have literally all of the Asgard's knowledge at their disposal, it's even worse. I would've been content if they'd just stayed at the 302/Prometheus level indefinitely.

 

[Kahoot]

I thought Browder gave a good performance, but Mitchell as a character never seemed to have any purpose. Okay, he's a big fanboy and he brings SG-1 back together after they've split up. Cool. But what does he actually contribute? They say he's an ace pilot who never gives up, but then they never have him actually pilot anything (as opposed to Sheppard, who flies something in just about every episode) and no one on the team gives up, so that's moot. They gave him that super-nifty martial arts training from that hidden Jaffa tribe, but then he still got his ass kicked in like every episode after that. Really, the only distinctive thing Mitchell ever did was use a bigger gun than the P90 in some episodes.

I can't believe I never noticed that the pilot never flew anything.

Anyone pick up on the conversation that Sheppard was having with Col. Caldwell about the Odyssey being on some super secret mission that no one is supposed to know about??

What's that all about then?

Yeah. I didn't give it much thought, though.

I liked the evolution of technology up to a point. I think that point was the Replicator-killer gun. Now that the humans have literally all of the Asgard's knowledge at their disposal, it's even worse. I would've been content if they'd just stayed at the 302/Prometheus level indefinitely.

Yeah I liked that it started off as normal people with a stargate and slowly they became space ship pilots and we had our own mother ships. But then it just kept going, they could kill the Replicators when the Asgard couldn't and not just with bullets like in the begining. And of course as much as I hated the Ori I hated that the SGC wiped them out in such a short battle when they were all powerful and nearly gods.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yep. On one hand, it was a pretty organic development process--one leap in tech led to another led to another, etc.--but on the other hand, by the end of the series they had just taken it way, way too far. It diluted the core concept of ordinary Earth-folk trying to get by in a universe filled with more advanced aliens. A Goa'uld System Lord would get slaughtered in a fight against Earth by Atlantis season 4, even if Earth hadn't already wiped almost all of them out.

 

[Dr Lee]

Mitchell did fly something..... he operated the flight controls of the Odyssey during Flesh and Blood and he flew a F-302 at the end of the S9 opening 3-parter.

 

[Kahoot]

Atlantis takes the evolution of technology a step futher. They can cure the Wraith and apparently the Ancient couldn't. We're about to win a war on the Wraith that the all powerful Ancients lost.

 

[BlackLantern]

It's not a direct cure as it can mutate some Wraith

 

[Kahoot]

It's not a direct cure as it can mutate some Wraith

Is this a new-ish development? I don't remember that.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Newish in the sense that it happened in the latter half of this season. With the initial version of the cure, there was a ridiculously high fatality rate and it tended to turn the grunt Wraith with the face masks into feral psychos. Todd refined the cure somehow, I think, so that it could be used more safely. I'm blanking on some of the details, though, so I might be wrong about that last bit.

Mitchell did fly something..... he operated the flight controls of the Odyssey during Flesh and Blood and he flew a F-302 at the end of the S9 opening 3-parter.

Yeah, but he didn't do anything particularly noteworthy either time. Compare that to O'Neill making the first successful test flight with the 302 or any of the death-defying stuff Sheppard has done or even Teal'c's use of the Goa'uld fighters and Mitchell comes off as a pretty lame "ace pilot."

 

[BlackLantern]

I guess now that Atlantis is back on Earth, Teal'c and Ronon can have a rematch

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I figured Atlantis would just fly off back to the Pegasus. It's not like the Wraith have been stopped permanently. They just managed to protect Earth from the Wraith's super-Hive.

 

[wiegeabo]

I think Caldwell's mention of the Odyssey might have something to do with Stargate: Universe.

As for the Wraith drug, Todd still hasn't made it work right. It slowly kills all the Wraith or destroys their minds. He only killed himself by letting a Queen Iratis bug feed on him.

 

[BlackLantern]

one of my favorite exchanges

Daniel: They said they are going to have a Mal Doran...

Vala: Am I the judge?

Daniel: No

Vala: Then it's not a real Mal Doran

 

[wiegeabo]

What's that from?

 

[BlackLantern]

I don't recall the name of the episode, but it was when they went to a world who still knew Vala as Qatesh and then some on the planet decided they didn't want to worship what they considered a false god and put her on trial

 

[Gold Samurai]

Spoilers for Stargate Universe's Pilot

http://stargate-sg1-solutions.com/blog/?p=2488

 

[Dr Lee]

not completely sold on SG:U atm....still mifed at the way the announcement was mis-handled.

definately watching the first 3-parter past that...... dunno yet.

 

[BlackLantern]

I will give a show 3 episodes to get me interested....if not then I'll catch it in reruns

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm sure I'll watch it for a while and either be pleasantly surprised or just forget about it and stop following it eventually.

 

[Gold Samurai]

For those that didn't like the wormhole drive or as I like to call it the "plot drive" some bad news



http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com...s-recluse-paul-mullie-answers-your-questions/

A wormhole drive is just that – a drive that sends the ship through a wormhole, like a person stepping through an active gate. The advantage being that you don’t “travel” through hyperspace for hours on end. You get de-molecularized, or whatever you want to call it, and then spit out at the other end a few seconds later. It’s basically instantaneous, which is why I needed it as a device in this episode. Some people have complained that it was a bit of a deus ex-machina, to which I don’t really have much of a defense. At one point, Brad was thinking about using this as a set-up for a similar drive in Stargate Universe, but he’s since changed his mind. But since it IS set up now, Joe and I do intend to use it as part of the story for the Atlantis movie.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Eh, I've long since gotten over the blatant and frequent use of deus ex machinae in Stargate shows.

 

[wiegeabo]

I don't have a problem with them creating a wormhole drive. I just wish they had mentioned it in a prior episode early on in the season. Maybe even showing or describing an example failure to establish how dangerous it is. Wouldn't have been so dues ex.

And the deus ex nature of Stargate has never really bothered me. Although Atlantis has taken it to the next level. Usually in SG-1, they always introduced something first, and then figured out how to adapt it later on at the last minute.

 

[Superfreak]

I don't have a problem with them creating a wormhole drive. I just wish they had mentioned it in a prior episode early on in the season. Maybe even showing or describing an example failure to establish how dangerous it is. Wouldn't have been so dues ex.

And the deus ex nature of Stargate has never really bothered me. Although Atlantis has taken it to the next level. Usually in SG-1, they always introduced something first, and then figured out how to adapt it later on at the last minute.

indeed, SG1 used it, and poked fun at it from time to time. But as you say, atlantis took it to the point where it almost wasn't funny anymore, and just a cheap way to solve a problem without any real narrative effort.

it didn't bother me so much in SG1, but it bothered me a lot more in Atlantis.

 

[wiegeabo]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=51985

Looks like the cast for SG:U is starting to shape up.

 

[PuddleJumper67]

Great clip -- the cast and crew celebrate the 100th episode:

http://stargate.mgm.com/video.php?id=181

 

[BlackLantern]

I watched 'Flesh and Blood' last night....I forget that SG-1 and Stargate Command took a serious spanking from the Ori that season