Stargate SG-1/Atlantis/Universe

[wiegeabo]

Yeah. Cause horrible worse than Soap Opera writing and bad acting from some of the characters could never be the problem people are having with the show. It's just because it's not like other Stargate shows.

Why are you still watching it?

 

[Gilpesh]

Why are you still watching it?

I'm not?

And I'm not allowed to say why I hate the show?

 

[Dr Lee]

Scott is a father who didn't know it until now....that doesn't make him "deadbeat". A deadbeat is someone who knowingly avoids his debts and responsibilities.

I don't see why some think that everything the characters do must be directed only towards getting home. If the only thing any of them ever did or talked about was "I must get home, I must get home"...without knowing why they want to get home, then it would get monotonous. Rush doesn't want to go home...and seems to have nothing on Earth to draw him back.

and he switched where his checks went to just before he left....

Exactly....

 

[SsM]

Yeah. Cause horrible worse than Soap Opera writing and bad acting from some of the characters could never be the problem people are having with the show. It's just because it's not like other Stargate shows.

That too.. Robert Carlyle is way too good for this show.

 

[C. Lee]

That too.. Robert Carlyle is way too good for this show.

I like Carlyle the actor....but can't stand his character on the show. I'm surprised he hasn't lost a few teeth yet.

 

[Dr Lee]

thats why they went for him.... make someone unlikeable... likeable

 

[SsM]

I like Carlyle the actor....but can't stand his character on the show. I'm surprised he hasn't lost a few teeth yet.

I love his character, he was a little off in a couple of episodes but I think he's great.. He's probably my favorite character :/

 

[zanos]

see, for me there was nothing eligntening about Camille. There was nothing special, or different from the other time we saw people talk to their fams (Chloe's experience). The only thing was that it was with a girl... and they didn't even let us see the money shot kiss.


as before: I'm all for character drivin plot lines. But it doesn't seem like this character development is driving any kind of plot... and again, feels like we are having development for development's sake, rather than character development for the narrative's sake.

nothing in this show really feels connected.

The character development is the plot. The show isn't about aliens and space battles, etc. It's about exploring ppl's feelings.

 

[BlackLantern]

**** feelings....I want evil galaxy conquering aliens and people getting shot in the face....did feelings destroy the Ga'ould System Lords, did feelings storm the beach at Normandy, did feelings behead Marie Antoinette....**** no....angry people did

 

[C. Lee]

I love his character, he was a little off in a couple of episodes but I think he's great.. He's probably my favorite character :/

I'm used to self absorbed scientists you always think about the "science" in shows like this....but they have his character screwing with the lives of others in this. If he wants to stay on the ship...stay....but don't keep others from leaving.

 

[C. Lee]

**** feelings....I want evil galaxy conquering aliens and people getting shot in the face....did feelings destroy the Ga'ould System Lords, did feelings storm the beach at Normandy, did feelings behead Marie Antoinette....**** no....angry people did

The problem is...there are a finite number of people that you can shoot in the face. It's been seven episodes and they've already lost what...3 or 4 people?

 

[Dr Lee]

and we have a fair few angry people on board....

 

[Superfreak]

The character development is the plot. The show isn't about aliens and space battles, etc. It's about exploring ppl's feelings.

no duh, but there has to be something that brings it all together. Survival on the ship someone said is the plot that keeps everything together. But the events on earth should provide insight into what is happening on the ship. But neither seems related in anyway (what happening/happened on earth vs. what's happening on the ship).

Matt got caught up with his baby's momma, and Camille had a relaxing vacation. Great, it was mildly interesting: but what does it have to do with what's happening on the ship? Why did tptb show us this stuff? Of what import is it to the narrative? Is there something more to what they've shown us, or is it just a tangent side trip to show that people are sad because they had to leave their lives behind? Why are these insights into their earth lives important? Why these two characters? Simply put, what was the point of watching that stuff? How does it contribute? if it's merely background, and nothing more, then why an entire episode of it?

As for Young, his wife and Telford, that's a little more to the point, as it has to do with struggle over who will be in charge. In this situation, what happens on Earth, is affecting what happens on the ship, and visa versa. It is a part of the story, in the way that it affects both 'realms'.

 

[RetroNaz]

Yeah. Cause horrible worse than Soap Opera writing and bad acting from some of the characters could never be the problem people are having with the show. It's just because it's not like other Stargate shows.

Sheesh, I'm just trying to find out why people don't enjoy the show so much.

I certainly wouldn't say the show is soap opera bad. No way. You're kidding yourself if you think that.

 

[RetroNaz]

and we have a fair few angry people on board....

On the show or in here? lol

 

[Dr Lee]

On the show or in here? lol

Both... though i meant on the ship.

we Sci-fi fans are a passionate bunch aren't we?

 

[RetroNaz]

Both... though i meant on the ship.

we Sci-fi fans are a passionate bunch aren't we?

LOL most certainly. Wouldn't want it any other way!

 

[Gilpesh]

Sheesh, I'm just trying to find out why people don't enjoy the show so much.

Um. You were just saying that they didn't like it because it was SG-1 or Atlantis... yeah, you were trying hard to find out why.

I certainly wouldn't say the show is soap opera bad. No way. You're kidding yourself if you think that.

I'm kidding myself? How many people are ****ing each other on the ship? Or who is not ****ing each other which is the problem for them? Who's ****ing who on earth?

It's soap opera bad.

 

[zanos]

**** feelings....I want evil galaxy conquering aliens and people getting shot in the face....did feelings destroy the Ga'ould System Lords, did feelings storm the beach at Normandy, did feelings behead Marie Antoinette....**** no....angry people did

I'm sure there will be at least a couple of episodes this season where it's pretty action packed.

no duh, but there has to be something that brings it all together. Survival on the ship someone said is the plot that keeps everything together. But the events on earth should provide insight into what is happening on the ship. But neither seems related in anyway (what happening/happened on earth vs. what's happening on the ship).

Matt got caught up with his baby's momma, and Camille had a relaxing vacation. Great, it was mildly interesting: but what does it have to do with what's happening on the ship? Why did tptb show us this stuff? Of what import is it to the narrative? Is there something more to what they've shown us, or is it just a tangent side trip to show that people are sad because they had to leave their lives behind? Why are these insights into their earth lives important? Why these two characters? Simply put, what was the point of watching that stuff? How does it contribute? if it's merely background, and nothing more, then why an entire episode of it?

As for Young, his wife and Telford, that's a little more to the point, as it has to do with struggle over who will be in charge. In this situation, what happens on Earth, is affecting what happens on the ship, and visa versa. It is a part of the story, in the way that it affects both 'realms'.

None of those things has anything at all to do with the ship. It would seem to me that the ship is just a plot device to explore the ppl trapped on it. Sort of like LOST. The trips back to Earth are probably similiar to what they do on that show as well. SGU has yet to introduce flashbacks into everyone's past, but I'm sure they'll make use of it eventually.

 

[RetroNaz]

Um. You were just saying that they didn't like it because it was SG-1 or Atlantis... yeah, you were trying hard to find out why.


I'm kidding myself? How many people are ****ing each other on the ship? Or who is not ****ing each other which is the problem for them? Who's ****ing who on earth?

It's soap opera bad.

I was suggesting that was part of the problem. Not THE problem. My further posts I was trying to establish why people were having issues with the show, even going as far as to get people to come up with a list of 3 things they would change on the show if they could. Keep the sarcasm out of it mate, it's not a contest to see who can be the wittiest poster.

Yes you can share your comments and views and dislikes for a show that you don't even apparently watch or like. But you don't have to be sarcastic about it at the expense of my views just to get your point across. Understood?

Yes, you are kidding yourself.

 

[Gilpesh]

I was saying that was part of the problem. Not THE problem.

It really isn't part of the problem. People are open to new things... but when the new things suck, it's not that it's new is part of it.

Keep the sarcasm out of it mate, it's not a contest to see how can be the wittiest poster.

I see. Cause it's not like you're going to call me a moron.

Yes you can share your comments and views and dislikes for a show that you don't even apparently watch or like.

Um. Have you not seen any of my posts in this thread? I've watched the show, wanted to like the show, and ended up not liking the show as it is horrible.

But you don't have to being a sarcastic moron about it just to get your point across. Understood?

I take back the bit about seeing your point about the 'wittest poster' comment.

Yes, you are kidding yourself.

Wait, you just called me a moron because you can't see how SGU is just a bad soap opera... and I'm the one kidding myself?

 

[RetroNaz]

It really isn't part of the problem. People are open to new things... but when the new things suck, it's not that it's new is part of it.


I see. Cause it's not like you're going to call me a moron.


Um. Have you not seen any of my posts in this thread? I've watched the show, wanted to like the show, and ended up not liking the show as it is horrible.


I take back the bit about seeing your point about the 'wittest poster' comment.


Wait, you just called me a moron because you can't see how SGU is just a bad soap opera... and I'm the one kidding myself?

Right, fine. You win. Very good.

I like SGU, you don't.

Moving along.

Edit: and damn you for quoting my post before I had edited it after seeing it was a bit harsh lol

 

[Gilpesh]

Moving along.

Wait. I thought you were trying to find out why people don't like it?

I just told you, it's a bad soap opera. They have a huge Ancient spaceship around them.... and it's all about how Eli isn't hooking up with Chloe who's hooking up with Scott who hooked up with James who is probably hooking up with someone else who definitely hooked up with the other guy who might be tapping that doctor who tapped Young who is tapping his wife in another guy's body who is now trying to tap the wife who's favorite movie star is KEVIN BACON!

 

[RetroNaz]

Wait. I thought you were trying to find out why people don't like it?

I just told you, it's a bad soap opera. They have a huge Ancient spaceship around them.... and it's all about how Eli isn't hooking up with Chloe who's hooking up with Scott who hooked up with James who is probably hooking up with someone else who definitely hooked up with the other guy who might be tapping that doctor who tapped Young who is tapping his wife in another guy's body who is now trying to tap the wife who's favorite movie star is KEVIN BACON!

Let me clarify...moving along from the back and fourth between you and I about the he said/she said stuff.

I hate reading it in other threads, and certainly don't want to be part of it.

I respect your views

 

[Flash Facts]

I have never watched any of the Stargate series but have been somewhat interested. So I figured I'd ask some questions before I decide if I should jump in.

How much of the other shows tie into SGU? Do I need to have seen them to be caught up? Does watching them add alot to this new series?

I heard SGU seems to be going for a similar feel to the Battlestar series, Do you find this to be true? How?