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Superfreak said:
Mitchell is all Landry's got. Sam's not there, Jack is gone, Teal'c is gone. Landry has a choice between Daniel and Mitchell. Mitchell is trained, Daniel is a civilian. There is no one else for Landry to turn to when in need of some off world humping.

I think Mitchell will be cool, once they finally get him to do something worthy of his position as second command of the mountain

Just because we dont see them too much doesnt mean there arent more experienced people that Landry really should turn to. Whoever is commanding SG2 at the moment would make a lot more sense for example.
 
Happenstance said:
Just because we dont see them too much doesnt mean there arent more experienced people that Landry really should turn to. Whoever is commanding SG2 at the moment would make a lot more sense for example.

the secondary commanders have never been all that useful, except for holding the gate, which they've never done very well.

Once the Daniel and Vala show ends, we'll get back to some character establishment. That's my opinion. But I think it's a fair assumption. I think it's also fair to say that we will get a mitchell centric episode in the near future (before the summer run of season nine ends).

I agree with you that he just seems like some dude dropped into the show... but he's new, and like all new characters, especially in a show that has had an established cast for 9 years, they need room to flesh him out a bit. There've only been 4 epis so far, 3 of which were the premier. Patience I say (season 7 taught me this, nothing happened the whole season, NOTHING, but it all payed off in the end)
 
I still think that depending on a guy who had only been off world once or twice just doesnt seem right and the only reason that the other SG teams were never really shown to do much was because O'Neill always took command and had SG1 do all the work. On their own missions im betting they are just as good otherwise they never would have been chosen.

I know your trying to get me to be patient with Mitchell and to be honest your doing a good job explaining it but I really really dont see myself liking this guy. There have been too many bad character points shown about him and the reliance on him straight away (granted its a writing fault not his) wont work with me and unfortunately will make the show itself less believable. (and no telling me its a sci-fi show and most of the stuff on there isnt real, I already know that! :P )
 
The thing about Mitchell is that he has.
a)Command experience
b)Stroke with the higher ups (O'Neill has this too)

The SGC is a military organization basically. It means that someone with command experience and a good reacord with the proper training can get leadership of a flag ship team like SG-1. Landry for what ever reason trusts Mitchell. He can in theory get the job done, he took the SGC training course like everone else.
 
I understand fully why he's got command of SG1, thats not my problem really (although i dont like him so i guess it is a problem :P ).
Its just that he is a lieutenant colonel and I dont know whos commanding the other SG units anymore but it used to be colonels who have had a lot more experience than Mitchell. Just because he's done the training doesnt mean he's the most qualified.

Anyway im going to end this rant about Mitchell as I seem to be alone in disliking him and I dont want to take over the thread with me moaning and people defending him.


Should be good getting Carter back next week, get the team finished off. Im also looking forward to the explanation of why Teal'c returns fulltime, obviously it will have something to do with the Jaffa power struggle thats been going on in the council
 
Your not entirely alone. Right now I think Mitchell is just OKAY. The early season is focusing on Daniel & Vala & is not giving Mitchell any room. He definitely needs some good episodes so us fans can get to like this character more. Maybe some more kinda stranded on base thing where he takes command or something. All I know is he needs to be doing ALOT more stuff. I can't wait to get this Daniel & Vala thing out of the way. Don't get me wrong I enjoy the 2 character's interaction with each other but it is WAY TO EARLY in the season to have episodes dedicated to them. I feel the show creators should have given Mitchell a fair early chance to try & shine with the fans & Michael needs to get rid of that damn beard on his face. I prefer his Season 7 look with no glasses no beard nothing.
 
Happenstance said:
I understand fully why he's got command of SG1, thats not my problem really (although i dont like him so i guess it is a problem :P ).
Its just that he is a lieutenant colonel and I dont know whos commanding the other SG units anymore but it used to be colonels who have had a lot more experience than Mitchell. Just because he's done the training doesnt mean he's the most qualified.
The only bird colonel (so called because the insignia for a full colonel in the US is an eagle) in the SGC was O'Neill that I knew of. The other SG teams were lead by majors or light colonels like Mitchell and Carter. As for being qualified again it's the military, the show is advised by the USAF. A brainiac like Carter wouldn't be trusted (completely) by the airforce brass like Landry, Hammond, or even O'Neill to lead an SG team.
 
Well this weeks is the last ep with Vala (unless they decide to bring her back). It'll be a shame to see her leave coz the relationship between her and Daniel was great and even though it basically took over the episodes shown so far it could have worked as a side story aswell.
Seeing the spoiler pictures for tomorrows ep im suprised that theyve allowed Vala to use a P90

As for other Colonels the only one that comes to mind at the moment was Colonel Makepeace, according to gateworlds bio on him he was basically 3rd in command of the SGC and a full colonel. Granted he's gone now but I just thought id throw that in.

Also again im not debating that Mitchell shouldnt be allowed to lead an SG team over Carter. The one point that sticks out in my head as him being called there for no reason was when Vala originally came back, there was no need for him there and would have made a lot more sense if Landry had called Daniel to the gateroom.

But as I said before im done with this, I can accept that he is 2nd in command of the SGC due to him leading SG1. I just stick with the fact that there are a lot more qualified people to be called apon when something is needed.
 
Go Siler and his big wrench!!!

(That sounded a lot less dodgy in my head!)
 
Happenstance said:
Well this weeks is the last ep with Vala (unless they decide to bring her back). It'll be a shame to see her leave coz the relationship between her and Daniel was great and even though it basically took over the episodes shown so far it could have worked as a side story aswell.
Seeing the spoiler pictures for tomorrows ep im suprised that theyve allowed Vala to use a P90

As for other Colonels the only one that comes to mind at the moment was Colonel Makepeace, according to gateworlds bio on him he was basically 3rd in command of the SGC and a full colonel. Granted he's gone now but I just thought id throw that in.
Actually Makepeace was(is?) a light colonel. Hammond called him a LT. Colonel on several occasions.
 
Im just going by what I read in his profile and what I remember, I only ever remember Colonel Makepeace none Lt. Colonel
 
Heres a little bit of Stargate info I didnt know before now. O'Neills first name is actually Jonathon, also didnt know that Jack was short for Jonathon in the states

From what I know aswell the debate still goes on about if the J. initial is actually for Jack or if it could be a subtle simpsons reference (id prefer it to be the simpsons reference myself :P )

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Actually Jack is a nick name for Jonathan/Jonothan and John. For instance JFK was named John Fitzjerald Kennedy but his nick name was Jack. And as for Makepeace Hammond only called him LT. Colonel once or twice. But his combat unifrom, which you see him in quite a bit as he's a US marine, had a black oak leaf symbol on it. That is yankee for LT. Colonel, as a full colonel would have been a black coloured eagle.
 
Oh as I said I dont care about that stuff we were going on about before and when I said I didnt know Jack was a nickname for Johnathon I didnt meant that it wasnt a nickname for the rest of the versions of the name that you pointed out.
 
Going by next week's preview

CARTER IS BACK but god her hair cut for this season is BLEH :down
 
Right that was quite a good episode but what really annoyed me was the fact that they didnt explain why Teal'c was there! He is no longer a member of SG1 so I dont want to see them just throwing him in each episode with no explanation why.

Looking at that preview Carters hair isnt that short at all, for her character its one of the longer versions
 
Too bad this is Valla's last episode. She is easily the most interesting character on this show. I really haven't missed Carter or Jack one bit.
 
MvTrlrMsc said:
Going by next week's preview

CARTER IS BACK but god her hair cut for this season is BLEH :down
I agree, I don't like the crazy, ruffled look of her hair this season. I wish they'd just go back to the simple style of seasons 1 and 2. Same for Daniel. I don't like that whole rugged, unkempt look he's been sporting for the past few seasons. Comb your hair like you've got some PhD's, man!
 
Well, I would like him to go for the professor look myself, and that would require some combing indeed.

Switching gears for a second, Ronon Dex needs some serious character developement. Teal'c kinda did the silent warrior thing for 4 or 5 seasons and it could've worked back then but it ain't working for me now! I'd like him to be more then just the token "cool rough guy" character.
 
I'm guessing he's just temporary. Either way the character he replaced was hardly any better.
 
I dont think so, he seems like the hate or love character and those never go away because they bring ratings! I could really like him, if it wasnt so obvious that theyre trying to make me like him.

BTW, sorry about the spelling, this is a romanian keyboard and instead of apostrophes I got these things ş ă î ţ â. :down
 
Dex is going to be developed in future episodes. One in particular seems to feature him and his past heavily, judging from the spoilers and images I've seen. I like Dex just fine, though. He's a pretty simple character at the moment, but every character on an ongoing TV show eventually develops layers. It's almost inevitable.

As for Ford, I'm looking forward to where his story goes. He was almost completely wasted in season 1, so it's nice that he's getting a more interesting story this time, even if it does pull him away from the team. The actor is doing a great job portraying all of his neuroses, too.
 
Ive never been a big fan of Atlantis, I still watch it just to keep up but I dont think it compares to SG1.
Saying that though the Dex character could have some promise as long as his character is developed properly. I think its interesting what they are doing with Ford, the only problem is I hate his fuzzy hair :P. He was ok when he wore his cap but now he wont be so it'll wind me up when i see him :P.

Again on Atlantis Conner Trinneer (Trip in Enterprise) has been cast in an upcoming episode of Atlantis. Im quite happy about that, Trip was the only character that was interesting in Enterprise so its good to see Trinneer in another show.
 
Hey, Ford's upgraded from the cap to a bandana now. Everybody knows that bandanas make people look a thousand times cooler. Just look at Daniel from the earlier seasons. ;)

I only saw a few episodes of Enterprise, but I did like Trip in those few eps. I'm looking forward to what he does with the part, which sounds quite interesting from some of the spoilers I've read.

I'm really looking forward to Carter's return tomorrow. Woohoo!
 
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