State of Emergency: Baltimore Edition

[Erzengel]

I'm kinda upset that they are taking all those delicious doritos.

 

[Victarion]

That lion hoax was funny. I heard them calling it in on the police scanners.

 

[Breogan]

Did she really say this?

Has she heard his rhetoric?
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Is this why the police hands were tied to just receive rocks and bottles?
So the Nation of Islam could "keep the calm and peace"?
Nice job!

 

[KevanG]

Boy that mayor really isn't doing a great job right now.

 

[Kar]

We're mad at idiots destroying the city in which they live because they have a flimsy excuse to do so. It's not about the cops now, it's about ****heads going on a rampage.

Fair, I don't agree with the destruction of the property but can you point out the flimsy excuse for me please?

 

[KevanG]

Because they just want to destroy things and loot the city? I can't imagine most of the people doing this have any reason for doing so beyond 'I'm one of thousands looting everything. They won't catch me. I can do what I want." A very small amount of them likely have a good grievance against the city and the police to be this angry but for the rest it's just an excuse to act like animals.

 

[Kar]

Boy that mayor really isn't doing a great job right now.

At all.

 

[Victarion]

Fair, I don't agree with the destruction of the property but can you point out the flimsy excuse for me please?

Protesting the death of Gray by starting fires and destroying property. I'd been following this last night on the scanners and various livestreams. Not a person was interested in Gray's death. They were all talking about the jackasses that drove a stolen car through the flames, looting liquor stores, burning down that senior center, and the burnings in general. Protesting his death is a flimsy excuse for their behavior because the spectacle overshadows the reason for some of the protestors' discontent.

 

[KevanG]

And how the **** does looting liquor stores and burning down a seniors centre have anything to do with protesting someones death? The only excuse for any of that is that they wanted to because they are *******s.

 

[Kar]

Because they just want to destroy things and loot the city? I can't imagine most of the people doing this have any reason for doing so beyond 'I'm one of thousands looting everything. They won't catch me. I can do what I want." A very small amount of them likely have a good grievance against the city and the police to be this angry but for the rest it's just an excuse to act like animals.

There are definitely people in there taking advantage of the chaos. No doubt about that. What I'm asking is where is this same outrage for the actual PEOPLE of these communities that aren't acting out by looting, that are getting killed by police or abused by officers? Because that is where all of this is stemming from, at the end of the day, if people wanna discuss the root of the problem.

 

[Victarion]

Gray's the only one I've heard of.

 

[Kar]

And how the **** does looting liquor stores and burning down a seniors centre have anything to do with protesting someones death? The only excuse for any of that is that they wanted to because they are *******s.

Was it confirmed that the senior center was because of the rioting? I read it turned out that it wasn't related and was due to construction work but I could be mistaken. If you can show me a link, that'd be great (just to clear it up).

 

[Kar]

Gray's the only one I've heard of.

I don't mean specifically Baltimore in recent weeks, this is a problem that's all over the US that a race of people feel affected by. Some of its build up frustration, some of it is just opportunists looking to take advantage of stuff but that doesn't mean they're any less upset over the police brutality.

 

[warhorse78]

You all are more mad at the people for destroying public property than you all are mad at the police for killing civilians.

Cops kill an unarmed person (I want to say black, but I'm just gonna say "person" to spare myself the "what about other races that are killed by the police?" questions) and all over the board its "eh, it was an accident" "its not a race thing" "moving on" but the minute a store gets looted now everyone wants to speak up.

I do not agree with the looting at all but that's the least of the worries at hand.

What about the "two wrongs don't make a right!"

Hey, a 2 year old baby girl was gunned down in my city by a drive by shooting, where are all of the protests against a truly innocent little girl falling victim to senseless violence????? Huh?? Why riot over an idiot who has a rap sheet, but not riot for the little baby getting killed? It's just as much the police fault as it is the nut job that pulled the trigger, due to them not wanting to get more involved with the gang violence.

Why does this precious Black life not matter as much as the guy getting gunned down by the police????? Doesn't sell enough headlines for the papers or media? Doesn't fit certain people's agendas???

 

[KevanG]

Was it confirmed that the senior center was because of the rioting? I read it turned out that it wasn't related and was due to construction work but I could be mistaken. If you can show me a link, that'd be great (just to clear it up).

I watched the news last night and they insinuated that it was directly caused by rioters but haven't said anything since.

 

[Kar]

What about the "two wrongs don't make a right!"

Hey, a 2 year old baby girl was gunned down in my city by a drive by shooting, where are all of the protests against a truly innocent little girl falling victim to senseless violence????? Huh?? Why riot over an idiot who has a rap sheet, but not riot for the little baby getting killed? It's just as much the police fault as it is the nut job that pulled the trigger, due to them not wanting to get more involved with the gang violence.

Why does this precious Black life not matter as much as the guy getting gunned down by the police????? Doesn't sell enough headlines for the papers or media? Doesn't fit certain people's agendas???

If you want protests then why don't you go out there and organize them instead of asking where they are, especially if you care so much about the child' life? Go ask your police what they are doing to find the guys who did it

I'm not saying her death is not important. It's definitely something to be upset about. So go do something about it. Here's your chance to do a peaceful protest against violence.

 

[Kar]

I watched the news last night and they insinuated that it was directly caused by rioters but haven't said anything since.

Oh okay. An article I read said officials were still investigating what caused it, I think it was people they interviewed that made the claims that it was from the rioting though. All speculation though, just saying.

 

[warhorse78]

If you want protests then why don't you go out there and organize them instead of asking where they are, especially if you care so much about the child' life? Go ask your police what they are doing to find the guys who did it

I'm not saying her death is not important. It's definitely something to be upset about. So go do something about it. Here's your chance to do a peaceful protest against violence.

What makes you think I haven't. The local pastor is trying to get a gathering, but not too many people showed up. Like I said, it's not fitting their agenda.

 

[Godzilla2000]

You know, it seems like the young, black community turns to violence when these things happen. They are an insult to all their relatives that stood peacefully and let their peaceful protests speak more clearly than all the violence and destruction they're committing.

 

[chamber-music]

Because they just want to destroy things and loot the city? I can't imagine most of the people doing this have any reason for doing so beyond 'I'm one of thousands looting everything. They won't catch me. I can do what I want." A very small amount of them likely have a good grievance against the city and the police to be this angry but for the rest it's just an excuse to act like animals.

This

The same thing with the London Riots a few years ago. The people out looting and causing destruction were not there to protest. People were taking advantage of the lack of law enforcement to commit crime.

You look at almost any place in the world where the rule of law breaks down and there tends to be people who come out and do these kind of things.

Unfortunately people are going to overlook the real grievances people may have with the semi recurring incidents of black men being killed in questionable circumstances because of these morons out to hijack protests to commit crime

 

[craigdbfan]

The inner violence within these communities is a far bigger issue than these isolated incidents of police brutality. Especially when most of these guys dropping dead have a huge rap sheet following them. What do people expect when the police encounters a dangerous criminal.

Things will end up going sour pretty quickly.

 

[chamber-music]

Not every suspect killed has proven to be a violent offender or a danger to the public. Not every interaction may necessarily needed lethal force depending on how the situation is approached. Police officers are human beings but so are suspects and innocent until proven guilty cuts both ways.

Violence in the communities as well as police relations need to be addressed. Some areas have proved better at dealing with theses problems than others. Baltimore from what I understand hasn't dealt well with community relations which is why these things tend to flare up and create a complete lack of trust between a population and the police force that are there to protect & serve. The breakdown between the police and some of these communities has made things worst.

 

[Kar]

What makes you think I haven't. The local pastor is trying to get a gathering, but not too many people showed up. Like I said, it's not fitting their agenda.

Apologies, I wasn't aware. I really do wish you all the best of luck with that, as I don't want to get into a discussion of picking out the lesser of two evils here.

You know, it seems like the young, black community turns to violence when these things happen. They are an insult to all their relatives that stood peacefully and let their peaceful protests speak more clearly than all the violence and destruction they're committing.

I wouldn't go as far as to say that they're an insult. And peaceful protesting isn't received that well either apparently, because when people were marching a few months ago (just marching, not being violent) there were people calling them idiots and complaining that they were wasting their times and blocking the streets.

 

[Kar]

Not every suspect killed has proven to be a violent offender or a danger to the public. Not every interaction may necessarily needed lethal force depending on how the situation is approached. Police officers are human beings but so are suspects and innocent until proven guilty cuts both ways.

Violence in the communities as well as police relations need to be addressed. The breakdown between the police and some of these communities is what isn't improving things.

Right. People keep bringing up rap sheets as if that's a grounds for them to get killed by police.

Is Freddie Gray a dangerous criminal because he's been arrested for selling drugs? A criminal, yes, dangerous? We can't assume that about him. If he was such a dangerous criminal I think the police would have tried to lock him away years ago or something.

 

[Rocketman]

My opinion? I don't think we're far from this being the norm all over the place. We are so close. Something much bigger could spark any day.