Superman Lives or Jodorowsky's Dune

[Deck Rickard]

Both of these (unmade) films have been the subject of speculation over the years and fascinating documentaries. Both seem to have been potential masterpieces or can’t-look-away-from-this-trainwreck disasters. If you could transport yourself to alternate universes where each of these films exist, which one would YOU pick?

I think I would have to go with Superman Lives. Nic Cage in a big red S is just too tempting to pass up.

 

[BeserkerHilf]

My morbid curiosity, without hesitation, says Superman Lives.

 

[Prison Mike]

Definitely Superman Lives!

 

[Deck Rickard]

If I remember right, wasn’t Michael Keaton’s Batman supposed to cameo in SL too?

 

[Erik20]

Superman Lives. It would probably be terrible, but maybe after that Superman would get a reboot like Batman Begins. (We needed Batman & Robin for that to happen)

 

[AndrewGilkison]

If I remember right, wasn’t Michael Keaton’s Batman supposed to cameo in SL too?

The Kevin Smith draft does have a Batman cameo in it, but that was before Burton got hired to direct and none of the scripts written during his time on it have a Batman cameo in it.

 

[Deck Rickard]

The Kevin Smith draft does have a Batman cameo in it, but that was before Burton got hired to direct and none of the scripts written during his time on it have a Batman cameo in it.

Ah, okay thanks. Guess the Keaton thing was just a BS rumor then.

 

[Captain Tired]

I'm only casually interested in Dune, whereas I'm a huge fan of both Superman AND Nic Cage.

Superman Lives all the way.

 

[Breogan]

Jodo's Dune.
Burton's Superman seems mundane compared to the insane (unseen at the time) vision that would have been Dune.
Cast: David Carradine, Mick Jagger, Salvador Dali, Gloria Swanson, Geraldine Chaplin, Alain Delon, Udo Kier, Amanda Lear, to the baso-voiced Orson Wells, as the dark clad father killing main antagonist and ancestor to the hero... (yes originally Lucas wanted him for Vader)
That his phone-book sized story-boards and visual concept book, designs by Chriss Foss, Jean Giraud impact on Franco-Sci-Fi, Dan O'Bannon visual /special effects and tone, to H. R. Giger, was passed around every studio in Hollywood influencing the look and tone of sci-fi going forward..
A 12 hr experiance spanning several days (think Des Nibelungen 4 day opera cycle), with a track by then Dark Side of the Moon era Pink Floyd.
While a complete betrayal of the novels and affront to common senses, Jodo's Dune still would have been a bizarre, mesmerizing, zeitgeist altering phenomena.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Dune. Superman Lives would have just been a subpar 90s CBM, but that version of Dune would have been bonkers! Like having another Zardoz or something.

 

[3rdstone]

Jodo's Dune.
Burton's Superman seems mundane compared to the insane (unseen at the time) vision that would have been Dune.
Cast: David Carradine, Mick Jagger, Salvador Dali, Gloria Swanson, Udo Kier, Amanda Lear, to a SW parallel dark clad father killing main antagonist ancestor, originally imagined as the baso-voiced Orson Wells.
That his phone-book sized story-boards and visual concept book, designs by Chriss Foss, Jean Giraud impact on Franco-Sci-Fi, Dan O'Bannon visual /special effects and tone, to H. R. Giger, was passed around every studio influencing the look and tone of sci-fi going forward..
A several day spanning 12 hr experience, (think Des Nibelungen 4 day opera cycle), with a track by The Dark Side of the Moon era Pink Floyd, would have been a bizarre, absolutely mesmerizing, zeitgeist altering phenomena.

I recently watched Jodorowsky's Dune, the documentary. And I agree; All of this sounds so totally mind boggling, and I want it injected in my veins now. I mean: Moebious, Chris Foss, Dan O'Bannon and Pink Floyd TDSOTM era engaged in the same movie.. And with Dali, Udo Kier, Gloria Swanson, Mick Jagger etc in the cast. Would it be a great movie: Who knows, it seems that the length itself could be a turn off for many people, and who knows how good or laughable the over all acting would be and if the script would work.

Maybe the Nic Cage Superman flick would be better (or less bad?), but I sure as hell would rather see the final result of this crazy super ambitous project by Jodorowsky on a big screen no matter how disastrious it might've turned out.

 

[3rdstone]

Dune. Superman Lives would have just been a subpar 90s CBM, but that version of Dune would have been bonkers! Like having another Zardoz or something.

Exactly! We all would love to see Nic as Superman, but that story wouldn' t still match the totally bonkers craziness that Jodorowsky were bringing.

 

[Weather Witch]

Guess I'll vote for neither. Superman Lives probably wouldn't have fared that well. For Dune, having a second adaptation that is a financial disaster (albeit probably a very interesting one) probably would've prevented DV's Dune.

 

[Drizzle]

Superman Lives, no contest. I've already seen two versions of Dune but I've never seen Nic Cage's crazy ass play Superman.

 

[Marvolo]

Id rather see Ridley Scott's Dune that he was going to make in 1982.

Guess I'll vote for neither. Superman Lives probably wouldn't have fared that well. For Dune, having a second adaptation that is a financial disaster (albeit probably a very interesting one) probably would've prevented DV's Dune.

Jodorowsky's Dune, had it been made, would have been the first and only adaption. It preceeded Ridley Scott's doomed adaption by a decade, and Lynch only got to make his adaption because Ridley Scott backed out when Dino De Laurentiis wanted the film shot in Mexico.

On the other hand, had Scott not backed out of Dune he might never have made Blade Runner.

 

[Weather Witch]

Jodorowsky's Dune, had it been made, would have been the first and only adaption. It preceeded Ridley Scott's doomed adaption by a decade, and Lynch only got to make his adaption because Ridley Scott backed out when Dino De Laurentiis wanted the film shot in Mexico.

Yep, I got the timeline wrong there. Still think it probably would've been a very interesting disaster if released though.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I'd rather watch Superman Lives, because this is where I stand

I'm only casually interested in Dune, whereas I'm a huge fan of both Superman AND Nic Cage.

Not as big a fan of Nic Cage as Bruce is.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Ridley Scott would have probably made an interesting Dune. I know the technology wasn’t there yet but I feel like Ridley would have been able to work around the limitations. Blade Runner’s visual still hold up well.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Superman Lives, because we'd just throw it onto the already sizeable pile of terrible DC movies. Jodo's Dune would have been so pornographically terrible they would likely never even attempt to turn Dune into a film or TV miniseries ever again.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Superman Lives, because we'd just throw it onto the already sizeable pile of terrible DC movies. Jodo's Dune would have been so pornographically terrible they would likely never even attempt to turn Dune into a film or TV miniseries ever again.

Yeah, wasn’t there supposedly a scene where Rabban and his men publicly crap all over a battlefield?

 

[Pink Ranger]

Yeah, wasn’t there supposedly a scene where Rabban and his men publicly crap all over a battlefield?

Yes, and then there were also some bad ideas too.