Superman VS the Hulk

[X]

I was with you up until the whole skull fragments killing the Hulk thing, Breck. I dont care who's skull fragments they are...there not going to kill the Hulk...

 

[narsal]

ok if superman is soo weak why does he kick everones ass in all books he is in real books by both companies

 

[X]

Superman isnt weak, and it's called a popularity contest. In one match they had, the fans decided. In any other case, it pretty much comes down to Supes popularity. I mean, really. Just one thing the company's look at, how many millions of kids idolize/love/look up to Superman? Do you think it's going to be good for sales to have a 1,200 pound monster beat him into a pulp? Superman is just so much more commerical, so much more popular, and it's not like The Hulk is alone. Superman beat Thor as well. I dont think we're ever going to have a decent Superman vs. a Marvel character match up. Well, I can think of one. They did a one shot back in 1998, The Hulk vs. Superman, and the Hulk won the first time they met up in that comic. Too bad everyone always refer's to Marvel vs. DC when it comes to these things. And If we always depended on the fans vote's we would have Wolverine and Spidey taking down The Living Tribunal on a regular basis...

 

[Cracker Jack]

Originally posted by Breck
The Hulk would just start whispering really low and when Superman uses his super-hearing the Hulk would do a sonic clap and Superman's head would explode. Unfortunately, fragments from his skull would rocket through the Hulk's eye socket and into his brain, killing him instantly.

Draw.

LOL that was good! But you're wrong. The Hulks healing ability would kick in and there ya have it. Sups is dead and all is well. If you're the Hulk that is!

 

[narsal]

ok assume it is a fight to the death a you all seem to think then Superman picks up the Hulk and shoves him into space at super speed the hulk can not stop that he has only human reflexs so now we have a fight in 0 grav. there the Hulk can t do squawt next a billion or so near light speed punchs to the head from one who laughs at Hydrogen bombs which can kill the hulk(and if you do not take my word for it remember the Maestro was killed this way and he was the strongest Hulk incarnation ).now that the hulk has taken a pummeling at super speed Superman just tosses the lifeless body of this strange monster into the core of the sun about 9 mins later as the body of the hulk vaporises in the photosphere this angry Superman flies off vs

 

[Guyverjay]

Originally posted by narsal
ok assume it is a fight to the death a you all seem to think then Superman picks up the Hulk and shoves him into space at super speed the hulk can not stop that he has only human reflexs so now we have a fight in 0 grav. there the Hulk can t do squawt next a billion or so near light speed punchs to the head from one who laughs at Hydrogen bombs which can kill the hulk(and if you do not take my word for it remember the Maestro was killed this way and he was the strongest Hulk incarnation ).now that the hulk has taken a pummeling at super speed Superman just tosses the lifeless body of this strange monster into the core of the sun about 9 mins later as the body of the hulk vaporises in the photosphere this angry Superman flies off vs

1)Hulk s reflexs are alot faster than a humans, he has caught jet fighters and snagged the silver surfer from his board

2)Some oe already tried to carry hulk off ito space at super speed and and just as they guy to te upper atmosspehere hulk thunderclaped him right in the temples. Imagine what that would do to superman with his super heariing.

3) It was a GAMMA bomb not a hydrogen bomb. a HUGE difference

4)The maestro didn't actually die

5) This isn't a fight to the death

6) Name ONE comic where superman has hit someone with a billion punches

7) Why doesn't he ever do this to Doomsday?

8) It would take alot more than 9 minutes for the hulk's body to get to the sun


All that said I beileve thats super speed is supes trump card, thats the ONLY reason why he could beat hulk in a fight.

 

[narsal]

1) his speed is still so much slower than than superman that he might as well be standing still 2)well at near light speed he would have less than one second to act and superman cant be hurt by sound ?(and as it is a near vacum it will not work anyway) 3)ok so what gamma bomb was just a highly radioactive bomb like the neutron bomb 4)he is dead read the book vapor trail and dust 5)well everone keeps acting like it is so i shall as well 6)any time he uses superspeed he can and has in many books 7)he tried but doomsday is also from krypton and so was on an equal footing but he did try 8)well if he would use his superspeed as i have him doing through this the hulk would be traveling just under light speed and since light takes a little more than 8 mins to reach earth fromm the sun well thats that

 

[X]

A 1,200 pound monster smashing his hands together point blank is going to hurt just about anything...do you even know just how powerful his thunder clap is???

The Gamma Bomb was created to make Nuclear Weapons look like fire crackers...

The Maestro did come back...

And The Hulk has batted Pre-Crisis Superman out of Metropolis with a single punch before...and you should read The Superman vs. The Hulk 98' one shot if you want to see a realalistic potrayal of a matchup between the two. The Hulk beats the **** out of him the first time they meet...Superman also said himself he had a very hard time with The Professor, the weakest incarnation of The Hulk. He didnt even knock The Professor out either, he incapacitated him for a couple of seconds and got the win. And dont even bring up The Hulk hitting Superman and him not moving. The same thing happened when Doomsday punched him for the first time, he didnt even budge. But as the fight went out, Superman was beaten down,and eventually killed, he himself proclaimed "the more we fight the harder he seems to hit/more he seems to like it. The Hulk operates the exact same way...

 

[Guyverjay]

Originally posted by narsal
1) his speed is still so much slower than than superman that he might as well be standing still

True but than so are a helluva lot characters that superman still gets hit by


2)well at near light speed he would have less than one second to act and superman cant be hurt by sound ?(and as it is a near vacum it will not work anyway)

Near a vacuum is not the same as in a vacuum, one second is all hulk needs to thunderclap him and sound DOES hurt superman, ask Nightwing


3)ok so what gamma bomb was just a highly radioactive bomb like the neutron bomb

Er no the gamma bomb made a normal nuke look like a firework that was the whole point in its invention.


4)he is dead read the book vapor trail and dust

Wrong the maestro came back by syphoning off hulks gamma radiation each time he traveled home


5)well everone keeps acting like it is so i shall as well

great argument


6)any time he uses superspeed he can and has in many books

Name one,come on name one where is has used a BILLION punches per second


7)he tried but doomsday is also from krypton and so was on an equal footing but he did try

Bollocks he tried. What he tried to do was have a slug fest with doomsday and got killed. he also tried his flying up into the sky trick and doomsday was having none of it. Even in hunter prey I never saw any attempt to fly doomsday into outer space and any of this billion punches per second nonsense. Yes DD is of kryptonian origin but there powers are not the same. DD can't even fly

8)well if he would use his superspeed as i have him doing through this the hulk would be traveling just under light speed and since light takes a little more than 8 mins to reach earth fromm the sun well thats that

Yeah becauee hulk is just going to stand there and let superman take him to the sun.
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[narsal]

its comics realism does not enter superman fought the hulk and has beat him every time they have meet this was written by both companies and that is all we as readers can say no matter what we want superman is strongest accept it and move on

 

[Guyverjay]

Originally posted by narsal
its comics realism does not enter superman fought the hulk and has beat him every time they have meet this was written by both companies and that is all we as readers can say no matter what we want superman is strongest accept it and move on

are you ******ed? serious question.

The fight was VOTED for by the comic readers. Superman is more popular than the hulk and thus was voted to win. Both companies decided NOTHING... GET IT?

Wolverine was VOTED to beat Lobo thats why HE won. We all kow that lobo would beat wolverine in 10 seconds flat

 

[Grey]

ok.... Superman vs Hulk.....


nobody wins.
This is a ploy by Marvel and DC to get your money....

What we really need is a good fight written REALISTICLY ( in comics) ...and drawn in an awsome style.( of course i can't do either so...)


page one SPLASH

ext. Metroplis day rush hour

page 2 panel 1

ext.(same) zoom in on an awesome sports car stuck on the freeway...

pg2 pnl 3

con. zoom.

pg 2 pnl 4

int. sports car
radio" its a hot one today in the big Met, and after another attack by some alien invaders, we're all ready for a big cool down....This just in ...oh no....not again....(whispers) its the third time today...."

pg 3 pnl 1

ext skys over Met. twenty milliatry jets soar towards the city
"... They're tracking a large creature....it could be Doomsday....good luck...

pg 3 pnl 2

ext. sky Met Super man stops mid air ( hero shot ) and looks towrad the distance

pg 4 pnl 3
" Superman !"

I'm bored....i'll finish later....and post it on my site...http://www.spookzone.com

 

[X]

Good job Grey, and yes, Iv conclusivly come to the decison that narsal is ******ed. Just look at a couple other of his post's and im sure you'll agree 100%. And I dont know why no one knows this, but a good Hulk vs. Superman comic was written a few years back, it was called The Hulk vs. Superman, and it was a one shot, written in 98'. The Hulk beats Superman the first time they meet, and pretty much goes toe to toe with him the second time around, but knows he cant beat The Hulk in a straight out slug fest so he resorts to his other powes. Superman himself was amazed by the power and speed of the creature...Some people just cant see past the train wreck that was Marvel vs. DC all the while saying "Superman is the greatest!!! He would punch The Hulk a billion times in the face in one second and then throw him into the sun!!! And thats it!!! " I rest my case...

 

[Guyverjay]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Good job Grey, and yes, Iv conclusivly come to the decison that narsal is ******ed. Just look at a couple other of his post's and im sure you'll agree 100%. And I dont know why no one knows this, but a good Hulk vs. Superman comic was written a few years back, it was called The Hulk vs. Superman, and it was a one shot, written in 98'. The Hulk beats Superman the first time they meet, and pretty much goes toe to toe with him the second time around, but knows he cant beat The Hulk in a straight out slug fest so he resorts to his other powes. Superman himself was amazed by the power and speed of the creature...Some people just cant see past the train wreck that was Marvel vs. DC all the while saying "Superman is the greatest!!! He would punch The Hulk a billion times in the face in one second and then throw him into the sun!!! And thats it!!! " I rest my case...

I knwo the isse you are talkingabout

I haven't read it though

You want to see something cool?
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Canvas/8961/superman.html

 

[narsal]

must you resort to name calling it shows you in a very bad light this whole thread is moronic and if you can not accept what the companies publish then start your own books. name calling is the last desperat act of those who are insercure

 

[Grey]

I'll check my "local shop" and see what I can find on the 98 Supes and Hulk....Thankz.

 

[Guyverjay]

Originally posted by narsal
must you resort to name calling it shows you in a very bad light this whole thread is moronic and if you can not accept what the companies publish then start your own books. name calling is the last desperat act of those who are insercure

You get a FACT thrown at you and you continue to chat nonsense


That can try peoples patience

 

[X]

Cool, thanks. Kind of how I always envisoned it going down as well...

 

[X]

Oh, and another thing I forgot to add earlier. The Hulk has no qualms about fighting dirty if he had too. A couple of examples. In the past when he was fighting Thor, he took a hostage and threatened to kill her unless Thor put his hammer down, Thor did so and The Hulk then got ahold of him, and beat him bad. Also, The Huk was once fighting The Thunderbolts, and decided to break a dam, turning there attention saving the town people's lives. And in a fight with Superman, he wouldent have any problem throwing a bus full of people a mile straight up into the sk, making Superman fly up there and get them, and then jump up and grab Superman and then drive him 150 straight down into the earth up impact. Or collapse a building full of people, diverting his attention to them and then getting his hands on him, allowing for an attack on a vurnable Superman, or take a hostage...I mean, take your pick...I peronally think that would give the Hulk an advantage...having no morale dilema's and all...

 

[Guyverjay]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Oh, and another thing I forgot to add earlier. The Hulk has no qualms about fighting dirty if he had too. A couple of examples. In the past when he was fighting Thor, he took a hostage and threatened to kill her unless Thor put his hammer down, Thor did so and The Hulk then got ahold of him, and beat him bad. Also, The Huk was once fighting The Thunderbolts, and decided to break a dam, turning there attention saving the town people's lives. And in a fight with Superman, he wouldent have any problem throwing a bus full of people a mile straight up into the sk, making Superman fly up there and get them, and then jump up and grab Superman and then drive him 150 straight down into the earth up impact. Or collapse a building full of people, diverting his attention to them and then getting his hands on him, allowing for an attack on a vurnable Superman, or take a hostage...I mean, take your pick...I peronally think that would give the Hulk an advantage...having no morale dilema's and all...

Even I can't argue with post

 

[Lackey]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Oh, and another thing I forgot to add earlier. The Hulk has no qualms about fighting dirty if he had too. A couple of examples. In the past when he was fighting Thor, he took a hostage and threatened to kill her unless Thor put his hammer down, Thor did so and The Hulk then got ahold of him, and beat him bad. Also, The Huk was once fighting The Thunderbolts, and decided to break a dam, turning there attention saving the town people's lives. And in a fight with Superman, he wouldent have any problem throwing a bus full of people a mile straight up into the sk, making Superman fly up there and get them, and then jump up and grab Superman and then drive him 150 straight down into the earth up impact. Or collapse a building full of people, diverting his attention to them and then getting his hands on him, allowing for an attack on a vurnable Superman, or take a hostage...I mean, take your pick...I peronally think that would give the Hulk an advantage...having no morale dilema's and all...

well that's basically the type of stuff Doomsday did.....plus he had superspeed and bony protusions with which to rip holes into Superman. Putting people's lives in danger is going to make Superman mad and make him realize he has take down Hulk fast, pull out all the stops.

 

[X]

The Hulk is much more intelligent though, and wouldent mindlessy wander around destroying things, it would be somewhat calculated and used to his advantage, just not for the sake of doing it. I know the Hulk isnt exactly a genius, but he isnt dumb either. Even the completly mindless Hulk has laid traps good enough to catch people like Doc Sampson off guard...and the normal savage Hulk has done things like burrowing into the ground to escape a bunch of army tanks, then going up underneath one, ripping the bottom of it open, crawling in, and then firing on other tanks, therefore causing mass confusion and destruction without him having to exert himself one bit. And then he pretty much just wandered off...

And the bony protrusions sticking out of DD started to cut him at the very end of there fight, when Superman's bio-matrix force field had started to weaken due to extreme exertion. And the thing is, Superman wouldent be able to take down The Hulk fast, taking into consideration he wouldent even know who he was in the first place when the fight started, and I personally believe he would get batted around at first (just as he did in The Hulk vs. Supeman one shot) because he would underestimate The Hulk's speed and strength,not to mention he wouldent want to hit The Hulk his hardest or anything, as he hasnt tested the limits of the creatures toughness and would probably worry about killing it, he would then start getting physical and try to go toe with toe with The Hulk, just as he did with DD. Superman has never been the biggest thinker in the world, and it took him dying against DD to figure out he needed to try a differant strategy and not go toe to toe with him, and he figured that out in Hunter/Prey.

He would more then likely do the same thing against the Hulk. He would go toe to toe with The Hulk for a couple of minutes, and then get him angry, therfore cancelling out the possibility of taking him at fast. The Hulk would probably, as he always has, go to taking a hostage or destroying a building once the battle heated up anyway. And I know im almost completly arguring for The Hulk in this discussion, but Im not against Superman beating The Hulk. There's a good chance he could do it, just as theres a good chance The Hulk could take him. Im pretty much just arguring in favor of The Hulk because almost everyone already knows everything about Superman, but The Hulk is somewhat underestimated...or people are just kind of in the dark about his abilitys and such...

 

[Lackey]

wow, long post


well, I pretty much agree that the fight could go like it did with Doomsday.... but also like you said, Superman learned his lesson from that fight and wouldn't make the same mistakes.

but even if the fight went like it did with Doomsday, there are things that didn't work on Doomsday that would work on the Hulk... for example, Superman tried taking Doomsday out into space where he would be helpless, it didn't work on Doomsday but it would work on the Hulk.

 

[X]

When did Superman ever take Doomsday into space? Im pretty sure he never did it when they were fighting...the only time I remember DD even being in space was after he died...and he was put on that rock and chained up by Superman...he was already dead then though. And if Superman even brought The Hulk into space, it's not like it would kill him, he's survived prolonged peroids of time in space before. You want to know what I think would happen? Supes would bring him up into space, but The Hulk would wrap his hands around Supes throat right when they got out of Earth's atmosphere. They would both then hurtle into Earth's atmosphere, burst into flames, and smash into the ground going several hundred miles per hour, all the while with The Hulk with his hands around Supes throat, pretty much on top of them. The Hulk has literally done things like that before...he'll fight you to the bitter ******* end, no matter what it takes...he'll find a way...

 

[Guyverjay]

Superman TRIED to do it