Supervillain Tag-Team Showdown: Namor & Hawkeye vs. Aquaman & Green Arrow

[Ultra-Herald9]

namor and hawkeye. spare the BS island traning **** ollie recieved. ****ing winnick! it takes bruce 20 +years to train and he can barely keep up with deathstroke,but ollie suddenly can with his one year training?! ***** please.

Maybe because he trained harder. He was already pretty skilled and he hired THE BEST teachers.

 

[Ultra-Herald9]

And whats with this Namor is stronger than Aquaman stuff coming from? Isn't Namor only class 70 or so? I'm pretty sure Aquaman is quite a bit stronger than that.

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

bruce hired the best teachers too! and One year traning harder is'nt going to get anyone up to deathstrokes level.

 

[Anubis]

Well, you gotta look at it this way, Ollie wasn't a Novice when he got his training. Batman went from nothing to one of the best in the world. So that takes a while. Ollie took what he already had, which was years of street fighting and other things he was able to pick up along the way, and simply moved his skills to the next level through a three month crash course in, pretty much everything. I'm not saying he'd beat his son in a fight now, but he's good enough to take Clint.

And whats with this Namor is stronger than Aquaman stuff coming from? Isn't Namor only class 70 or so? I'm pretty sure Aquaman is quite a bit stronger than that.

Well, the thing about Marvel's strength class system is, well, it's crap. It might say 70, but he's pulled off feats that put him way above all that. Plus that's more placing him outside of the water. Out of the water he's 70 and dropping. In the water he's 100+.

 

[Kitsune]

Namor is stronger than Aquaman...but...he would still lose and I'll tell you why. That's Water Bearer Aquaman. Two things. He doesn't dry out, like Namor

So, Aquaman and Ollie for the win.

Since when? Aquaman's weakness was worse than Namor's, he couldn't stay out of water for more than an hour.

 

[Anubis]

Since...he became Water Bearer Aquaman. I thought that was explained?

 

[comicfan4Life]

The picture depicts the version of Aquaman. It is the waterbearer one. And no, the Thirst won't come back. He defeated it. There is an issue pre-IC where he slugged Martian Manhunter in the face with the waterhand. Just letting you know.

Course, either way it would make sense the match is going by the latest versions of the characters, but that clearly rules out Dweller of the Depths because he is going by "Aquaman" in this match.

I know, I have the issue where he punched Manhunter. I thought the thirst could still come back though. But now that rules out my initial point about the negativity of the water hand. So now that aquaman is the dweller that automactically makes this version the dweller with magic due to current versions. That makes sense, but since dweller is dead doesn't that make Artie Joe the current aquaman. Are we talking Arthur Curry or AJ? AC yeah, he could take it to Namor, but Joe? No way in hell.

Now Batman with 20 years of training can shake Deathstroke due to bats using his skill. Ollie saw this and figured that you can't use what you know against Deathstroke. He have to use what he won't expect. You gave to be wild and unpredictable.

Aquaman is about 50 to 70 out of the water. In the Water he's 70 to 100. Namor is about 80 out of the water and dropping. In water he's 100+. So they're pretty even. Aquaman with the water hand can last about 3 hours now. Namor can go five hours, but maybe they changed it. But his length depletes when he uses to much strength. So Aquaman could tire him out.

 

[Anubis]

WHich lead to a nice battle at the end of GA #75.

 

[comicfan4Life]

Damn straight it did! I really don't care for whose better just as long as both companies give great comics I'm happy. But fanboyism has to be seperated from common sense. I know certain marvel guys can take dc guys, and that certain DC guys can take marvel guys. But what's wrong in admitting that?

 

[Anubis]

I don't know. People are stupid. I've come to accept that as fact.

 

[comicfan4Life]

I know, that's really sad. Hey Ironman has a hulk buster suit designed to fight hulk. Ironman can beat hulk now! And yet hulk can get stronger when he gets madder than before. So Hulk's strength level can go higher, while ironman has almost used everything in his arsenal and only has two to three moves left. What's he going to do? Use them and get hulk madder?

Scarecrow can beat batman. All he has to do is show him what he's afraid of. He's did that many a time and batman still kicks his ass because? Maybe because he's not afraid of his parents death anymore?

 

[Shawkur]

Im sure this was covered somewhere, but why is the tourney called "Supervillain Tag-Team Showdown" if its made up of mostly heroes?

 

[Kebab gud]

i just remembers something...
Aquaman and Green Arrow was created by the same guy (Mort Weisinger) and both apperad for the first time in the same comic (More Fun comics #73)
and they both survived the golden age thanks to mort

 

[Juggernaut423]

well there's a Superhero portion and Supervillain portion, I mislabeled this title on accident when I changed my mind which tag-team versus match I wanted to show.

Other match-ups since this post:
Wolverine & Colossus vs. Lobo & Steel
Forums: AbsolutePunk.Net
Winner: TBA

Doctor Doom & Juggernaut vs. General Zod & Doomsday
Forums: RealGm.Com
Winner: TBA

 

[Anubis]

Wow, Superhero match up you got is incredibly One sided. Lobo and Steel are waaaayyyyy out of their league.

 

[Kebab gud]

Yeah.. Lobo is immortal, and likes to kill

 

[Anubis]

And has Superman level strength. And he likes to Kill.

 

[Kebab gud]

and is the main man. And lets not forget.. he likes to kill

 

[Spike_x1]

I wouldn't put it passed Lobo to tear out Wolverine's guts for the last cigar, and use his claws to trim his nose hairs.

 

[Juggernaut423]

yeah I thought it was fair enough match-up... both bad asses facing off. Wolverine and Colossus are winning handily though. Steel isn't enough to make it an even match-up supposedly.

 

[Kebab gud]

are you kidding? Lobo can take all of them in under a nanosecound..
give me an url to the forum

 

[Anubis]

What did I tell you? People are stupid.

 

[Juggernaut423]

here's the link:
http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=245502

It's a music website, but the website is huge from what I can tell (146,000 Members on the forums).

They tend to vote but don't have any reasons on their vote.

 

[batnkevlar]

Wait, so you're asking music people who don't know anything about comics to vote on comics? How does that make sense?

Awrite, Lobo would rip through Colossus and Wolverine very quickly, and Steel himself is a megagenius. How is that a contest?

Juggernaut423, no offense, but how much do you know about comics? The matchups are kinda absurd...

 

[comicfan4Life]

If I remember from an early Marvel/DC crossover wolverine beat Lobo. I didn't understand why when lobo has superman like strength and can't die. Punisher killed wolverine with volts of electricity. Tigershark almost killed Logan by drowning him. They need to do a rematch of Marvel/DC.