Support the troop = Support Bush ????

[Ring Deacon]

I've noticed a lot of people, usually Republicans, who say if you don't support Bush, then you aren't supporting the troops., or you're supporting the terrorists, or even worse, you hate America. Now I know I have loads of support for the troops. I wish them the best, and hope they get home to their families soon. But I do not support Bush in any way. Let's hear some of your thoughts.

You are a terroist and I calling homeland security right now.

But really it is all apart of the GOP agenda to hurt the Democrats and protect Bush. I find it childish on the President's part when stuff like this is said. He is using the troops as a reason people don't like him.

I suport the trops 110% and pray for each and everyone of them to return home safely from this war that can not be won.

 

[SuperMonkey]

I've noticed a lot of people, usually Republicans, who say if you don't support Bush, then you aren't supporting the troops., or you're supporting the terrorists, or even worse, you hate America. Now I know I have loads of support for the troops. I wish them the best, and hope they get home to their families soon. But I do not support Bush in any way. Let's hear some of your thoughts.

bullcrap. I voted for Bush and I would today but that kinda thinkin is ******ed.

 

[Kritish]

SuperMonkey voted for Bush? Why am I not surprised?

 

[SuperMonkey]

And you have to turn it political as always. Just funderful

 

[SuperMonkey]

I support the troops coming home. And I think there are things that affect troop morale more than civilians speaking out against the war or politicians against the war- such as a soldier in Iraq receiving a letter from their fiancee and included in the letter is the engagement ring; a soldier receiving a letter from his ex-wife letting him know that she now has sole custody of the children, leaving out the fact that she and her attorney failed to let the judge know that the ex-husband is in the military and stationed in Iraq; the increase of divorces in military families; the increase in suicides among active service members being at a 20 year high. Just to name a few.

And it's all Bush's fault...

 

[Vilya]

America is fiercely patriotic, and nobody wants to be called unpatriotic, that's what Bush was selling all along and the Troops only do what the President asks not the other way around....sigh

 

[Hotwire]

bullcrap. I voted for Bush and I would today but that kinda thinkin is ******ed.

Why would you vote for a president who got us into an unwinable war under false pretense?

 

[sinewave]

that you crave the attention, but feel dead inside once you get it

oh yeah, that's right. thanks.

Why would you vote for a president who got us into an unwinable war under false pretense?

maybe he ate a lot of paint chips as a kid.

 

[SuperMonkey]

totally. Paint chips rule. Everything everybody says about lead? Completely a lie

 

[SuperMonkey]

Why would you vote for a president who got us into an unwinable war under false pretense?

Because both alternatives were a heck of a lot worse. I am definitely not a huge fan of Bush, but I sure as heck don't want Kerry in office. Now Gore wouldn't have been that bad and I kinda liked his platform ideas but Bush won out in the end.

Followup to my First Post in this Thread: There is a fine line between not supporting the war/Bush and calling the troops' leader a traitor.

 

[SuperMonkey]

I support the troops coming home. And I think there are things that affect troop morale more than civilians speaking out against the war or politicians against the war- such as a soldier in Iraq receiving a letter from their fiancee and included in the letter is the engagement ring; a soldier receiving a letter from his ex-wife letting him know that she now has sole custody of the children, leaving out the fact that she and her attorney failed to let the judge know that the ex-husband is in the military and stationed in Iraq; the increase of divorces in military families; the increase in suicides among active service members being at a 20 year high. Just to name a few.

So you're saying if a democrat started the war, then we wouldn't have had any trouble in Iraq. Everyone would have been happy, no deaths no PTSD, nothin'.

Someone actually asked on Yahoo Answers why so many people were dying in this "republican" war, like democratic wars have this amazing shield of protection around the troops. More than 300,000 american troops died in WWII and it was started by a democrat (FDR)

 

[shapeshifter]

you know there are a few things that Bush is very good at.
One of which is making people believe what is american and what is not. What is good american behavior and what is detrimental. According to him, supporting the troops is american, supporting the war is american, supporting him is american and supporting the allies is american. It seems like he thinks that it has to be all or nothing. in other words he leaves no room for shades of gray. I believe that that is how he sees the world, and that is how he expects americans to see the world.
Personally I do not support the war
I do not support the american president
I do give my support to the troops who are doing their jobs and putting their life on the line. They are just a cog in a greater machine. Having said that I'm not going to loose any sleep if George Washington Bush thinks I am an anti American radical.

 

[shapeshifter]

America is fiercely patriotic, and nobody wants to be called unpatriotic, that's what Bush was selling all along and the Troops only do what the President asks not the other way around....sigh

not all together correct.
I agree with the rest of your statements

 

[EdRyder]

So you're saying if a democrat started the war, then we wouldn't have had any trouble in Iraq. Everyone would have been happy, no deaths no PTSD, nothin'.

Someone actually asked on Yahoo Answers why so many people were dying in this "republican" war, like democratic wars have this amazing shield of protection around the troops. More than 300,000 american troops died in WWII and it was started by a democrat (FDR)

No you didnt just compare WW2 to the war in Iraq...
WW2 was started by a democrat-FDR? Whered you go to school??
Either you are completeley ******ed,or youl just say anything to make your point

 

[PemLam]

EVERYBODY knows it was the South Koreans that started WWII. Christ, what is being taught in schools today?

 

[shapeshifter]

No you didnt just compare WW2 to the war in Iraq...
WW2 was started by a democrat-FDR? Whered you go to school??
Either you are completeley ******ed,or youl just say anything to make your point

no kidding
WW2 is the antithesis of the Iraq bungle. WW2 was a war for freedom, and justice against a visible enemy.
The Iraq war is seriously a war of money, revenge and mine is bigger than yours.
Death toll has nothing to do with it.
Bring up the Civil war if you want, more americans died in that than any two wars they were in, but it won't help your case anymore than this did.

 

[DBella]

My friend's husband just returned from Iraq about 2 weeks ago. He's messed up in the head and it's sad to see how it's affecting my friend and their children.

 

[souloffire]

More than 300,000 american troops died in WWII and it was started by a democrat (FDR)

FDR didn't start WWII.

 

[shapeshifter]

War hurts people on almost every level possible. Which is why i take such great exception to it. I think that war should be the last resort, not the first. I fully support anyone who is fighting there, and their friends and families here. its the government that sends them off like disposable assets that i will not support.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I agree with David Icke on this.

What would you think if you interviewed a German in Nazi Germany, and they said, "Wull, I don't support Hitler, but I'm 100% behind the TROOPS."

People always condemn them for letting it go that far, like, even though you didn't personally torture, starve, enslave and kill any Jews...you watched and allowed it to go on, so you're also terrible.


And I've heard people say that they can't believe all the Germans went along with the atrocities before WW2, but that's what Americans are doing now.
Many of them think our gov't. is committing atrocities right now, but they allow it.

Saying "I was just following orders." isn't considered to be a sufficient excuse for Nazi war criminals and it isn't sufficient for present day Americans either.

So, I don't think you can actually say you're against the war but for the troops, because the troops ARE the war. The gov't. said to invade Iraq for no good reason and the soldiers are the ones who complied.

Being patriotic and loving America does not mean that you should mindlessly obey every American administration, at all.
There was a time when, in America, if you helped a Black person escape from a White person that was raping and torturing him/her...it was a crime.
Thank God some people disobeyed the U.S. government.

 

[Kritish]

maybe he ate a lot of paint chips as a kid.

 

[knowsbleed]

I agree with David Icke on this.

What would you think if you interviewed a German in Nazi Germany, and they said, "Wull, I don't support Hitler, but I'm 100% behind the TROOPS."

People always condemn them for letting it go that far, like, even though you didn't personally torture, starve, enslave and kill any Jews...you watched and allowed it to go on, so you're also terrible.


And I've heard people say that they can't believe all the Germans went along with the atrocities before WW2, but that's what Americans are doing now.
Many of them think our gov't. is committing atrocities right now, but they allow it.

Saying "I was just following orders." isn't considered to be a sufficient excuse for Nazi war criminals and it isn't sufficient for present day Americans either.

So, I don't think you can actually say you're against the war but for the troops, because the troops ARE the war. The gov't. said to invade Iraq for no good reason and the soldiers are the ones who complied.

Being patriotic and loving America does not mean that you should mindlessly obey every American administration, at all.
There was a time when, in America, if you helped a Black person escape from a White person that was raping and torturing him/her...it was a crime.
Thank God some people disobeyed the U.S. government.

So US troops today are comparable to Nazi troops during WWII?

The US is far from being Nazi Germany and Bush (while I have zero love for the man and his administration) is nothing like Hitler.

 

[PLAS]

So US troops today are comparable to Nazi troops during WWII?

The US is far from being Nazi Germany and Bush (while I have zero love for the man and his administration) is nothing like Hitler.

Hitler was a very intelligent man

 

[knowsbleed]

Hitler was a very intelligent man

I never said he wasn't...and Bush isn't exactly an idiot either (though he's very good at making himself appear as one). But I don't think their goals were similar enough to compare the two.

 

[PLAS]

I never said he wasn't...and Bush isn't exactly an idiot either (though he's very good at making himself appear as one). But I don't think their goals were similar enough to compare the two.

of course not