Supreme Power

web-king said:
nothing. comic books suck today

no :confused:
Supreme Power is worth it, but the Squadron Supreme relaunch has been pretty bad.
 
I wouldnt say bad, more like disappointing as hell.
 
I think its becuase it left the Max line, which it never should've.
 
The lack of cursing and nudity really brings the book down.
 
Supreme power is like the Ultimate version of the original Squadron Supreme. It is, without a doubt, a story worth reading.
 
so, get the 3 tpbs? or give it a miss altogether (i'm mainly a DC fan).
 
the first three softcovers, or the volume one hardcover, ARE worth it. Just think of it as a really cool Justice League Elseworlds

but it's petered off after that

but if you're mainly a DC fan looking for some decent Marvel reads, I'd recommend Runaways, Daredevil, Young Avengers, Ultimates, Bullseye: Greatest Hits, or anything by Dan Slott. Depends what you're into.
 
No read supreme power. Its actually really good. Pick up in trade if you can. But, yeah the lack of cursing and nudity really brings the book down as its been stated earlier.
 
Ok, Supreme Power was more than cursing and nudity. The reason Squadron Supreme is lacking the awesomeness of Supreme Power is plain and simple: Characters. In Supreme Power, we had a smaller cast and Hyperion was the main character. We got to know him, ow he works, where he comes from, whats his mission. The same with Joe Ledger, and Nighthawk. We cared about these characters and were intrigued to find out the deal with Amphibian and Zarda. They were interesting.

In Squadron Supreme the cast has multiplied and we have to get to know the se new characters. But the problem is, the interesting characters, the ones we care about Hyperion, Doc Spectrum, Blur, Amphibian, and Zarda have taken a back seat to new characters like Emile and Inertia. The last 3 issues weve been dealing with Inertia and her backstory is unoriginal and plain and simple stupid with its portrayal of christians. JMS wants us to care about the character, but we dont. Did you guys even know Tom Thumb was part of the team, I was surprised to see his pic on the first page. Thats the problem with Squadron Supreme. The nudity and cursing were just extra, and at most times gratuitous. JMS needs to get back to worrying about the characters.
 
I have to agree with you. I like the characters, but they don't spend enough time on stories wehre we could reasonably get to know them. They have a whole bunch of characters floating here, and we know nothing about them. I didn't read all of the Supreme Power books (I do want to get them though). but I'm interested in Inertia (Despite the annoying backstory they gave her), and Arcanna, and Shape, and Nuke.
 
Hyperion is being written like Ultimate Cap to me, "get the job done, not matter what cost". Thats not the same Hyperion from Supreme Power, who actually cared about people in general. Blur is being written as the teams conscience "Oh gee guys, is this reall ok?" And pretty much everyone else is some psycho or has some issues they need to work out.
 
Darthphere said:
Ok, Supreme Power was more than cursing and nudity. The reason Squadron Supreme is lacking the awesomeness of Supreme Power is plain and simple: Characters. In Supreme Power, we had a smaller cast and Hyperion was the main character. We got to know him, ow he works, where he comes from, whats his mission. The same with Joe Ledger, and Nighthawk. We cared about these characters and were intrigued to find out the deal with Amphibian and Zarda. They were interesting.

In Squadron Supreme the cast has multiplied and we have to get to know the se new characters. But the problem is, the interesting characters, the ones we care about Hyperion, Doc Spectrum, Blur, Amphibian, and Zarda have taken a back seat to new characters like Emile and Inertia. The last 3 issues weve been dealing with Inertia and her backstory is unoriginal and plain and simple stupid with its portrayal of christians. JMS wants us to care about the character, but we dont. Did you guys even know Tom Thumb was part of the team, I was surprised to see his pic on the first page. Thats the problem with Squadron Supreme. The nudity and cursing were just extra, and at most times gratuitous. JMS needs to get back to worrying about the characters.

Agreement. I miss Nighthawk, I miss hearing fishie's thoughts second hand and, while I was indeed very interested with Inertia from her first panel, but she shouldn't be taking panel time from Milton, Zarda, or fishie, and it seems like she is.
 
Yeah, I'm seriously disappointed at the lack of Nighthawk since the Squadron Supreme reboot.

It's like JMS lost all his good writing powers on this title when it left the MAX title.

Darthphere put it best. Though the original cast of the Supreme Power aren't really taking that much of a back seat. Emil was in the Hyperion mini, and was Shape and the reality shifting lady...and Nuke. But Inertia is brand new to the Squadron Supreme, and yeah....she sucks.

The only one who's taken the backseat is Nighthawk, and he's the only one that I really like. Well, I do like Blur because he seems to be the only god damn normal member of the team, haha.

Why this book left the MAX imprint is beyond me. I know that maybe they wanted more of a readership. But if kids are going to sneak and get alcohol and cigarette's they are gonna do it with their comics too. Especially if it has naked Zarda and a naked fish lady. :up:
 
The first issue, which is all ive read so far, was ok, but I prefered the death of a universe tpb which has several kick ass fights between the ss and avengers.

Im surprised how much respect marvel shows the characters, seeing as they are more or less the JLA. I thought it would be much more spoof like and having true marvel characters embarass them, but they are treated well, and all the fights are handled evenly.
 
web-king said:
90s books where much better than the ones today

i hope you're talking about individual books. cos what i remember about 90s comics as a whole were a lack of choice. today independents are, in my mind at least, better than anything marvel and DC could come up with. marvel is embracing the independent line and adult books and the choice today is much better than its ever been. todays comics kick 90s comics asses
 
Darthphere said:
Hyperion is being written like Ultimate Cap to me, "get the job done, not matter what cost". Thats not the same Hyperion from Supreme Power, who actually cared about people in general. Blur is being written as the teams conscience "Oh gee guys, is this reall ok?" And pretty much everyone else is some psycho or has some issues they need to work out.

I agreed with everything else you said in your earlier posts, but you have to keep in mind this ISN'T the same Hyperion that we saw in Supreme Power. He doesn't have the same respect for human life as he used to because of how the general populace treated him upon learning of his true origin, the character had been slowly building to the point where he is now which is the "get the job done no matter what" kinda guy....
 
I've really been enjoying the Squadron Supreme series so far, not really understanding the dissapointment some people are feelling. I mean after 3 long plodding TPBs, we pretty much know who Mark Milton is to such a degree that it would be sort of redundant to go back into his story right now. He's fine in his current role as the Squadron leader, and I have no doubt the book will continue along the same bar of quality that was set with Supreme Power, because nothign about the book has changed with the transition aside from the cursing and nudity. It's the exact same style that it was, they're just formalized into a tem now, which of course brings about different requirements when telling the story. So waht if we've got 3 issues or whatnot focusing on the back story of one character, it's not like Marks own back story which essentially took 3 TPBs to tell whas particularly reviting or original. But it's the style of the book as a whole that makes it a great and interesting read, no matter which itteration you're reading (Supremem or Squadron).
 
Hey guys, is it true that Marvel did away with their Maxx series, in order to tone down the violence on the book so that they can get George Clooney to play Nick Fury in a movie?
Some idiot had the nerve to tell me, his 'friend' told him that was the case. And that's why Supreme Power was changed, and the writer, is so frustrated with Marvel.

Can someone please help me educate this puss for brains? What's the REAL deal?
 
The Max line is going to be for minis and stuff like that but not ongoing titles.
 
tom thumb showed in supreme power,told the nurse to put gloves on and give him some lovin.I love supreme power,its a perfect sotry wonderfull writing and art.I havent read supreme power yet because i wait to get my subs until ultimates comes out so im going tommorow.
 
Stealth_Prime said:
Hey guys, is it true that Marvel did away with their Maxx series, in order to tone down the violence on the book so that they can get George Clooney to play Nick Fury in a movie?
Some idiot had the nerve to tell me, his 'friend' told him that was the case. And that's why Supreme Power was changed, and the writer, is so frustrated with Marvel.

Can someone please help me educate this puss for brains? What's the REAL deal?

Well, if you know he's an idiot how come your asking us? Heh.

They moved Supreme Power from the MAX line, and rebooted it under Squadron Supreme, which now makes it a Marvel Knights book. Marvel Knights is that one step below the MAX line. No nudity or graphic violence shown, but there is still certainly a share of violence in the book.

Marvel made this decision hoping to gain a stronger readership to the book, instead of keeping it for adults only. George Clooney is a big actor and everything but he doesn't have enough pull to cause a comic book to change it's colors. Marvel could do a kick ass Nick Fury movie WITHOUT Bat-nipple Clooney.
 

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