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[Silverstein]

You know something? Sex sells. But I think it sells not because guys are dirty or girls are ****s, I think it is because people are sexual beings as much as they may be embarrassed by it.

Tomb Raider is probablly one of the most famous video games, but not just because of the surface eye candy. The games are actually entertaining for a while. Maybe not the best games ever, but they were fun to play. You always get the people who say things like "What is hot about pixels and polygons?", but rarely is one drooling over their screen; they are emersing themselves in the game.

Lara Croft was considered a sex icon (back when the games were popular at least), because you were imagining her as a real woman doing cool stuff like that. And I don't think it's fair to look at her and call it degrading or belittling of women and then just shrug at Duke Nukem or God of War or even Solid Snake. Most people playing Duke Nukem didn't look like him, same with "Kratos"(?) and no one playing a game is as talented as Snake. But guys don't complain and call it "an unrealistic interpretation".

In case you are wondering my thesis is that sexuality shouldn't be hidden or banned from games. People should consider that video games are now legitamate entertainment systems. I can surf the web, message friends, listen to music or watch a movie (DVD or Blueray) all on one console. And it cost me real world money to do so, so why should my violence or sexuality that I am willing to PAY to see be censored or cut because some parents are too lazy or scared to say "NO. You can't have this!!" to their child.

Saying no doesn't mean you don't love someone.

I mean we understand that. As a society, we get it. When a girl says "no", one a date any guy worth his salt acknowledges her. So why does it change for the kids?

I'm not asking for hentai games. But I don't think anyone would die if Wal*Mart or Game Stop would carry "AO" games. I just want sexuality to be used properly.

Red Ninja- Improper use of sexuality. The game sucks, so they make the main character "hot" hoping to get sales. NO!
Tomb Raider 360- Maybe not the best game ever, but it plays solidly and has a story that is engaging. The bonus is that you get fan service/eye candy while playing. Proper usage!
God of War- Kratos is hot. Lots of girl gamers have said this, he is friggin hot. But the game is a solid game. Proper Usage!
Superman- IMPROPER use. Make him look like Brandon Routh or make him look like some kind of awesome guy..it still sucks to play.

So give us the next Tomb Raider! We're ready. Resident Evil 3 was a good start...

 

[SuperFerret]

You kind of said a whole lot of nothing. But I agree that censorship should be a personal thing.

 

[Silverstein]

It's not just that. It's:

-Censorship should be individual
-Appropriate Sexuality is a GOOD thing in gaming.
-Bad Sexuality should be removed and replaced.
-We shouldn't be affraid to promote series like Tomb Raider or Bloodrayne, if the gameplay is good.

 

[StrainedEyes]

What is this thread about? Is this a rant that Assassin's Creed only sold so much cause people wanted to get some of that producer? Cause if so that's hogwash... If that's not what this thread is about, I don't really care... And that girl dressed as Lara Croft is hot.

 

[Danalys]

i played farenheit (indigo prophecy for americans, altho your version is cut.) recently and it's the most awesome game with sex in it ever, since it treats sex like a good movie would, ie an expression of emotional connection between characters.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

if it's written well, i'm all for it...

if it seems like it's just thrown in their to be edgy, i'd leave it alone or ignore it...

 

[Silverstein]

Yeah, when treated well the game can tie you in more, I think.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

I'm guessing this thread is trying to open the discussion on sex in video games?

The way i look at it, if we see it in movies, why not our games? But like someone else said, if its just in there to be edgy, then just leave it out.

Also(and im not sure if this is what you are implying) if you are under the age of 18 and your parent tells you NO, you just need to suck it up and accept it. Most of the time they know whats best for you.

 

[Silverstein]

I'm guessing this thread is trying to open the discussion on sex in video games?

The way i look at it, if we see it in movies, why not our games? But like someone else said, if its just in there to be edgy, then just leave it out.

Also(and im not sure if this is what you are implying) if you are under the age of 18 and your parent tells you NO, you just need to suck it up and accept it. Most of the time they know whats best for you.

lol there is not one part of this post that is incorrect. You, sir, understand.

 

[venom892]

I think that parents should start taking responsibility instead of blaming Video games,Movies,Etc.Too many parents simply don't know what's going on with their kids and it's their fault.People just don't want to take personal responsibility.I say if it's tasteful and fits the context of the game go for it.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

I think that parents should start taking responsibility instead of blaming Video games,Movies,Etc.Too many parents simply don't know what's going on with their kids and it's their fault.People just don't want to take personal responsibility.I say if it's tasteful and fits the context of the game go for it.

I couldn't agree with this statement more. Most people are soooo quick to throw the blame outward instead of actually taking responsibility. If you have a little hellion for a kid, chances are its not that movie he watched last night that made him that way, but your lame parenting.

 

[Timstuff]

Summary: some people have Dead or Alive girls and Lara Croft in the spank bank, and others don't. Who cares?

 

[Silverstein]

Your summary is incorrect and actually a lot of people care hence Washington trying to stop it. Besides to answer your question directly, I care. That's why I wanted to have people discuss it. Maybe you don't care, but why bother posting to express how you are uninterested? Wouldn't posting show that you care enough to comment that you don't care?

 

[Timstuff]

Notice, I said and some don't.

 

[Silverstein]

Summary: some people have Dead or Alive girls and Lara Croft in the spank bank, and others don't. Who cares?

Notice that you said some don't...yeah...some don't have these characters in the "spank bank".

Spoiler

The who cares line is what I'm addressing.

Your comment is that either way it doesn't matter. Who cares either way.

This is what I'm addressing. Your post and then your response both very angsty, calm down buddy it's just a topic.

I should have put this in the community forum, but I assumed that intelligent conversation could happen in the very forum that this topic is based on. People's responses here seem like it bothers you guys that the topic even exists.

I for one care about the politics surrounding the things I care about. I've been playing games since I was a kid and will continue for a long time, so if politicians and angry parents are whinning, I'd like to know that my gamer collegues are fighting back...or at least CARE.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

I for one care about the politics surrounding the things I care about. I've been playing games since I was a kid and will continue for a long time, so if politicians and angry parents are whinning, I'd like to know that my gamer collegues are fighting back...or at least CARE.

The way i look at it, there is no reason to "fight back" at this point. This is not unlike what wev seen before with music and movies. Let the politicians and parents whine, nothing will change, at least until the world goes socialist.

 

[Silverstein]

Eh. Good point. But change is slowly happening in their favor. For instance, one of my favorite games...Resident Evil, there was talk that the death scenes were going to be banned. I don't know if that went through or not, but that's an example.

Or that lawyer/politician who keeps fighting all the free roam games like GTA and Saint's Row.

 

[Addendum]

If anyone thought that hack Thompson would have succeeded with his "fight" over Grand Theft Auto, they would either have to be under the age of 10, ******ed, or both.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Eh. Good point. But change is slowly happening in their favor. For instance, one of my favorite games...Resident Evil, there was talk that the death scenes were going to be banned. I don't know if that went through or not, but that's an example.

Or that lawyer/politician who keeps fighting all the free roam games like GTA and Saint's Row.

I doubt anything will be held back in Resident Evil 5, i mean no one can tell Capcom they cant add something to their game. And like Addendum said, Jack Thompson has basically been laughed out of the Fla courts, i mean the guy is a joke(and im not saying this because im a gamer, i mean im ALL for keeping games like GTA out of the hands of kids, but this guy is a quack). Hes just looking for the big buck. He knows how much money is within the game industry and sees a chance to profit immensely.

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

If i want to be the Alpha male blowing up aliens, shooting people in the face, saving the world, looking at or being the love interest of titillating pixel woman with big fun bags, all while lying in bed tapping buttons or hunched over a computer desk clicking a mouse then I'll play video games for that escapism. If I want realism and reality I'll go buy a pint of milk from the shop.

 

[Silverstein]

If i want to be the Alpha male blowing up aliens, shooting people in the face, saving the world, looking at or being the love interest of titillating pixel woman with big fun bags, all while lying in bed tapping buttons or hunched over a computer desk clicking a mouse then I'll play video games for that escapism. If I want realism and reality I'll go buy a pint of milk from the shop.

Pffftt.....Milk is like 3,000 Zenny now!! That's like 50 gil!!

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

 

[Silverstein]

Heh..lol