Tarzan

[C. Lee]

'The Legend Of Tarzan' rules international on $45m

http://www.screendaily.com/box-office/the-legend-of-tarzan-rules-international-on-45m/5106983.article

There's a good chance that LoT might go on to break even now.

That's cool....glad to see that.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Chance to break even? Looks like we won't be getting a sequel

 

[Sithborg]

It depends on a a few different factors. Tarzan is doing much better than expected. And it is pretty well received by the audience. I can see WB be willing to gamble on a sequel if they can figure out how to control the budget.

 

[jfurioso]

I took a group of seven family members to watch the movie this past Sunday and everyone enjoyed it a lot. So has everyone I know who watched it.

I saw the Ebert site had given it only two stars and reading the review, noticed that about one paragraph dealt with the actual movie which it described as an adequate adventure story, while several other paragraphs went on in depth about the problematic aspects of its basic white-supremacy ethos. The commentary in the site went on at length on this specific aspect, while showing little or no awareness of the actual movie.

A shame, really, because I particularly feel the movie did a very good job of retaining the exciting elements of the character and milieu while addressing those problematic aspects in very sensible fashion. I felt this was a GOOD example of a progressive interpretation that did not undermine the classic appeal nor seem limply self-apologetic. The movie tackles seriously the issue of historical exploitation not as an agenda piece but as matter of historical fact that supports the action adventure elements and gives plausible motivations to those involved.

Tarzan is not portrayed as ruler of the jungle and all in it. There is a fun quick recursive reference to that perception but then the movie makes clear that he is no lord over the jungle. His exceptional nature is precisely being an equal to men and beasts in their environs, not a superior. He is shown as more heroic precisely because of this.

It is a shame if preconceived notions and the current political climate are preventing this very worthy work from reaching the audience it deserves.

I remember that when Roger Ebert reviewed Greystoke, the Lambert movie, he mentioned how he missed the pulp excitement associated with the character, in that more serious, dramatic film. Well, I think he would have approved of LEGEND OF TARZAN, which does give us those simple pulpy thrills without compromising a serious dramatic angle, or an ethical conscience.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

I took a group of seven family members to watch the movie this past Sunday and everyone enjoyed it a lot. So has everyone I know who watched it.

I saw the Ebert site had given it only two stars and reading the review, noticed that about one paragraph dealt with the actual movie which it described as an adequate adventure story, while several other paragraphs went on in depth about the problematic aspects of its basic white-supremacy ethos. The commentary in the site went on at length on this specific aspect, while showing little or no awareness of the actual movie.

A shame, really, because I particularly feel the movie did a very good job of retaining the exciting elements of the character and milieu while addressing those problematic aspects in very sensible fashion. I felt this was a GOOD example of a progressive interpretation that did not undermine the classic appeal nor seem limply self-apologetic. The movie tackles seriously the issue of historical exploitation not as an agenda piece but as matter of historical fact that supports the action adventure elements and gives plausible motivations to those involved.

Tarzan is not portrayed as ruler of the jungle and all in it. These is a fun quick recursive reference to that perception but then the movie makes clear that he is no lord over the jungle. His exceptional nature is precisely being an equal to men and beasts in their environs, not a superior. He is shown as more heroic precisely because of this.

It is a shame if preconceived notions and the current political climate are preventing this very worthy work from reaching the audience it deserves.

I remember that when Roger Ebert reviewed Greystoke, the Lambert movie, he mentioned how he missed the pulp excitement associated with the character, in that more serious, dramatic film. Well, I think he would have approved of LEGEND OF TARZAN, which does give us those simple pulpy thrills without compromising a serious dramatic angle, or an ethical conscience.

Exactly,very well said. I feel the reviews I've seen are almost always concerned with how LoT is politically incorrect at this point of time and how this movie glorifies the concept of white supremacy.

I loved the movie. I really loved the interactions between Tarzan and George Washington,their banter was really enjoyable. All the lead actors did very well, Margot Robbie's Jane was feisty and Cristoph Waltz did his usual villain shtick but he was on point nevertheless. Alexander Skarsgard and Sam Jackson was great in the movie. It's a summer adventure movie which goes deeper with honest intentions and comes off as a rather well executed entertainer.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The film may not be a hit but the word of mouth is actually good and that's something that I feel good about with regards to it's box office.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

This movie is receiving great word of mouth. Everyone that I've spoken to loves it.

 

[jfurioso]

The box office however remains disappointing. While no masterpiece, and lacking the deeper sense of gravitas of Greystoke, this movie certainly deserved better.

 

[C. Lee]

People listened to the early critics....who had a hate on for it before they even saw it because they felt it would be promoting the old "white man here to save poor black man" schtickt.....too bad they didn't realize that it had - black man looking for and finding proof that white people were forcing blacks into slavery so that he could stop it....or.....black people working along side of Tarzan to fight the bad whites....or the tribes banding together to repel the white mercenaries coming to over run their land.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm black and I believe that the film handled the race issues as well as it could.

I usually don't say this because I loathe when fanboys say it to defend their latest pet project and this will potentially make me look like a hypocrite next time I argue with them but I think that the critics were flat out wrong about The Legend of Tarzan. It's certainly flawed but I believe the film mostly works.

 

[Pickleweasel]

Looks like 400 is a bit out of reach, still could get a sequel though, has somewhat similar numbers as Pacific Rim

They shoulda just made this for $120

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Looks like 400 is a bit out of reach, still could get a sequel though, has somewhat similar numbers as Pacific Rim

They shoulda just made this for $120

Surely they could do a sequel for cheaper than the first movie. It could get to $350 million or there about. Then make a sequel with a smaller budget.

 

[MadVillainy]

BUt how often do they do a sequel for cheaper?

 

[Doctor Jones]

Aren't there stories of Tarzan that don't take place in the jungle? I imagine you could do that and then for a scene or two go the a jungle location.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I don't believe a sequel is in the cards. The film cost way to much for it's own good and will be very lucky to hit 340 million.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Yeah, if they make a sequel with a similar budget, it would flop.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

BUt how often do they do a sequel for cheaper?

Not often, but it happens, the latest Star Trek movie was cheaper than the 2nd movie for example.

 

[C. Lee]

BUt how often do they do a sequel for cheaper?

Several of the original STAR TREK movies come to mind.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

I don't believe a sequel is in the cards. The film cost way to much for it's own good and will be very lucky to hit 340 million.

This is a real shame.

 

[lespaul59]

Well G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra got a sequel after making $302,469,017 woldwide ( $150,201,498 DOM/$152,267,519 FRGN). And G.I. Joe: Retaliation had a smaller budget and in my opinion was the better looking of the two movies. I don't really know is this means anything as far as Tarzan goes considering G.I. Joe came out in 2009 but I figured it could be worth pointing out. I'm still happy it's over preforming and can't wait to buy the Blu Ray.

 

[lespaul59]

I forgot to mention that G.I. Joe: TROC had a budget of $175 million.

 

[Rowsdower!]

I feel like the movie is overall pretty good but there are some goofy shifts in tone that probably rubbed some critics the wrong way (not the ones who wrote it off before they even saw it, but the ones who gave it a fair shake and didn't like it). The movie attempts to be a piece of historical fiction about the Congo Free State, which was one of the ugliest and most tragic moments in history. And when you touch on a subject that dark and intersperse it with somewhat cartoonish scenes like Tarzan and his crew swinging on mile long vines to hop aboard a train... it feels a little jarring. The whole stampede thing at the end really sticks out in its ridiculousness too... Tarzan wants to save Jane and stop the Belgians but doesn't consider the fact that sending a herd of cattle crashing through the port puts her and God knows how many other people in danger.

That said, I liked more about the movie than I disliked about it and I wish it had been better received because I'd go to see a trilogy of Skarzan movies.

 

[Web-Head]

I saw it a while back and I didn't think it was awful like some critics were saying. It was good for the most part, but some of it was a little weird and boring at times. I thought it was alright, but it probably won't be one I buy on Blu-ray or anything like that.

 

[Vartha]

Picked up Legend of Tarzan bluray/dvd combo

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Awesome. I think it's a safe bet we won't be getting a sequel unfortunately.