Action-Adventure Terminator: Dark Fate

[Iceman]

The time travel loop is the only thing I can get my head around. I mean on the one hand, this film establishes the loop by how they find Arnie's character, yet the film ends with the suggestion the loop can be broken.

T2 ends with the same suggestion which of course opened up the premise for this film, but I just find it hard to understand how someone can take a sudden action which breaks the loop.

It just lends weight to the point that Salvation was the most logical sequel to T2, just one that was executed poorly. The issue over the rights has hurt this series so much because I doubt this is where Cameron would have taken things if he had the chance to make a legitimate sequel to T2.

Imagine what this series could be like if Cameron was bringing his A game and effects works to every film.

 

[Schlosser85]

The people here saying that this film is the best sequel since T2 must be absolutely mad in the head. Everyone keeps talking about how the other sequels take a big dump on T1 and T2 but are fine with this film?. This film

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killed John Connor in the first 2 minutes of the film, making everything that came before it pointless and that's not ****ting on T2?. This story was always about John Connor and yet Genesis simply made him a villian and everyone lost their **** but this movie kills him off for good for no real reason just to have a repeat of the T1 storyline, again something people pissed on Genesis for, only this time John Connor is a woman and this is ok?. Justify to me why they had to kill off John Connor, without calling me sexist or whatever you wish to throw at me because you have no real argument. Also, the most feared killer who was a completely cold and calculated monster now is a family robot with kids and a job. This is as much of a parody as people claim T3 is. It's so embarassing.

This film is a disgrace to the name but you're all giving it a pass because it's James Cameron. Salvation is 10 times the film this trash is, I'd even take T3. Absolute embarassment.

2/10

I haven't seen the movie yet but I also

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have a fundamental issue with a movie that kills off John Connor and then replaces him with a stand-in. Way to **** on the sacrifices of Kyle Reese and the T2 Terminator and undo everything everyone fought and died for in the first two movies.

 

[C. Lee]

I am getting the urge to pick up Sarah Connor Chronicles.

I re-watched it a couple of months ago. It's still a good show. Nice action and suspense.

 

[TheFuture]

I re-watched it a couple of months ago. It's still a good show. Nice action and suspense.

I enjoyed it at the time and it ended before it should of (the thought would be unthinkable in the modern day of streaming), but I get a kick out of how the reaction would be now to the show; young white lad who is the saviour of the world who has his own potential sexbot.

 

[P Supreme]

if that spoiler is true about J. Connor then WHOA MAN ballsy move

give them credit for that hail mary but I'll wait for it to get to streaming no need to spend $$ to get aggravated

 

[Zorro]

I'm very mixed on the Grace character. I like her story and why she's protecting Dani and is given a pretty good performance by Davis but don't really like her personality and especially her attitude towards Sarah.

I like Dani for the most part but not sure about her future self

 

[TheFuture]

I'm very mixed on the Grace character. I like her story and why she's protecting Dani and is given a pretty good performance by Davis but don't really like her personality and especially her attitude towards Sarah.

I like Dani for the most part but not sure about her future self

Mackenzie Davis was fine in the film but it didn't need her character. The shame about the ending is that it wasn't earned because they didn't spend enough time on Sarah and Carl's relationship. They could have easily done this with just Dani, Carl and Sarah and the film would have been much the better for it.

 

[Zorro]

Mackenzie Davis was fine in the film but it didn't need her character. The shame about the ending is that it wasn't earned because they didn't spend enough time on Sarah and Carl's relationship. They could have easily done this with just Dani, Carl and Sarah and the film would have been much the better for it.

I still think someone from Dani's future needed to be there to protect her as otherwise, how would Carl or Sarah know about her fate? but as I said before, I think it would have been more interesting if Future Dani came back in time to protect herself.

 

[TheFuture]

I still think someone from Dani's future needed to be there to protect her as otherwise, how would Carl or Sarah know about her fate? but as I said before, I think it would have been more interesting if Future Dani came back in time to protect herself.

That's fair, but they could have focused more either on Carl feeding the information or Sarah on her mission before Dani. Either way it would have led to finding Dani.

This is just my opinion but I suspect the character of Grace was created with the plan of casting a quality actor which Mackenzie Davis absolutely is based on Black Mirror and Blade Runner 2049. I don't think they trusted Hamilton or Arnie to carry the film alongside the new Protagonist which is a shame.

 

[Zorro]

Perhaps. But if there's actually a sequel to this, we know where things will likely go and the main characters

 

[Scarlet Spider]

Tim Miller always wanted to work with Mackenzie Davis. He wanted to cast her as Domino in Deadpool 2.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I haven't seen the movie yet but I also

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have a fundamental issue with a movie that kills off John Connor and then replaces him with a stand-in. Way to **** on the sacrifices of Kyle Reese and the T2 Terminator and undo everything everyone fought and died for in the first two movies.

I will eventually watch this, but I can't go and see this in theaters. It would actively piss me off. What gets me is the film itself sounds like it does all this in a manner to reset at the very same point. It's the obsession with turning this into a franchise after a third film, when the third film should be the end. This is the same problem with every flick that has come since T2.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Yeah, I haven't seen it yet so maybe it's handled well, but to me, it almost feels like they

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just threw their hands up in the air and were like, "Well, we can never seem to get it right with John Connor, so let's just effing kill him and move on." I mean, they went from turning him into some mopey Jack Kerouac-wannabe drifter (T3) to a resistance soldier who has nothing to do but hang out in a basement (Salvation) to making him a goddamn Terminator (Genisys). Clearly the concept of "tough as nails freedom fighter who leads the resistance" was too complex of an idea for these geniuses to handle. But while I can empathize with Miller for just wanting to sidestep all that, it just reaffirms the idea that this franchise shouldn't have continued after part 2 because there truly wasn't anywhere else to go. Like others have send, that twist almost feels like it renders the first two films meaningless.

 

[Schlosser85]

Yet another reason why this should have ended with #2.

 

[Deck Rickard]

For those who have seen it, how does CGI Eddie Furlong look? Does it look really fake or did they do a good job with it?

 

[Mysteryman]

When they debuted overseas, how did the last three Terminators sequels do?

 

[R3M3D1]

For those who have seen it, how does CGI Eddie Furlong look? Does it look really fake or did they do a good job with it?

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Very good. But de-aged Sarah Connor looked damn pretty real to me. She looks very similar to what she looked like in T2 when she's sitting at the table with the knive in the desert. Almost looked like they used the actual footage. The T-800 wasn't as good facially but I was quite impressed with the whole scene.

 

[Zorro]

For those who have seen it, how does CGI Eddie Furlong look? Does it look really fake or did they do a good job with it?

Actually well done!

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The body double kid used had a very similar build to Furlong in T2 as well as the hair. The cgi face was mostly hidden but when shown, it was very good

I was very impressed with de-aged Sarah. T-800 was iffy but great compared to Salvation and Genisys

 

[Deck Rickard]

Actually well done!

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The body double kid used had a very similar build to Furlong in T2 as well as the hair. The cgi face was mostly hidden but when shown, it was very good

I was very impressed with de-aged Sarah. T-800 was iffy but great compared to Salvation and Genisys

That's good. This franchise has been so hit-or-miss with that sort of thing. But to be fair, it's probably one of the most difficult things to do with CGI, if not THE most. Even Marvel has been a little iffy with it at times.

 

[Schlosser85]

That's good. This franchise has been so hit-or-miss with that sort of thing. But to be fair, it's probably one of the most difficult things to do with CGI, if not THE most. Even Marvel has been a little iffy with it at times.

I thought Michael Douglas is a little off in the flashbacks in Ant-Man. RDJ was pretty good in Civil War but too smooth or something. Best was probably Sam Jackson in Captain Marvel.

 

[Deck Rickard]

I thought Michael Douglas is a little off in the flashbacks in Ant-Man. RDJ was pretty good in Civil War but too smooth or something. Best was probably Sam Jackson in Captain Marvel.

Yep, agree with all of that. SLJ was damn near perfect but like you said, the others were a little shaky but too smooth, like they've never had a pimple in their lives, lol.

 

[Iceman]

For those who have seen it, how does CGI Eddie Furlong look? Does it look really fake or did they do a good job with it?

I thought it was unused old footage lol. Everyone looked really good in that scene, even if it was a bit too abrupt for me.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Is he 12 years old Furlong from T2 or more 16 years old Furlong from that T2-3D Universal theme park show?

 

[Zorro]

I'd say 14

 

[Iceman]

I'd say 14

Yeah, seems about right.