Action-Adventure Terminator: Dark Fate

[DyeLorean]

Give the keys of the franchise to Blumhouse or A24 and let them do a low budget horror like the first one. Old school atmospheric slasher with scary Terminator/endoskeleton again. No timelines, no future war, just a midnight horror Terminator movie. It can't hurt.

 

[DarkKnight88]

That could be fun, but I wouldn't set it in the present day.Just someone alone getting hunted in the post-apocalyptic future with a T-800. That way it won't feel like just a remake of the first film again.

 

[CadeSkywalker28]

The problem with the sequels was that they were doing T2 over and over again, I'm afraid Blumhouse will do a remake of T1 and then another one.

 

[DarkKnight]

The problem with the sequels was that they were doing T2 over and over again, I'm afraid Blumhouse will do a remake of T1 and then another one.

This is one of the main reasons why I'm a such a Salvation fan. Outside of me liking it for the general setup for the future war (it was in early stages of it); It wasn't afraid to be different and try to bring something new to the franchise. I agree with you 100%, T3, Genisys and Dark Fate all tried to redo or rehash the T1 and especially the T2 films.

 

[Gothamsknight]

biggest crime of salvation you land Bale as Connor, C. effin Bale and you have him take a back seat to S. Worthington like that happened for real lol

That's literally one of my only complaints about Salvation. I still think Salvation is the best of anything that came after T2. Salvation wasn't trying to copy T2 and that's one of the reasons it sort of works for me.

 

[samsnee]

The only thing people remember Salvation for is Bale’s freak out over someone messing with the lights.

 

[P Supreme]

Taskmaster

Spoiler

didn't appear as a literal joke in this movie despite being an unfaithful adaptation.

That's literally one of my only complaints about Salvation. I still think Salvation is the best of anything that came after T2. Salvation wasn't trying to copy T2 and that's one of the reasons it sort of works for me.

To me as well but Sam Worthington has 0 charisma and he was forced down our throat at least imo didn't follow the production was that a suggestion by Camron after avatar ? Cause I truly don't get it

 

[Vaibow]

One thing they could do imo is using Different universes/Timelines clashing.
One Last big story that brings back all the "important" characters from the various Timelines and stuff.

But i think for that the Franchise name isnt as big anymore that someone would try this financially etc.

You could branch it off and make a new IP where the focus is on fighting Skynet, but the Terminator concept doesnt have too much left that hasnt been explored.

Thing is, they need to take it back to it's roots... a sci fi horror movie.

smaller budget, great writing and characters. Terminator was a victim of it's own success with T2.

For me, I would have a unique story, set in the 80s where another t800 is sent back alongside what we saw in the original movie, it fails the mission and is trapped in a bunker/cesspit etc

The small town doesn't know the dark secret it keeps, under the barn floor.

As skynet develops decades later, it picks up the distress call and sends operatives to retrieve the cyborg, human operatives - plot twist, they are actually t800s

 

[TheVileOne]

You've literally mined every avenue you can to attempt to revive the franchise and it hasn't worked. That included a TV series.

 

[henzINNIT]

It'll never die. There is always another angle. And they've struck gold before so somebody will keep digging.

This would be my go-to franchise to study if I needed to relaunch a property. They've failed in so many different ways by now that it has become quite definitive.

 

[TheVileOne]

It'll never die. There is always another angle. And they've struck gold before so somebody will keep digging.

This would be my go-to franchise to study if I needed to relaunch a property. They've failed in so many different ways by now that it has become quite definitive.

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy of failure.

Corn Pone Flicks sort of got across all the major points I agree with on the sequels. The best avenue to go was a future war sequel. Instead all the movies continue to try and essentially remake T1&2.

Meanwhile, the one future war movie laid a total egg. And rather than focus on John Connor, they made Marcus the main character.

 

[samsnee]

They’ll never try to make a “small” Terminator movie again. It will always be trying to chase T2 money.

 

[Mysteryman]

They’ll never try to make a “small” Terminator movie again. It will always be trying to chase T2 money.

That is why I treasure The Terminator above all of the other films.

 

[Detective Conan]

Oral History of T2

 

[henzINNIT]

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy of failure.

It's crazy to me. Every new attempt has had merit but it's always squandered by weak writing and a franchise plan.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Metalhead (Black Mirror episode) is probably the closest thing we’ll ever get to a small Terminator movie.

 

[samsnee]

T2 is available on Netflix now. Do you think it’s possible for someone to not know anything about the first Terminator and still enjoy this? Would the “twist” of Arnold being good resonant if you didn’t know he was the bad guy in the first one?

 

[DarkKnight88]

I’d have to assume many who saw the sequel, hadn’t even seen the first when it was first released. The first was a moderate hit, but became a cult classic. The second became a giant blockbuster right out the gate, also when Arnold was at his ultimate fame. The second does a pretty good job of explaining the first in case you went in cold. I know the same for many who saw Aliens before they ever saw Alien.

 

[samsnee]

Yeah I’m debating showing it to my younger son but wonder if I should wait til he’s older so he can the first one first. But that one is definitely not as kid friendly. Plus he’s already seen other Arnold movies like Twins and K-Cop so he would automatically assume he’s the good guy in T2 regardless.

 

[Iceman]

It's crazy to me. Every new attempt has had merit but it's always squandered by weak writing and a franchise plan.

Pretty hard to get past weak writing. Not much point in all this ambition if they can’t deliver the quality required. There are so many out there who want these films to be a success and want to love what is put in front of them. How can the studio/creators look back at T1 and T2 and then be happy with what has been served up since?

 

[jignat]

Alien , Predator, and Terminator films need to die.

 

[Kane52630]

 

[Vaibow]

T2 is available on Netflix now. Do you think it’s possible for someone to not know anything about the first Terminator and still enjoy this? Would the “twist” of Arnold being good resonant if you didn’t know he was the bad guy in the first one?

As a kid I watched this before the first... had no idea of the twist.. loved it, had all the toys etc... when I was a bit older I saw the first and hated it...

 

[Vaibow]

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy of failure.

Corn Pone Flicks sort of got across all the major points I agree with on the sequels. The best avenue to go was a future war sequel. Instead all the movies continue to try and essentially remake T1&2.

Meanwhile, the one future war movie laid a total egg. And rather than focus on John Connor, they made Marcus the main character.

They need to make it a personal story... I had this idea where it's the future and it's a group of people just hiding out, in a bunker, as it ravages above them... they sneak out to get food etc and it's just a nightmare... then, a t800 arrives and they catch it, they manage to hack it, learn from it, they find a message encoded in his matrix, from the future, knowing what would happen... as it's one of the survivors from that group who send it back.

 

[Zantera]

I think they're doing this with the new Predator movie but I always thought a Terminator movie set in the past would be cool. I love the T-800 and I also love the T-1000 but any terminator beyond that just feels redundant and 'upgraded for the sake of being upgraded'. I also feel a rising issue with setting it in modern day is that our weaponry does get more advanced and I feel it would be more scary to see people deal with the threat of a terminator back when weapons were weaker (and fewer) rather than set it in modern day when everyone owns a grenade launcher.