Terminator: Genisys - Part 4

[Schlosser85]

Why does 1984 Arnold look so much worse in the new trailer than he did in the first one though?

 

[dark_b]

it looks like that they used an old cgi shot from 2014 . i hope noone at the studio is that stupid to think that the shot in the new trailer looks better.

 

[titansupes]

WHAT IS GOING ON?

Oh, what the hell?

T2 was so ahead of it's time. It truly was a shift in what could be achieved. I know we take it for granted now but sitting back in the theater in 1991, no one had ever seen anything like the T-1000.

Cameron really took a huge risk. There was the pseudopod sequence in The Abyss (which was basically testing ground for the T-1000) but that was one short sequence, that he could cut out if they couldn't pull it. He couldn't do that with T2.

 

[Rocketman]

I will say, this is one of my favorite film series/franchises ever, even if half the films are great. But damn, I just started watching The Sarah Connor Chronicles, and hooooooly crap, that show is perhaps the best Terminator thing out there. Like, have you guys SEEN it?

 

[DA_Champion]

I will say, this is one of my favorite film series/franchises ever, even if half the films are great. But damn, I just started watching The Sarah Connor Chronicles, and hooooooly crap, that show is perhaps the best Terminator thing out there. Like, have you guys SEEN it?

It's very good stuff.

First half of season two dips, but the second half of season two is amazing.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

I will say, this is one of my favorite film series/franchises ever, even if half the films are great.

Good to know that James Cameron's masterpieces are some of your favorite films ever.

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

WHAT IS GOING ON?

 

[vanson]

wow.. i mean i'll wait for the finished movie to come out, but those shots look ridiculous ^^..

 

[Scarlet Spider]

New trailer.

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[DA_Champion]

Garbage trailer spoils the entire plot.

On the bright side, Hollywood is finally giving us an action scene on the golden gate bridge.

 

[The Shape]

Pretty lousy trailer, and I see they decided to spoil the "twist".

 

[BeserkerHilf]

Garbage trailer spoils the entire plot.

On the bright side, Hollywood is finally giving us an action scene on the golden gate bridge.

We got a pretty classy one (one that was smart and used the distinguishable fog that said, "this isn't any other bridge.") with Rise of the Planet of the Apes.

If they had decided to set this movie in Los Angeles, bet you they could've staged the action just the same.

 

[Herolee10]

I'll never understand why Terminator trailers tend to spoil plot twists. I mean imagine what it would have been like for people had they gone into theaters for T2 without knowing about the fact that Arnold's Terminator was now on John's side because with the way the film was shot and written, it left it at a mystery of who's side the Terminator was on until his confrontation with the T-1000.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Pretty lousy trailer, and I see they decided to spoil the "twist".

I think this may be one of those cases where a bunch of studio executives were sitting in a room, trying to figure out how they're going to convince people that this movie isn't just a crappy rehash of everything we've already seen, and they were like, "Wait, should we just show the twist in the trailers? Eh, f*** it, why not?"

 

[jmc]

Um, what the hell did I just watch?

 

[Rocketman]

Just based on this new trailer, I think it's safe to say that this looks better than T3 and Salvation, so we have that going for us. Whether or not it is better remains to be seen. If we get the first great Terminator movie since 1991, we win.

I do like how they're mixing things up. It's not a straightforward remake, which I sort of like, but it's definitely going to alienate the people who aren't very familiar with the other films. I hope you don't have to be a hardcore fan to fully grasp it, because they'll lose half the audience right there.

It also appears that Arnold isn't the main star of the film (which is refreshing), but I'm also concerned that there isn't a main character, which is where The Phantom Menace failed. It looks to be filled with supporting characters and we're never following one person.

Here's what I ultimately think: This is either going to be like Live Free/A Good Day to Die Hard, or it's going to be like Rise/Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. It's either going to be a nostalgic cash-grab 20 years later, or it's going to take the franchise in new and exciting directions.

 

[chamber-music]

It looks like a bunch of studio execs trying to milk every last dime out a franchise by coming up up with silly plot ideas to prolong the franchise.

Some of the jokes seem T3 level cheesy and that CGI eighties Arnold is terrible.

 

[Heisenberg]

The more I see of this, the more I ask "Why?". Terminator/T2 laid out a pretty simple blueprint for success. T3 went for spectacle and was a mess. Salvation at least decided to approach an interest part of the mythology that people wanted to see more of, the future war, but suffered bad writing/directing. This just feels like a mess. John sends Kyle back to save Sarah from Arnold who's fighting old Arnold, but Sarah's expecting Kyle to be sent from John and doesn't need the help, not to mention that John is now some new terminator, unless he's not, in which case it's a terminator that looks like John, but isn't... Ugh.

It honestly feels like someone had an original idea, then someone butt-in and said "this film must have Arnold in it.". It's contradictory. It's a reboot that's not actually a reboot, a remake that isn't exactly a remake... it's a new direction, new story, with old characters and retreading old ground.

Edit: Jai Courtney, stop being in things.

 

[Rowsdower!]

And not to mention, we get yet ANOTHER rehash of "old dialogue spoken by new characters" in this trailer... this time around, it's Arnold spouting the T-1000's "Get out!" line.

Now all I need is Jai Courtney saying to Sarah, "I know now why you cry. But it's something I can never do because I'm a mediocre actor."

 

[Supernova]

Smdh in anger and disgust. This trailer sealed its fate in my eyes,

- old arnold
- bad cgi
- john connor as a freaking terminator are you kidding me
- redoing T1 and T2... Really..... Really
- plot holes galore
- jai courtney (poor mans sam worthington)
- michael Biehn is rolling over in his acting career grave

 

[jmc]

I don't think that trailer did anything to solve the issues this film has had with marketing itself.

 

[Supernova]

I don't think that trailer did anything to solve the issues this film has had with marketing itself.

Give it another couple weeks and well get another trailer and tv spots with all the money shots and maybe the ending.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Well one, huge spoilers in that trailer. Two, confirms all the rumors. Three, how does this movie look crappier then T2? Like way cheaper, 25 years later.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Well one, huge spoilers in that trailer. Two, confirms all the rumors. Three, how does this movie look crappier then T2? Like way cheaper, 25 years later.

Two words: Alan Taylor.

 

[jmc]

I really can't help but think they've just turn a confusing mess into a complete cluster ****. They've just given away John's some weird hybrid human/terminator. What pony tailed sporting, Hawaiian shirt wearing executive thought that was a good idea?