Terminator: Genisys - Part 6

[TeeKay]

Also Kyle act like a ***** in this movie. Never once seemed like a soldier who's been at war for years smh

 

[Gold Samurai]

I agree.

While Die Hard 2 only has one great scene (the grenades in the cockpit).

Die Hard 3 has a few.

I like Die Hard 3 for it's mid 90's New York setting.

 

[Jay Beezy]

My biggest problem with the movie is probably a weird one, but I feel like the score was just not memorable at all. I guess it doesn't help that T2 has one of the most memorable scores, and while I guess it applies to most movies these days, it just sucks when there's nothing interesting going on musically.

T1 had a really memorable score as well. Brad Fiedel took his awesome hero anthem from the main title and managed to make it a beautiful love theme for Kyle and Sarah's love scene.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

I see your point. But to be fair, it's not like this movie is physically destroying every copy of T1 and T2 out there. People can still watch them and enjoy them.

Look, from my perspective T1 & T2 will always be the original source material and the only true canon in the Terminator mythology. Everything else has been bad fan fiction.

I just take issue with the notion that this is more harmless than T3 or Salvation. Those were harmless. Same with The Sarah Connor Chronicles TV show because none of those changed anything from the first two.

This one does.

 

[terry78]

Yeah, this one is basically hitting you over the head with "we are in continuity with the first two flicks. We are not a dream, not a fanfic thing....this is real.""

 

[Supernova]

I cant wait to see this and just laugh and treat it like a red headed step child.

 

[Hunter Rider]

It opened in Europe already or at least select countries.

Interesting, it doesn't open in the UK until next week and usually either us or the US are first.

 

[BigA]

I'm at least hoping there are some classic Arnie one-liners or quotes. T3 wasn't great, but it had some funny ones. Some of my favorites.

"Your confusion is not rational. She's a healthy female of breeding age."

"My database does not encompass the dynamics of human pair bonding."

“Your levity is good, it relieves tension and the fear of death.” Both Kate and John look at him and are like WTF.

 

[Mysteryman]

I have always wondered if the series will ever have the Cojones a to Make Arnold's Terminator a bad guy again.
I think people will line up to see that.

 

[mikeboydus]

At least they got the theme right. The overall soundtrack sounds better than T3 or Salvation. I noticed it borrows a number of cues from Junkie XLs 300: Rise of an Empire and Mad Max Fury Road scores. I wonder if he was involved in the making any?

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[Mysteryman]

Christophe Beck was the composer.
I don't know who his influences were.
EDIT: Beck was replaced by Lorne Balfe.

 

[mikeboydus]

Lorne Balfe replaced Beck in March. Exec Producer is Hans Zimmer. I know Junkie XL works with Zimmer, so that could explain it.

The whole soundtrack can be listened to on youtube here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK1K_zyw8gs&list=PLITg6Aq3mE1X2DgeU4ntfrwV5RcTO37ww

 

[Mysteryman]

Yeah, I was just about to suggest the Zimmer possibility.
While I am tempted to listen to the soundtrack,
I usually wait until after I have seen the film.
Thanks though.

 

[mikeboydus]

I'd wait until the film then. It will be a pleasant surprise. Much better than Elfman's score for Salvation and light years beyond Beltrami's score for T3.

If you like Zimmer's score for King Arthur and Junkie XL's for 300 Rise of an Empire and Mad Max Fury Road, you'll enjoy this one.

 

[Snow Queen]

Yikes, that plot summary...

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yikes, that plot summary...

But it might be better then 3 and Salvation. Zod, do I hate that reasoning. The first two films weren't awesome because they were better then crappy movies. They were great because a lot of skill, attention and creativity went into them. Why are so many ok with a new mediocre film in franchises that were built on great ones?

 

[Scarlet Spider]

I despise that reasoning as well and it was the same nonsense people used to defend Salvation (At least it's better than T3!) after it was quickly forgotten.

Terminator is sacred ground to me. It's a property I'm extremely protective of (and one that's near and dear to my heart.) If your going to attempt to make another one, you better give it the A-list treatment (Fury Road quality for example) or else LEAVE IT ALONE.

 

[dark_b]

I'm serious.

Spoiler

At Cyberdime or what ever you spell it has been developing liquid metal and you actually see the machines tryingbto form a human body out of it. At the climax, the T-800 is fighting John inside the time travel machine whilst Kyle and Sarah and escape. Pretty cool scene ill admit but then you see the T-800 tossed outside the machine and into the pool of liquid metal and sinks in there. When Kyle and Sarah are hiding in a vault, you see liquid metal hinges opening the door (similar to what the T-1000 did in T2 when it was opening the elevator at the mental institute) and then the T-800 walks in. I was like F******K YOU!!!!!!!

 

[Marvolo]

Spoiler

Does the T-800 become bad at the end of TG or does he just get an upgrade?

Honest Trailers - T2 : Judgment Day
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[TeeKay]

Spoiler

Hes not bad at all. He just gets an upgrade. He's has the abilities of a T_1000 now. Smh

 

[Marvolo]

Spoiler

I dont really get whats the big deal with the upgrade. After 4 films, 3 of which involved him giving his all to save humanity, I think an upgrade was earned. Its not like his old fashioned metal skeleton is the main defining aspect of the character at this point. The personality and characterization of the Terminator is his defining aspects at this point and that surely won't change by him getting an upgrade.

 

[Jay Beezy]

Spoiler

Hes not bad at all. He just gets an upgrade. He's has the abilities of a T_1000 now. Smh

Spoiler

That actually doesn't bother me.

I'm still bothered that they felt the need to overwrite T2, though.

At the same time, life just got a lot easier now that the good guys have their very own buddy T-1000 on their side.

On top of that, the watering down of the franchise to appeal to younger folks comes at the cost of its tone.

 

[TeeKay]

It didn't feel earned for me because the film wasn't executed properly and didn't really built up to it. It was a WTF moment for me. All lot of it came down to the director I feel. Taylor is just not that good. A lot of the things in the film were very superficial IMO.

 

[terry78]

Just because you direct Game of Thrones episodes doesn't mean you know how to direct a classic franchise.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

Thor The Dark World was totally the work of a yes man, no personality, no nothing.