Terminator: Genisys

[Marvolo]

The R rating isn't just about gore and language. R allows for more general intensity, and just generally frees up the director. The biggest advantage is shooting for an R can make dealing with the MPAA less of a hassle. And the less that a director has to fight with them the better.

I'd much rather this have had a smaller budget and an R rating than a bloated budget and a PG-13.

It's not a deal breaker tho. This film will probably have bigger issues than the rating.

 

[Teelie]

Marvolo posted what I was going to say. An R-rating loosens the restrictions and freedoms on a movie to give it an oppurtunity to be better. PG-13 is tying their hands so they can't do anything too graphic or intense.

By saying being PG-13 won't hurt it is deflecting. This movie probably won't be very good and an R rating won't help it any but the watered down restriction isn't doing it any favors either.

 

[dude stannis]

Lets not go through this all over again. Thanks to the rating it will look the same as every other summer movie (I.E. cutaways, terminators throwing poeple around like basketballs). It wont have real terminations and more importantly it wont have the general sense of dread and urgency the first two did.

Of course no one is going to listen again, so enjoy your disappointment.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Lets not go through this all over again. Thanks to the rating it will look the same as every other summer movie (I.E. cutaways, terminators throwing poeple around like basketballs). It wont have real terminations and more importantly it wont have the general sense of dread and urgency the first two did.

Of course no one is going to listen again, so enjoy your disappointment.

This about sums it up.

 

[antonydelfini]

Im feeling less and less excited about this as time goes by. I would have been more excited with a violent lower budget movie that has a horror feel to it like the first Terminator movie. This feels like a tame generic sci-fi action movie. Hopefully Im wrong.

 

[dude stannis]

Honestly even with an R rating, should we even care anymore? Arnold should be a side character in action movies these days and the Terminator as a whole concept is exhausted.

 

[Warhammer]

I want to be excited for this. I really do...but I can not.

 

[Fallen Angel]

I want to be excited for this. I really do...but I can not.

Me as well but I'll probably be there opening night.

 

[StarLord]

Honestly even with an R rating, should we even care anymore? Arnold should be a side character in action movies these days and the Terminator as a whole concept is exhausted.

I don't really care if Arnie is a part of it or not, to be honest.

The rest of the cast however, are far more interesting. I'm a huge fan of Jason Clarke and Byung-hun Lee.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Lets not go through this all over again. Thanks to the rating it will look the same as every other summer movie (I.E. cutaways, terminators throwing poeple around like basketballs). It wont have real terminations and more importantly it wont have the general sense of dread and urgency the first two did.

Of course no one is going to listen again, so enjoy your disappointment.

And I can let all that go. But Genisys?

It just makes me cringe, like when you see common names spelled "creatively".

Say what you will about Salvation, but at least the title was spelled properly.

 

[Thundercrack85]

you always see the Throwanator syndrome. but until you dont see 5-10 clips together you dont realize how stupid it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLPMGLsf1c0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3aqGRzL0BY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XLu_NTu4aY

eee its a machine made for killing........yet its............grabbing and throwing humans around.

p.s.: the answer is not blood and ripped body parts. the answer is smart pg113 scripts and smart directing.

You know, I don't often speak well of the Abrams Star Trek movies, but the way they had Sherlock Holmes off that guy played by Robocop was pretty good.

 

[Teelie]

The silly thing is that people really expected it be R. I mean really guys? People should not be surprised when a movie isnt R nowadays.

And I can let all that go. But Genisys?

It just makes me cringe, like when you see common names spelled "creatively".

Say what you will about Salvation, but at least the title was spelled properly.

I don't mind creative names when they are actually good or in a proper context. Neither feels that way with this title.

If the movie is any good I will watch it. I've seen movies that had stupid titles but were good (though I can't think of any offhand).

 

[Doctor Jones]

Honestly even with an R rating, should we even care anymore? Arnold should be a side character in action movies these days and the Terminator as a whole concept is exhausted.

I'm hoping for a Rise of the Planet of the Apes situation. But that type of thing was surprising because that was an anomaly. A reboot of a once popular franchise being successful twice in four years does seem unlikely. In hindsight, Apes had the advantage of Andy Serkis and the new angle of approaching the apes.

 

[dude stannis]

I'm hoping for a Rise of the Planet of the Apes situation. But that type of thing was surprising because that was an anomaly. A reboot of a once popular franchise being successful twice in four years does seem unlikely. In hindsight, Apes had the advantage of Andy Serkis and the new angle of approaching the apes.

Exactly. Trying to make a Back to the Future 2 style entry reeks of desperation. "Hey guys remember the Terminator movies you actually liked? Here they are (but bloodless and without the swearing)! Please like us!"

 

[Roose Bolton]

Exactly. Trying to make a Back to the Future 2 style entry reeks of desperation. "Hey guys remember the Terminator movies you actually liked? Here they are (but bloodless and without the swearing)! Please like us!"

If they want to win me over then they'll need JCVD as Skynet. I won't accept anything else.

 

[dude stannis]

Well yeah JCVD as the villain in anything can win me over.

 

[#root]

Yeah, I have little to no faith in this movie. I really don't think Terminator was ever meant to be a franchise. The first one was a solid b-movie and the sequel was a sci-fi action classic, but it wrapped up the story. There wasn't really anywhere interesting to go after that, because they appeared to stop judgment day from happening. But then they pulled the "Oh, wait! We didn't really stop it because this, this and this!" card, and it's been going downhill ever since. And not only has it produced two (and probably three) bad movies, but it also makes T2's resolution essentially meaningless.

This. Both sequels to T2 have been bad and both make T2's ending pointless.

They've managed to get some pretty good actors for this, but I really don't have much faith in this. I'll still end up watching it eventually, maybe even in the theatres if the trailers and the reviews are good. But right now this movie just makes me sad that they won't let this franchise rest already.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

All the talk about the title reminds me of...Inglourious Basterds. At least they spelled "Terminator" right.

 

[Rowsdower!]

All the talk about the title reminds me of...Inglourious Basterds. At least they spelled "Terminator" right.

Yeah, but misspelling the name in that movie made sense since Brad Pitt's character was supposed to be near-illiterate. Here, it's just silly, unless it's established somewhere that Skynet can't spell.

 

[Solidus]

Genisys is created by people from the looks of the set reports just like all the other funky tech names out there that do the same thing. Really I could care less about the spelling. I just hope it's good, but am still very weary.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Lets not go through this all over again. Thanks to the rating it will look the same as every other summer movie (I.E. cutaways, terminators throwing poeple around like basketballs). It wont have real terminations and more importantly it wont have the general sense of dread and urgency the first two did.

Of course no one is going to listen again, so enjoy your disappointment.

It is sad how true this is.

 

[Galactus123]

I really hope this movie will have the Terminator theme melody. It just adds the right feel:

 

[Loki882]

What's weird is that it's not like the first two movies weren't REALLY successful despite being rated-R. The Terminator made almost $80 million on a budget of barely $6 million. Terminator 2 made over $500 million on a budget of around $100 million, and those numbers are just the theatrical releases (let alone video sales/rentals, merchandising, advertising, etc). Meanwhile, the PG-13 remakes/sequels that have been released recently have tended to underperform if not flat-out bomb. So the fact that they keep trying to do this makes little sense to me.

 

[titansupes]

^ I do agree. History shows bringing an R-rated blockbuster down to PG-13 rarely works, if ever. Usually results in gutting the thing. However, I do believe that with the right people making it, a PG-13 movie can be every bit as intense as something R. Look at TDK.

 

[Loki882]

Oh I'm not saying that you cannot do an intense PG-13 movie. Heck Christopher Nolan has made a career out of it, and TWS also proved that again last year. And the fourth Die Hard movie (which I admittedly liked) proves that you CAN take an R-rated franchise, make it PG-13, and still have it be a big success. But that film seems to be one of the very few exceptions. And the whole idea just seems rather pointless imo.