That person who has to argue about EVERYTHING you say.

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This will be a rant. Don't read if you're not interested. I'm simply posting this because I need a record of this somewhere on the Internet in case I get arrested for murder. :awesome:

In this particular case, it's my roommate. There is no escape from her. And it's not something I can lightly sweep under a rug. This chick feels the urge to argue about every. single. sentence. that comes out of my mouth. Do you know people like this? Don't you hate it?

Literally, if I say the sky is blue, there will be a retort.
If I say I'm going shopping for groceries, there will be some issue about I went shopping "the wrong way."

Actual example: Today, I mentioned (just in passing) that back in the day, during the era of "Revenge of the Nerds," that the word "nerd" was usually associated with wearing glasses or having braces on your teeth (in other words, that was a stereotype). I mention that this was a common way of thinking for some people - not everyone. I myself have braces and glasses (and I have braces simply because I'm at a point where I can now afford them).

Her response? I'm completely wrong. Braces and glasses have nothing to do with the term "nerd." There was no stereotype back in the day. I randomly made all of that up because I like to make things up. She's never heard of braces and glasses being used in the same breath as the word "nerd," so I have to be incorrect. No compromise. No "I kind of see your point." No "Hmm, I never heard of that, but it makes sense." Just me being 100% WRONG, 100% of the time.

There is no room for differing opinion.
There is no room for you to defend yourself.
She is woman. Hear her roar.
And everything that comes out of her mouth is an argument.
She's like an Argument Generator.
A Retort Machine.
It never ends.
I go days without speaking to her.

She is single, "has no interest" in dating anyone.
Meanwhile, in reality, I can't think of a single human male who would actually consider dating her (and enjoying it).

Also, just for argument's sake, let's say I actually am wrong some of the time (That's fair, right?). Does she really need to argue even if I am wrong? Couldn't she just keep her all-knowing knowledge to herself? Must there be an argument at all? Couldn't she just shut up and quietly laugh to herself about how wrong I am?

Rant over.

NOTE: I live with her because she's my girlfriend's best friend. We all three moved in together. I, being ******ed, thought this would be a good idea. Now there is no escape.
 
My 13 year old does this sort of thing. However, if I'm talking about something before her time, she'll just ignore me.
 
OMG! You just described my coworker to an effin' "T"!! She does the same thing to us everyday. She also has no one and no interest in dating. Her husband left her over 10 years ago when she was pregnant with her son. Yeah that was effed up but now I get it! I woulda left her @ss too! I think your roommate is my coworkers twin!
 
Oh, so this is the chaseter thread?
 
These bots are getting creative.
 
This will be a rant.


This was not a rant. You don't understand the definition of a rant.

You're just wrong. 100% wrong.
 
OMG! You just described my coworker to an effin' "T"!! She does the same thing to us everyday. She also has no one and no interest in dating. Her husband left her over 10 years ago when she was pregnant with her son. Yeah that was effed up but now I get it! I woulda left her @ss too! I think your roommate is my coworkers twin!

Does she work for a retail chain that starts with T and ends with Arget? :woot:
 
Yeah, let's talk about her more.
Attractive? She sounds like she would be into freakish things. Like **** and chests, and what have you.

:up: ???
 
my friend john is like this, and my step dad too to an extent, but its more for interesting conversation when he does it, but my friend tends to screw himself over when he does lol
 
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Next time she does this, tell her that you've never been more aroused in your life. That every time she mentions one of your shortcomings or how wrong you are, you get just the slightest bit harder. That the next negative word she says is going to make you lose control and that you are to submit to your urge to slam that ass as hard and rough as you can. You need to keep a straight face the entire time and sound like you mean every word. 1 of 3 things is going to happen next:

1. You get your **** wet.
2. She never EVER says another negative thing to you.
3. She gets really creeped out, moves, and you get another roommate

Whichever option she chooses, you win.
 
This will be a rant. Don't read if you're not interested. I'm simply posting this because I need a record of this somewhere on the Internet in case I get arrested for murder. :awesome:

In this particular case, it's my roommate. There is no escape from her. And it's not something I can lightly sweep under a rug. This chick feels the urge to argue about every. single. sentence. that comes out of my mouth. Do you know people like this? Don't you hate it?

Literally, if I say the sky is blue, there will be a retort.
If I say I'm going shopping for groceries, there will be some issue about I went shopping "the wrong way."

Actual example: Today, I mentioned (just in passing) that back in the day, during the era of "Revenge of the Nerds," that the word "nerd" was usually associated with wearing glasses or having braces on your teeth (in other words, that was a stereotype). I mention that this was a common way of thinking for some people - not everyone. I myself have braces and glasses (and I have braces simply because I'm at a point where I can now afford them).

Her response? I'm completely wrong. Braces and glasses have nothing to do with the term "nerd." There was no stereotype back in the day. I randomly made all of that up because I like to make things up. She's never heard of braces and glasses being used in the same breath as the word "nerd," so I have to be incorrect. No compromise. No "I kind of see your point." No "Hmm, I never heard of that, but it makes sense." Just me being 100% WRONG, 100% of the time.

There is no room for differing opinion.
There is no room for you to defend yourself.
She is woman. Hear her roar.
And everything that comes out of her mouth is an argument.
She's like an Argument Generator.
A Retort Machine.
It never ends.
I go days without speaking to her.

She is single, "has no interest" in dating anyone.
Meanwhile, in reality, I can't think of a single human male who would actually consider dating her (and enjoying it).

Also, just for argument's sake, let's say I actually am wrong some of the time (That's fair, right?). Does she really need to argue even if I am wrong? Couldn't she just keep her all-knowing knowledge to herself? Must there be an argument at all? Couldn't she just shut up and quietly laugh to herself about how wrong I am?

Rant over.

NOTE: I live with her because she's my girlfriend's best friend. We all three moved in together. I, being ******ed, thought this would be a good idea. Now there is no escape.

Firstly, thanks for your rant. As much as you might hate this, it make me laugh out loud :p :D

It gave me the need to rant myself, so here goes.

My pet hates in arguements and my attempts at solutions:

1. People who argue with anyone who challenges something they have just made up, even though it's a complete lie.


I know quite a few compulsive liars.

Trouble is, a lot of them, if you tell them they are wrong, will argue until they are blue in the face that you're wrong.

Solution: I have found there is only one way for me to keep my cool with them. I google it.

As long as I KNOW I am right, I can breathe a sigh and just keep my mouth shut and laugh about it with my friends later.

I don't know why that works, but it just does
:hehe:

2. People who start arguements with me in front of other people, and then when I am winning, get them involved.

It is impossible to win an arguement if the whole room is against you. Because what happens is that YOU become the arguementative one to all of them... regardless of who started it, or how important the issue is to you, if your the only one who disagrees with everyone else, your the one causing the problem.

I have this problem all the time at work.

SOLUTION: Do not get sucked into arguements unless you know that there is no one the other person can use as 'back up' around.

3. People who back track on their own arguement and deny saying the very thing that started it all!

It's the times you wished you had a dictophone on record at all times.

A move like this is almost always followed by my flabbergasted loud question 'Well then what the hell are we argueing about, if that's not what you said?'... person's response = 'You tell me. You tell me,' in a patronising tone.

SOLUTION: Carry a dictophone with you at all times
:p

4. People who start an arguement, and then walk off

My mother does this. She will literally come in and scream at me for something, then leave the room and if I follow in order to say something in my defense, will hold her hand up and say 'I don't want to argue about it anymore!'

I don't get a turn?

NOOOOOOOOOO!

Every single person on this earth, when confronted with an accusation or an assertion they disagree with, should have the right to REPLY to it.

That is just basic civility, respect and equality.

It really, really, really makes me angry :cmad:

SOLUTION: ????? If anyone has one, i'm all ears!

Now - On to your problem


There are only going to be a few ways to get out of this one, if the girl is as arguementative as you say.

Option 1: Anything you can prove, prove.

Don't waste your breathe telling her. She can argue with anything that comes out of your mouth, but she can't argue with facts. As I said before. Google it, the internet is wonderful and full of things that will shut people up.

For instance, here is a quote from wikipedia on the subject of nerds:

The stereotypical nerd is intelligent but socially and physically awkward.In film and television depictions, nerds are disproportionately white male with very large glasses, braces, severe acne and pants highly lifted up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerd

I think that sufficiently proves your point.

If that's not enough, google the phrase 'Nerd Sterotype' on image search. I just did. The first four images where of guys with glasses and goofy teeth.

Downside - It won't work for opinions really. Plus, there is always the danger of counter proof if she's really good.


Option 2: Try to organise your own 'back up' crew.

Invite your friends round. Slip the 'debate' you and your housemate where having into conversation when she is in the room. Ask your friends what they think (obviously make sure they agree with you first :p).

Let's see if she has the guts to argue with the whole room.

Downside - She might. And she might hold the ambush against you.

Option 3: Simply do not engage in conversation.

I'm not saying ignore her completely. Ask her about her day and stuff. But do not under any circumstance talk about an opinion, something you learned about, something you know about... anything that could be contested.

Downside - She will eventually start an arguement with you about why you've been so off with her.

Option 4: Wholeheartedly agree with everything she says.

This is a very difficult card to play, and is usually a last ditch effort for me. For one thing, it's hard to do it without looking sarcastic, especially if you really really disagree.

Downside - If she's a really bad arguer, she'll probably disagree with your agreement.

For example: You - The sky is blue. Her - No it's not. You - No, it's not your right, it's not blue. Her - Don't be silly, it's blue, I just meant that it's not JUST blue.

Or something to that effect...


Anyway man, Good Luck defeating the beast.

But there is really only one solution.

Get out of it's mouth!!!!!
 
Next time she does this, tell her that you've never been more aroused in your life. That every time she mentions one of your shortcomings or how wrong you are, you get just the slightest bit harder. That the next negative word she says is going to make you lose control and that you are to submit to your urge to slam that ass as hard and rough as you can. You need to keep a straight face the entire time and sound like you mean every word. 1 of 3 things is going to happen next:

1. You get your **** wet.
2. She never EVER says another negative thing to you.
3. She gets really creeped out, moves, and you get another roommate

Whichever option she chooses, you win.

Can't go wrong with this. :woot:
 
Yeah, toxic people man. I knew this girl, she was the best friend of my ex. I'm from NY, my ex NJ, and this girl lives in Boston. So every time she would come to visit my ex she would end up staying at my place in Queens because I guess she wanted to stay in NY.

Now, I don't get into arguments and fights. Yet this chick (who is a damn communist) used to take issue with everything I did. I owned a Lexus, I owned a 3 bedroom house in NY, I made good money. All evils to her. My friends she also took issue with, found fault with every single one of them.

Hell, she even almost got me arrested once in the Village outside a club. She was drunk, and boy is she a violent drunk. She decided to freak out, get mad and start screaming "rape." Yup, imagine me trying to explain to cops that this chick who I'm trying to get into the car and safely home I'm not trying to rape, in fact I'm her best friend's boyfriend and I'm just trying to get this drunk mess home.

The last straw though was when she disrespected my house with my buds over. You know how it is, it's a Thursday night, all the buds are over to watch UFC and Sportscenter after, I'm on the couch with my gf and she comes in complaining about all the testosterone in the room and why we have to always be watching sports. Then she proceeded to light a cigarette in my living room! There is one simple rule, don't smoke in my house. I have a backyard with a nice set of patio furniture you can comfortably lunge upon and smoke, or a front stoop, but don't smoke in my place.

Oh that was it. I went off. This chick using my house as her base of operations when she wants to party in NY under the guise of staying with her best friend (who happens to live in NJ, but happens to have a dude who has a house in NY). Disrespectful to all the hard work I've done to buy a house in NY in my 20's talking her commie bs. Then when I try to keep her drunk butt safe I almost get arrested, then disrespecting my buds in my house, then disrespecting my house.
 
Is that why the GF is your ex? Because you couldn't take her BF anymore?
 
She sounds like my sister.... And my best friend's ex-girlfriend.
 
Is that why the GF is your ex? Because you couldn't take her BF anymore?

No, there was another reason my ex and I broke up. In fact, here's a tidbit for you, I'm such a nice guy that for years after the ex and I broke up when this chick would come to NY I would accommodate her. I'm not wicked, I've got the space and it was just my sister and I living in a 3 bedroom so I used to let her come spend the odd weekend when she was in town.

Yeah, seems like she got a good deal out of it right? Doesn't even need to pretend to be visiting her friend to stay in NY.

I viewed it this way. I used to ride people's couches in Boston when I went to the Berklee summer program. Many of my lifelong musician friends are from that experience. In those visits there was also the odd weekend or two I would stay at her apartment too. There's was a period there when with my friends and music stuff in Boston, my ex's college in RI, my ex's home in NJ and my place in Queens there was always someone staying at somebody elses place on any given weekend. A wicked New England cycle of couch riding and mooching. LOL.
 

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