The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Nitpick Thread

[Nathan]

Why would Peter fight crime before Uncle Ben's death? That would make Ben's death completely unnecessary, from a character standpoint.

Here's what I posted in another Thread, when we had that discussion.

I can buy it. Imagine you're a guy with super powers, swinging around the city and suddenly you see a guy stealing something. Since Spidey was a bit more of a jerk at first, he'd probably think this is the perfect opportunity to have fun with someone. I could also see it as taking out his frustration, from being the target of countless bullies at his school. He can't beat Flash up as Peter, but a thug is someone who deserves it without him having to feel guilty about it.

He could fight crime, but just be a total ***hole about it. It could for him be more about beating someone up who deserves it, than stopping criminals because it's the right thing to do.

 

[Still Wynning]

Maybe people who believe in him and support him, kinda like all the batman dudes in TDK.

His fans.

^Pretty much this

Seriously, Godzilla2014, I think you're overacting just a bit too much about this.

p.s. -- I wear a hood pretty much all the time when it's cold out, and I'm not emo.

 

[Brain Damage]

Why would Peter fight crime before Uncle Ben's death? That would make Ben's death completely unnecessary, from a character standpoint.

It appears that all evidence points to this being the case.
Mostly the scene where Peter is having dinner with the Stacys, and Gwen says "Peter lives with his aunt and uncle" being the same scene where Captain Stacy and Peter get into a fight about Spider-Man.

I do like the different take, I'm guessing Peter will still be heroic as Spidey before Uncle Ben dies, but always with himself in mind - he'll use it to make himself feel better and deal with his insecurities, but after Ben dies, all of that will change.

That's how I'm guessing it'll go down but it's pure speculation.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Here's what I posted in another Thread, when we had that discussion.



He could fight crime, but just be a total ***hole about it. It could for him be more about beating someone up who deserves it, than stopping criminals because it's the right thing to do.

To me, a big part of Spider-Man as a character is that he doesn't immediately fight crime with his powers. It made him much more relatable as a character. Most of us would try to use such powers to gain fame and fortune, at least at first, not risk our lives fighting crime.

 

[Nathan]

I really think that might be the case. He gets bullied in school, and as Spider-Man, he bullies criminals. Or maybe there's simply a line missing. When Gwen says "He lives with his Uncle and Aunt." he replies. "Just... my Aunt."

 

[Nathan]

To me, a big part of Spider-Man as a character is that he doesn't immediately fight crime with his powers. It made him much more relatable as a character. Most of us would try to use such powers to gain fame and fortune, at least at first, not risk our lives fighting crime.

All that amounts to are a few rounds of wrestling matches, until he eventually gets screwed over. We've already seen this in the Raimi Movie. And there's not much risk taking, when he takes on random, single thugs. He's Spider-Man. He could fight a dozen men without getting a scratch. Fighting random goons would be like beating up little kids.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

"Who are you calling an emo?"

 

[Jick]

Here's what I posted in another Thread, when we had that discussion.



He could fight crime, but just be a total ***hole about it. It could for him be more about beating someone up who deserves it, than stopping criminals because it's the right thing to do.

It appears that all evidence points to this being the case.
Mostly the scene where Peter is having dinner with the Stacys, and Gwen says "Peter lives with his aunt and uncle" being the same scene where Captain Stacy and Peter get into a fight about Spider-Man.

I do like the different take, I'm guessing Peter will still be heroic as Spidey before Uncle Ben dies, but always with himself in mind - he'll use it to make himself feel better and more insecure, but after Ben dies, all of that will change.

That's how I'm guessing it'll go down but it's pure speculation.

I totally buy that. I think that's how it will go, actually.
Since this is a different take, I wouldn't mind.

Leaning his frustration on people he thinks that deserve it. It's something I can relate.

 

[mayo23]

If that is the direction it goes, he probably won't wear the actual Spider-man outfit until after Uncle Ben's death. He's probably doing vigilante work in his make shift costume during that time. Of course, in the teaser, we see him sowing his costume with a shot of the wanted poster of ben's murderer.

 

[Anno_Domini]

That's emo.

Peter in a hoodie in the reboot is being an outcast, and that's FAR from emo.

 

[Godzilla2014]

All that amounts to are a few rounds of wrestling matches, until he eventually gets screwed over. We've already seen this in the Raimi Movie. And there's not much risk taking, when he takes on random, single thugs. He's Spider-Man. He could fight a dozen men without getting a scratch. Fighting random goons would be like beating up little kids.

If that's too much like the Raimi films, then don't retell the origin story.
And there's always an element of risk when fighting crime. All it might take is the faliure to dodge a single bullet or knife, and you could be in mortal danger.

 

[VenomSpawn]

I certainly didn't do it.

Well I guess that throws that theory out the window.

 

[Nathan]

If that's too much like the Raimi films, then don't retell the origin story.
And there's always an element of risk when fighting crime. All it might take is the faliure to dodge a single bullet or knife, and you could be in mortal danger.

And that risk is minimal when you've got enhanced strength, reflexes and webbing that no normal man can break through. And again, it wouldn't be about stopping crime because he thinks it's the right thing to do, it would be a way to vent his frustration and test his abilities.

 

[Brain Damage]

Well I guess that throws that theory out the window.

t:

But in all seriousness, I'm more leaning with you on who makes the graffiti.
Mostly because of the look on Peter's face when he sees it.

 

[KrypJonian]

This is my first time in this thread so I'm not sure if this has been done to death... But the lack of "belt" going around his waist is driving me nuts...

I reserved judgement til I saw footage of the suit in action, and it just looks wrong to me. The blue isn't broken up enough and it looks more like a gymnast suit or a wetsuit than a superhero costume... The other changes don't be me so much but that one bothers me.

 

[SpideyFan866]

I agree with Brain Damage. I think Peter will start out intially just fighting thugs as a way to let out his frustrations and not really to fight crime (like the tube car scene he did it for the hell of it). All of this will of course be because of his newly found strength, etc.

This will start to pour over into his high school life with him beating up flash (leading to the scene where Ben talks to him about responsibilty).

Peter's thought process will intially be that it's okay/excuseable to beat up these people just because you can because "they deserve it".

After Ben dies, Peter will realize the error of his ways and how "with great power must come great responsibilty" and he'll then begin to fight crime because its the right thing to do.

 

[KrypJonian]

I agree with Brain Damage. I think Peter will start out intially just fighting thugs as a way to let out his frustrations and not really to fight crime (like the tube car scene he did it for the hell of it). All of this will of course be because of his newly found strength, etc.

This will start to pour over into his high school life with him beating up flash (leading to the scene where Ben talks to him about responsibilty).

Peter's thought process will intially be that it's okay/excuseable to beat up these people just because you can because "they deserve it".

After Ben dies, Peter will realize the error of his ways and how "with great power must come great responsibilty" and he'll then begin to fight crime because its the right thing to do.

Yeah, let's spend way too much time getting to a point that has to happen, but let's spend time doing it different for difference' sake...

 

[Kirmit]

This is my first time in this thread so I'm not sure if this has been done to death... But the lack of "belt" going around his waist is driving me nuts...

I reserved judgement til I saw footage of the suit in action, and it just looks wrong to me. The blue isn't broken up enough and it looks more like a gymnast suit or a wetsuit than a superhero costume... The other changes don't be me so much but that one bothers me.

Agreed, I too reserved judgement until I saw it on screen and still don't like it. I like most of the changes except that and the eyes, I just prefer the big white eyes or even yellow, I don't like them mirrored though.

 

[GuestStar2004]

im suprised by how much nitpicking there is on the suit, i mean it helps seperate it from the last 3 films because if it looked the same then what would be the point of starting over

i mean the amount of different or if you like weird costumes i seen tbh the movie one doesnt really bother me :/

 

[SpideyFan866]

I hate that so many people are saying they hate the suit because honestly, had they stayed with the classic design, those same people would probably say its too similar or criticize it for not trying to be different.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I wouldn't criticize it, I'd love it, even more when I was a hater of the new suit

 

[SpideyFan866]

I wouldn't criticize it, I'd love it, even more when I was a hater of the new suit

Agreed. From the time we saw the first picture of it, I've been skeptical of the suit which is why I wanted to see footage of it from the movie so bad.

It looks good on film so I'm happy. I'd even go as far as to say I love it. I still however want and think they'll evolve the suit into the classic one by the next film.

The current costume is okay for a high school student but its a bit immature for an older Peter Parker/Spider-Man

 

[webhead731]

That's emo.

Peter in a hoodie in the reboot is being an outcast, and that's FAR from emo.

Hate to burst your bubble, but dancing to jazz music and saying things like "keep it open there, pops" and "thanks hot legs" is a lot less emo than wearing your hoodie in class and being all hunched over while writing or drawing, walking through the streets all angsty, and his clothes style is slightly what you would call more "emo" than an Italian suit or some popped collar. He may have had emo-ish hair in 3 but that was it. At least it wasn't extreme and colored funky or over half of his face.

I'm not saying new Peter is emo, but he does come off as a punk.

 

[Jick]

He looked emo in SM3...just didn't act like one.

 

[Ken-Kaniff]

I like the new suit! The old one was cool at it's time, but the new one looks cool too and somewhat "up-to-date" and its grown on me! And I agree with some people in here that if they would have kept a similar design to the old suit, some of us would've disagree, well, because it would have looked THE SAME!

Hate to burst your bubble, but dancing to jazz music and saying things like "keep it open there, pops" and "thanks hot legs" is a lot less emo than wearing your hoodie in class and being all hunched over while writing or drawing, walking through the streets all angsty, and his clothes style is slightly what you would call more "emo" than an Italian suit or some popped collar. He may have had emo-ish hair in 3 but that was it. At least it wasn't extreme and colored funky or over half of his face.

I'm not saying new Peter is emo, but he does come off as a punk.

What I don't get is why did he even had that emo haircut to begin with since he clearly wasn't acting emo, just silly. They were trying too hard to show us his behaviour changes by changing his look. Imo he should've been more agressive and looking normal. No need for black makeup and emo hair and who knows what! But he wasn't even acting agressive, he was simply acting like a silly punk.

The less things I remember from that movie, the better, but you guys keep bringing it up!

He looked emo in SM3...just didn't act like one.

EGGzactly!