The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man: Box Office Thread

[chaseter]

I'm tired of chaseter's repeating posts that lack any point other than claiming others naive for expressing their opinions and supporting them by points rather than claims.

Anything is possible. That doesn't mean it's probable.

I am the one that keeps repeating myself in here? Lets all board the roflcopter:

I'll be first to predict that, with strong promotion and gradual understand of general audience that this is a re-boot with a completely new direction as well as the fact that it's 3D and the major competitor is released only two weeks later, The Amazing Spider-man will be able to make over $300m and, to be approximate, reach $340-360m, between the numbers of Spider-man 3 and Spider-man 2.

I guess 300m is almost a safe bet, if you ask me. However, despite the initial positive reaction, many complain the film using origin all over again, even though, imo, it does make sense. I myself wasn't sure about it, but now, after getting to know more, I have to admit it's not here without purpose. So, for TAS grossing over $300m: fan base, agressive promotion, credible cast & crew, 3D, release date (which separates the film from major competitors for two weeks). Against: the fact it's re-launch, doubtful prominence as of these days, possibly declining interest of GA, and, most importantly, competition (especially TDKR). As a result, either TAS is a new Indiana Jones 4, hopefully, or another SR... Time will tell. One question remains - the budget. It's a critical factor, as, thus, it's more probable to understand what Sony is expecting from its performance. I hope it doesn't exceed $200m.

Check the opening weekend of Spider-man 3 and then look at the further history. It didn't have good legs and wasn't able to gather good enough WOM to sustain against Pirates 3 and Shrek 3. TAS has only one main competitor and it's still a matter of time what feedback will it receive from the audience. I do believe it will do a good job at appealing to modern youth with Garfield's charisma and story's focus on the hero of today.

TF sequels managed both to make over $200m in 2 weeks and reach $300m in 3. There's nothing really impossible in at least grossing way over $200m by the time TDKR is released, especially considering the fact that WB aren't doing the 3D format again (which was the actual reason why TDK succeeded to gross so much). Check Ice Age's previous films, their domestic numbers are low and the reason another is made is for the sake of the performance overseas, where these films usually make the most of its fortune. If Pirates 4 with all its negative buzz manage to cross $200m, TAS, if response is positive, will make such amount before the second weekend.

Your forecast does seem quite biased. I do understand that you aren't diffing the new direction, but it doesn't mean same is with any other viewer. Spider-man is Spider-man. It may not make TDK's numbers, but I deeply doubt it won't reach $300m, as you're claiming, just because it's a re-launch, which has become a common thing these days

Chaseter, I have to admit you do make me laugh some of the time. Your statement "You're all naive! This Spider-man WON'T match previous films" alone leave me with a smile. You seem like you're the guru of box office and, yet, I believe the actual experts in box office would never claim that others are wrond and they're right for the sake of solidarity. Additionally, how can you say that it's usually only two movies passing $300m per year, if 2007 had four of them, 2008 - three, 2009 - three, and 2010 - four

To remind you, I started that thread in order to let me people express their opinion and talk about predictions. I really don't regard those that take the advantage, though.

My opinion: TAS will make over $300m domestically and hopefully $800m worldwide. Period.

I am not blindly believing it will be over $350m. I am rationally explaining the reason behind my prediction of the film making over $300m, which is quite possible. I am not sure about Harry Potter, but TF3, which disappointed with its opening, is dying because of the horrible WOM (which also happened to many other films like Wolverine, Iron Man 2 and Spider-man 3) and people being tired of watching same crap on screen third time, just like I'm tired of chaseter's repeating posts that lack any point other than claiming others naive for expressing their opinions and supporting them by points rather than claims.]

 

[Billy the Poet]

This is why people have their doubts about another Spidey origin story though.

True, can't disagree. The last time we saw the origin was 10 years ago and it was quite brief to fit in just one act. This time it's going to be expanded to the entire film to depict the actual challenges one can face on his way to become the actual hero, not just a man in spandex with superpowers.

However, I haven't watched the film yet, just like anybody else here. Thus, I can't speak for its content. So far, we only know that the motifs, personality and the overall arc of Peter will be more explored in this one, which does come in contrast with Raimi's film. Spider-man'02 was an amazing film for its time. But there were certainly things for improvement and one of the major purposes of this film is also to appeal to the society of the contemporary world. Raimi's films, even though taking place in our time, depicted characters and events as if they came to life right from pages of comics. I wasn't watching a movie, I was watching comics on screen. TAS is more concerned about Peter's journey and his role in our society, which I really dig.

Besides, how else can you explain the reason he has web shooters and Gwen is his first love, aside from many other changes? I don't want it to be ala Batman Forever, in which they suddenly changed cast and tone, even though it was still a sequel. Neither I want it to be like TIH, which tried to put the whole origin in a series of brief shots during the titles. I want the film to have beginning, middle and end.

Think of it as B89 and BB. Burton's films, similar to Raimi's, were more about superhero that the actual protagonist, thus it had everything in the same manner, as if it was comics on screen. BB took a different turn, having a much more complex storytelling, elaborate look at the protagonist and very differnet direction, putting the character right in our world. Similarly, with Raimi's films we are in the comics universe of Spider-man, while in Webb's Spider-man is in our world.

 

[Billy the Poet]

Anything is possible. That doesn't mean it's probable.

I am the one that keeps repeating myself in here? Lets all board the roflcopter:

You do realize you're acting very childish here?

 

[chaseter]

Sorry for proving you wrong. I apologize if that hurt you. We can move on now.

 

[Billy the Poet]

Sorry for proving you wrong. I apologize if that hurt you. We can move on now.

Umm, you didn't prove anything to me

If you go back and read your posts again, you'll see that all you do is calling others naive and crazy.

My posts at least have clear reasons for my predictions. Yours are only "You think of over $300m? You must be naive! You think of over $400m? You must be naive! No way! It's won't match Spider-man 1-2". Lol!

 

[chaseter]

You do realize you're acting very childish here?

If all of my explanations aren't clear or reasonable to you then well..................................................................................................................................................................................................

 

[spider-neil]

chaseter, only the general audience can prove us right or wrong.
I think with regards to box office might this could go either way. spidey keeps surprising me.
spidey made 400m domestic when it first got released which shocked me.
spidey2 made over 300m domestic even for it didn't have it's may slot which shocked me.
spidey 3 made more overseas than TDK, which shocked me.

will spidey shock me again?

 

[hatebox]

chaseter, only the general audience can prove us right or wrong.
I think with regards to box office might this could go either way. spidey keeps surprising me.
spidey made 400m domestic when it first got released which shocked me.
spidey2 made over 300m domestic even for it didn't have it's may slot which shocked me.
spidey 3 made more overseas than TDK, which shocked me.

will spidey shock me again?

The second and third ones aren't shocking at all though...

 

[chaseter]

Yeah those aren't really shocking. TDK didn't do well overseas because well China banned the movie is one thing. Spider-Man 2 still made a ton of money because a) it was a good movie and b) it's predecessor made over $400 million domestic. I would have been shocked had it not made close to $400...which it did at $374. The only real surprise was that Spider-Man 1 made over $400 million domestic. That is crazy.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Batman has never been a big draw overseas. None of the films made a huge amount. The jump from Batman Begins to The Dark Knight was pretty impressive.

 

[ALP]

Yeah, I noticed that too. Batman must not be that big outside of America. In the UK, Mama Mia made more than TDK. If Batman were just as popular overseas, TDK would have cracked a billion in no time but it ended up being a struggle.

 

[psylockolussus]

225-250 domestic if it is a really good movie. It won't pass 250.

I agree!

Not really interested on this Spidy reboot.

 

[spider-neil]

I agree!

Not really interested on this Spidy reboot.

that maybe so but you like and what the general audience like may be two different things entirely.

 

[Billy the Poet]

^^^

He's just pissed after what happened to X:FC.

The movie was really well-made and I actually enjoyed it, but the fact is fact: it failed in box office.

 

[hatebox]

that maybe so but you like and what the general audience like may be two different things entirely.

If the casual audience reaction to this trailer is anything to by the're not exactly enthralled by the idea of a reboot too. But we'll see what the next trailer brings.

 

[spider-neil]

If the casual audience reaction to this trailer is anything to by the're not exactly enthralled by the idea of a reboot too. But we'll see what the next trailer brings.

casual reation? who are casual fans on this forum? or CBM? or aint it cool news? PotC 3 and TF3 was flamed on this board and went on to be massive hits, this board is no indicator of the GA opinion one way or the way.

 

[©KAW]

PotC 3 and TF3 was flamed on this board and went on to be massive hits, this board is no indicator of the GA opinion one way or the way.

This is why I'm horrible at guessing what a movie will make at the box office. Michael Bay is one the most hated directors on the planet if you listen to Non-Fans/Fanboys alike of Transformers. They hate all of the Transformer movies to no end. Yet, this guy releases TF3 to massive success.

 

[hatebox]

casual reation? who are casual fans on this forum? or CBM? or aint it cool news? PotC 3 and TF3 was flamed on this board and went on to be massive hits, this board is no indicator of the GA opinion one way or the way.

As I've said in the other thread, not this site, but other film sites that have no particular affiliation to comic book movies.

 

[Billy the Poet]

As I've said in the other thread, not this site, but other film sites that have no particular affiliation to comic book movies.

I see your point. But I assume he's talking about networks, such as Twitter and Facebook, as those don't have a particular common interest other than communication. Film sites still have film fans, just like comic book fans, video games fans, etc.

 

[spider-neil]

also some poster pluck figures from the sky and post them as fact. I kept hearing Sm3 flopped on dvd/blu ray so took the poster at their word, eventually I did some digging to satify my curiousity and it turns out SM3 was in the top 3 dvd/blu ray sales of the year.

 

[dark_b]

its important to remember other movies around Spidey in 2012.

 

[Billy the Poet]

Except TDKR, which comes out two weeks after TAS, no other competitors are around. Ice Age has never been a domestic hit, although it may represent real competition in overseas markets.

 

[hatebox]

Except TDKR, which comes out two weeks after TAS, no other competitors are around.

That's quite a big deal though, because it means (as things stand) TAS has 2 weeks to make the vast majority of its money domestically.

 

[Billy the Poet]

That's quite a big deal though, because it means (as things stand) TAS has 2 weeks to make the vast majority of its money domestically.

Exactly. Besides, The first two weeks would be critical for TAS anyway, even without TDKR. Movies usually gross the most in the first two weeks and then everything depends on WOM. What TAS has to do in order to prove its sustainability is to make more than $200m by the second weekend and reach $300m in the third week. Otherwise, it's fate will be already foreseen.

 

[chaseter]

^^^

He's just pissed after what happened to X:FC.

The movie was really well-made and I actually enjoyed it, but the fact is fact: it failed in box office.

$350 million worldwide after two awful movies is failing at the box office News to me.