The Batman General News & Discussion Thread

[Eddie Dean]

Clooney has a massive female following from ER

 

[Invader Joker]

Clooney has a massive female following from ER

Not nearly as big as Pattinson's. Twilight was just gigantic.
Though Bale did have his fair share of fangirls.

 

[TheSmoothKnight]

I agree with Reeves, The Dark Knight was the Joker movie more so than it was a Batman movie and I love The Dark Knight but I can see why folks would like Batman Begins more.

 

[thebatfan5194]

Already been asked a bunch of time if you scroll up a few pages.

But for now, no, if it's getting hot in London, maybe, if it's the end of the world, yes.

Imagine if it’s the end of the world and we never actually get to see this movie lmao

 

[Eddie Dean]

Not nearly as big as Pattinson's. Twilight was just gigantic.
Though Bale did have his fair share of fangirls.

You're 12. You weren't even alive back then.

 

[Invader Joker]

You're 12. You weren't even alive back then.

18. And I may not have been alive back then, but I very much doubt a TV show in the 90s had the same level of popularity as an international phenomenon like Twilight right at the beginning of the Internet age. Maybe in the US, but certainly not globally.

 

[thangaran]

What gadgets do you think will be The most realistic to incorporate? It seems the Gauntlet arrows are the batarangs essentially. Probably bat-grappling hook? Smoke bombs? What about sonar grenades? Like loud burst sounds that brings thugs down to their knees before he comes crashing in for taking them out. One thing I’ve not seen him use yet that would be cool are pellets that create slippery slick like surface on the ground that trips villains up; just enough time for Batman to get away or get an advantage in a fight

 

[Eddie Dean]

18. And I may not have been alive back then, but I very much doubt a TV show in the 90s had the same level of popularity as an international phenomenon like Twilight right at the beginning of the Internet age. Maybe in the US, but certainly not globally.

It did.

 

[flickchick85]

Clooney was “Sexiest Man Alive” TWICE. He has always had a massive female following, since he first debuted on E.R. (Which was a phenom, btw, in a way TV shows today can rarely dream of).

Rob’s Twilight moment was cool and all, and he’s a handsome dude that certainly has fangirls, but let’s not go crazy.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I'm 27 and even I remember Clooney being talked about and swooned over on tv. Heck, people still love him.

 

[godisawesome]

One thing I’ve noticed about this Batman compared to others: Pattinson, way more than any actor in the role, has a pretty strong female fan base that go nuts over that guy. He’s still a heartthrob to them. I don’t know if that makes a difference but it’s going to be interesting.

Clooney has a massive female following from ER

Not nearly as big as Pattinson's. Twilight was just gigantic.
Though Bale did have his fair share of fangirls.

Casting a heart throb as the lead male doesn’t guarantee the female demographic will appear; you still need to do a good job writing the film to maximize their talent.

Adam Driver is clearly at least a minor heartthrob right now, yet Rise of Skywalker saw a very significant drop in female audience members from TFA even though that demographic was probably the reason they pursued the “Reylo” romance at the end.

In contrast, Tom Holland basically became a greater heartthrob because of Spider-Man, and they exploited the crap out of that in the last two Avengers movies.

They use Pattinson to his fullest extent and create an awesome Batman, and he’ll soar for all demographics, and the Twilight stigma will probably vanish from him.

 

[shauner111]

Clooney was “Sexiest Man Alive” TWICE. He has always had a massive female following, since he first debuted on E.R. (Which was a phenom, btw, in a way TV shows today can rarely dream of).

Rob’s Twilight moment was cool and all, and he’s a handsome dude that certainly has fangirls, but let’s not go crazy.

One of those “awards” was 10 years after Batman & Robin. ER was just starting. And “twilight moment” lasted a while. Rob was more of the teenage heartthrob, while Clooney was getting all the milf attention. But for real, Clooney was cast based on the new movie star/tv star vibe that he had at the time. It was a stunt and it held zero water. Never felt like his sex appeal translated to the big screen, especially with Batman.

It’s been almost a decade since Twilight, film bros find him dope, women think he’s hot (everywhere I turn on twitter, I see a Pattinson fanpage frantically posting his modeling pics). Most of the cast are young. I get the vibe this movie will attract a lot of different thirsty f’ers lol. But unlike he Shumacher movies, this isn’t some embarrassing flick to go see as an adult. It’s like there’s a Nolan vibe where we all genuinely want to see how the movie plays out, but it could appeal to younger ppl at the same time.

 

[flickchick85]

One of those “awards” was 10 years after Batman & Robin. ER was just starting. And “twilight moment” lasted a while. Rob was more of the teenage heartthrob, while Clooney was getting all the milf attention. But for real, Clooney was cast based on the new movie star/tv star vibe that he had at the time. It was a stunt and it held zero water. Never felt like his sex appeal translated to the big screen, especially with Batman.

It’s been almost a decade since Twilight, film bros find him dope, women think he’s hot (everywhere I turn on twitter, I see a Pattinson fanpage frantically posting his modeling pics). Most of the cast are young. I get the vibe this movie will attract a lot of different thirsty f’ers lol. But unlike he Shumacher movies, this isn’t some embarrassing flick to go see as an adult. It’s like there’s a Nolan vibe where we all genuinely want to see how the movie plays out, but it could appeal to younger ppl at the same time.

E.R. Was the most-watched show in North America for a couple years by the time B&R hit, pulling over 40 million viewers in the US alone, which was almost entirely thanks to Clooney. I vividly remember headlines along the lines of “Sexiest Batman yet!” There’s no denying he was a mega-heartthrob back then. That’s WHY he was on a sudden movie star track. Rob has taken a different path that has certainly made him a fave with different crowds, but let’s not pretend he’s the first Batman who had the popular heartthrob factor going for him, because that just ain’t true at all.

 

[Schlosser85]

We're seriously arguing about whether or not George Clooney had a massive female fan following? lol.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Clooney went through italian women the way a fatman goes through pasta.

Also, that MJ Rodriguez will most likely be playing a background type character or whatever. This is smart move by his agents tho, it adds a bit of notice to his name by leaking that he is in this movie. Kinda like that guy who a lot of folks thought was playing Hal Jordan, based on a brown bomber jacket that he was wearing and him/his agents playing coy, milking the hell out of that part in BvS.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Rob being a heartthrob won't affect BO much (or even at all). Main audience of Batman are CBM fans, Batman fans and people who like to watch big budget movies. It's obviously not 50 Shades or Twilight. Which are rather specific content-wise.

 

[Maze]

Yup Clowney was elected sexiest man alive in 1997, and ER, at his peak during his era had 30 millions viewers average by episode

 

[Maze]

E.R. Was the most-watched show in North America for a couple years by the time B&R hit, pulling over 40 million viewers in the US alone, which was almost entirely thanks to Clooney. I vividly remember headlines along the lines of “Sexiest Batman yet!” There’s no denying he was a mega-heartthrob back then. That’s WHY he was on a sudden movie star track. Rob has taken a different path that has certainly made him a fave with different crowds, but let’s not pretend he’s the first Batman who had the popular heartthrob factor going for him, because that just ain’t true at all.

“ER” routinely attracted more than 30 million viewers, and as many as 47.8 million tuned in during the series’ peak in 1998

 

[antsman41]

More people watched the FRIENDS finale live (52.5 Million “people”) than...

...who went to Twilight’s last film’s North American opening night, let alone opening weekend (141.1 Million Dollars / $7.90 = 17.8 Million “people”).

So, yes ‘90s tv is easily more important cultural wise than most film franchises even today.

 

[Invader Joker]

One of those “awards” was 10 years after Batman & Robin. ER was just starting. And “twilight moment” lasted a while. Rob was more of the teenage heartthrob, while Clooney was getting all the milf attention. But for real, Clooney was cast based on the new movie star/tv star vibe that he had at the time. It was a stunt and it held zero water. Never felt like his sex appeal translated to the big screen, especially with Batman.

I'm not sure that's true. I've seen a lot of women in their 40-70s in those Pattinson fansites.

 

[Invader Joker]

It did.

Globally?
That's my main point: Was ER really THAT big globally? As big as Twilight?

 

[shauner111]

Clooney Batman never happened, so I’m right about Pattinson.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Globally?
That's my main point: Was ER really THAT big globally? As big as Twilight?

Yup!

Just because you weren’t alive doesn’t mean things didn’t happen!

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Globally?
That's my main point: Was ER really THAT big globally? As big as Twilight?

Dude, ER was colossal. Way, way bigger than Twilight with a far broader audience.

 

[Invader Joker]

I still have my doubts lol But regardless, while both Pattinson and Clooney have been named "sexiest man alive" twice and yeah, they both had their own strong female following, I'd still say that there is a possibility that this movie could actually benefit from Pattinson's hearthtrob status because this movie, unlike Batman and Robin, seems like it will not be embarrassing for adults to watch.

I have no doubts that there were some female audience members that went to watch Batman and Robin because of Clooney... but the movie itself was so ridiculously childish and Clooney's performance so terrible I doubt there were many that fangirled hard over his participation in that movie, whereas I can see a scenario in which Rob's Bruce Wayne/Batman could be an attractive character to female audience members. Heck, from just the camera test alone I've seen a loooot of comments and tweets of girls and women saying they think Rob looks really hot on the Batman suit and on the cowl.

A good, mature Batman movie with Clooney as a lead giving a performance that was actually good could have benefitted from his hearthrob status in the late 90s, but since Batman and Robin was pretty much aimed at toddlers you couldn't really expect teenage girls and women to swoon over that version of Bruce Wayne in a massive way, regardless of how good looking Clooney was.