The Batman General News & Discussion Thread

[Travesty]

I absolutely love where this discussion is going.

 

[Boom]

Well, he's a forensic and detective genius but even then that doesn't mean he has the scent of a dog but I get your point.

I just think it'd be a cool reference; my idea of Ace would literally be just have Batman use him in one or two scenes in a crime investigation that'd essentially be glorified easter egg. Nothing more, nothing less. If I had to decide between giving his cowl the scent of a dog or just literally have a grounded version of Ace there I'd go with Ace because I think it'd be a cool small reference.

Dogs are typically used to spot-check for drugs and explosives. Still not seeing the need for Batman to have one when he is investigating a crime scene after a crime had already taken place.

Leave the K9s to the police.

 

[Eddie Dean]

I would like to see Ace in Wayne Manor but I would be mad at Batman if he put Ace in danger.

 

[Boom]

I would like to see Ace in Wayne Manor but I would be mad at Batman if he put Ace in danger.

He good boi.

 

[Invader Joker]

Dogs are typically used to spot-check for drugs and explosives.

There you go. If he ever needs to spot check drugs or explosives I'd be happy to see Ace lol. Just something he ocassionally uses when the occasion calls for it.

 

[Boom]

There you go. If he ever needs to spot check drugs or explosives I'd be happy to see Ace lol. Just something he ocassionally uses when the occasion calls for it.

Is Batman spot-checking for explosives at an NFL game?

Spot-checking is typically a preemptive measure, to ensure that a crime is stopped before it is committed. It's done at airports to make sure criminals aren't attempting to smuggle drugs into the country, and it's done at events with large crowds of people to ensure safety.

It's simple. Police use dogs. Whatever evidence is gathered by the police dogs, Gordon feeds it to Batman during one of their nightly chats.

 

[Invader Joker]

Is Batman spot-checking for explosives at an NFL game?

Spot-checking takes place before a crime is committed. It's done at airports to make sure criminals aren't attempting to smuggle drugs into the country, and it's done at events that involve large crowds of people.

It's simple. Police use dogs. Whatever evidence is gathered by the police dogs, Gordon feeds it to Batman during one of their nightly chats.

I mean, it's not hard to imagine a context in which Batman would have to track down an explosive or a certain type of drug in a dark room, dogs are also used for those types of situations or so I've seen on Live PD lol. That's why I'm specifically saying he should use them only if the ocassion calls for it.

 

[BatsAndNights]

To be fair, let's also be real. Bruce Wayne is the same man who's adopted at least three kids just because they were in a pretty ****ty life situation. In the current canon, I believe Ace was used by the Joker as one of his "jokes", where he basically forced like three dogs to eat and kill each other. Bruce just adopting a dog for the same reasons why he adopted Dick, Jason or Tim would hardly be the biggest stretch

 

[I Am The Knight]

That's why I said don't bring the dog to fight scenes or anything like that; just crime scenes investigations where it's just him and maybe Comissioner Gordon.

And idk, I could still see an urban legend component to it... this mysterious bat creature that beats criminals and has a demonic blood hungry pet by his side; I'm sure there are creepypastas like that in real life lol. But even then I wouldn't put him on fight scenes or any scene that involves Batman encountering criminals, just scenes where he's doing his detective stuff. So criminals aren't ever going to see Ace anyway or if they do they won't think Batman has anything to do with him.

 

[Boom]

To be fair, let's also be real. Bruce Wayne is the same man who's adopted at least three kids just because they were in a pretty ****ty life situation. In the current canon, I believe Ace was used by the Joker as one of his "jokes", where he basically forced like three dogs to eat and kill each other. Bruce just adopting a dog for the same reasons why he adopted Dick, Jason or Tim would hardly be the biggest stretch

And I'm totally fine with that. Just as long as Ace stays at home.

 

[Invader Joker]

Some real life urban legends are equally or more stupid, trust me lol. It's hardly the biggest stretch.

 

[Schlosser85]

 

[Invader Joker]

Well, I think the blue and oval debates are over for Invader.

"Bro, blue is totally not realistic and serious, but what about Shark Repellent Bat-Spray? I mean, Sharks are realistically dangerous, and Batman needs some kind of spray to get rid of them. Ace could even fetch him some......but that damn blue is so unrealistic".

I never said the blue wasn't realistic, I concede that it's more realistic for hiding in the dark. But for some reason, Batman looks better aesthetically in black. And I defended the oval.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I’d be fine with Ace, but keep him in the cave.

Blue suit is fine, but black is better!

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Save Ace for a Batman Beyond movie.

 

[Kane52630]

Batman should have a white suit.

 

[Schlosser85]

And Ace should be a white German Shepherd.

 

[shauner111]

I’m changing the subject because this Ace talk is the worst.

70’s era would be amazing. They can’t do 90’s without connecting it to Joker (which is still my unrealistic hope). I feel like it’s easier making a Batman world set in the 20th century rather than a 2020’s Batman story where it’s more difficult for him to hide from current technology. The amount of cameras, everything is in HD and easy to access. Maybe that’s the point, to show how futuristic Batman’s tech is. I’m down for it. But there’s something creepy in the idea of a Batman roaming around at night during a period where nobody knows what the F is happening.

You can strip Gotham down while designing the heroes/villains’ suits like the comics. And dive deeper into their psyche & skillsets, without making it too action/plot-based.

 

[WatchProtect]

I’m changing the subject because this Ace talk is the worst.

70’s era would be amazing. They can’t do 90’s without connecting it to Joker (which is still my unrealistic hope). I feel like it’s easier making a Batman world set in the 20th century rather than a 2020’s Batman story where it’s more difficult for him to hide from current technology. The amount of cameras, everything is in HD and easy to access. Maybe that’s the point, to show how futuristic Batman’s tech is. I’m down for it. But there’s something creepy in the idea of a Batman roaming around at night during a period where nobody knows what the F is happening.

You can strip Gotham down while designing the heroes/villains’ suits like the comics. And dive deeper into their psyche & skillsets, without making it too action/plot-based.

Why couldn't they do 90's without connecting it to Joker? It's not against the rules or anything. The films are not connected and the audience would see that

 

[Schlosser85]

I’m changing the subject because this Ace talk is the worst.

70’s era would be amazing. They can’t do 90’s without connecting it to Joker (which is still my unrealistic hope). I feel like it’s easier making a Batman world set in the 20th century rather than a 2020’s Batman story where it’s more difficult for him to hide from current technology. The amount of cameras, everything is in HD and easy to access. Maybe that’s the point, to show how futuristic Batman’s tech is. I’m down for it. But there’s something creepy in the idea of a Batman roaming around at night during a period where nobody knows what the F is happening.

You can strip Gotham down while designing the heroes/villains’ suits like the comics. And dive deeper into their psyche & skillsets, without making it too action/plot-based.

Joker was set in the ‘80s and why can’t they do any given time period without connecting it to Joker?

 

[BatsAndNights]

Honestly I'd love to see more of TDK's surveillance subtext brought into it when it comes to the technology. Maybe explore that as a plot point. If it's justified, if Batman should even have that much power at his disposal. A modern day Batman detective story could not be more relevant than ever, I'd say.

 

[Travesty]

I'm gonna laugh when we all find out Matt Reeves is setting the movie in the 30s-40s, and we were all wrong the entire time.

 

[shauner111]

Joker was set in the ‘80s and why can’t they do any given time period without connecting it to Joker?

Yes but my point is, you can’t connect Reeves’ universe to Joker unless ‘The Batman’ Was set in the late 90’s.

If you’re going to set the films in the 90’s and not connect it to Joker...what a wasted opportunity. Instead, if there’s an announcement that it’s set in the 40’s, the 70’s, the 2020’s, whatever...then it’s easier to digest. “Oh, it wouldn’t match up anyway with Joker’s age or Bruce’s age so that makes sense”. It’s easier to accept. Joker is massive right now. A lot of fans and casual moviegoers will be interested in this Joaquin Phoenix version of Joker facing off against Batman (especially with that final scene, which cuts to Bruce Wayne standing over his dead parents while Joker laughs in Arkham). There’s a lot of repeat viewings going on at the moment. And each time they leave the theater, the first thing on their mind is that final scene. What a poor business decision, to announce The Batman is set in a decade that could make a Fleck/Wayne showdown possible...and yet A) Joker never shows up. Or B) a young, separate Joker shows up to square off against Pattinson. Meanwhile a JOKER sequel is possibly released to even more acclaim.

 

[WatchProtect]

Yes but my point is, you can’t connect Reeves’ universe to Joker unless ‘The Batman’ Was set in the late 90’s.

If you’re going to set the films in the 90’s and not connect it to Joker...what a wasted opportunity. Instead, if there’s an announcement that it’s set in the 40’s, the 70’s, the 2020’s, whatever...then it’s easier to digest. “Oh, it wouldn’t match up anyway with Joker’s age or Bruce’s age so that makes sense”. It’s easier to accept. Joker is massive right now. A lot of fans and casual moviegoers will be interested in this Joaquin Phoenix version of Joker facing off against Batman (especially with that final scene, which cuts to Bruce Wayne standing over his dead parents while Joker laughs in Arkham). There’s a lot of repeat viewings going on at the moment. And each time they leave the theater, the first thing on their mind is that final scene. What a poor business decision, to announce The Batman is set in a decade that could make a Fleck/Wayne showdown possible...and yet A) Joker never shows up. Or B) a young, separate Joker shows up to square off against Pattinson. Meanwhile a JOKER sequel is possibly released to even more acclaim.

It really wouldn't be a wasted opportunity though, Joker Is stand-alone for a reason. Because that version doesn't work against Batman. Joker will have fans no matter who plays him. It makes no sense to force Joaqer to face Battinson

 

[Schlosser85]

Reeves shouldn't be forced to accomodate an entirely unconnected movie if it doesn't match up with his own vision.

Also both Todd Phillips and Joaquin Phoenix have made it sound like they'd be a lot more interested in a similarly stand-alone sequel of Arthur/Joker just doing his thing than sticking him in a conventional superhero movie where he fights Batman.