The Big Five

[red-five]

Who in your opinion are currently the 5 most powerful characters

my list goes like this

1.Peter
2.Sylar
3.Ted
4.Hiro(Future)
5.Hiro(present)

 

[batnkevlar]

Dude, Future Hiro is more powerful than Sylar... what could Sylar do against a man who could stop time? Peter would copy the ability, but Sylar wouldn't...

 

[Super_Child]

1) Future Hiro
2) Peter
3) Sylar
4) Ted
5) Claire

 

[red-five]

Dude, Future Hiro is more powerful than Sylar... what could Sylar do against a man who could stop time? Peter would copy the ability, but Sylar wouldn't...

Hmmm
your right about sylar

but peter already has Hiros power
thats why i placed him first

 

[chuy]

1) Future Hiro
2) Peter
3) Sylar
4) Ted
5) Claire

How is claire the 5th most powerful character?

 

[Supreme Power]

Who in your opinion are currently the 5 most powerful characters

my list goes like this

1.Peter
2.Sylar
3.Ted
4.Hiro(Future)
5.Hiro(present)

I somewhat agree, except I would have Future Hiro first, and Nathan fifth.
So far

 

[Katsuro]

Top three are definaltey Peter, Hiro from the future, and Sylar. Not sure about the other two. I wanna say D.L. is somewhere up there, since he was able to knock out Jessica, and he's virtually untouchable (although he did get shot that one time).

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

As of right now:

1. Future Hiro
2. Ted
3. Peter
4. Sylar
5. D.L.

 

[ragdus]

Sylar
Peter
Ted
Jessica
Haitian

 

[GL1]

Obviously, the future versions of everyone are more powerful, so I don't count any of them, even though we have seen one (Future Hiro)

Most Powerful?

1) Isaac
Isaac controls fate... period, his paintings MUST come true, even if you try to prevent them. He's by far the most powerful.

2) Hiro
Hiro has control of the Space Time Continuum, and although what he does can be changed, he's far more versatile than anyone else could hope to be. He can make it so you were never born. Ownage.

3) Peter
Purely on the secondary effect of his power (duplicating others' powers), he is the most powerful. I would have put him above Hiro and Isaac, but the fact is, he doesn't have control the way they do. He cannot create as far reaching effects.

4) Sylar
Because of his multiplicty of powers and his killing experience, Sylar gets the nod as number four. He's the truth.

5) Ted
He has by far the most destructive ability, and in the comics he's the only one who's taken out a platoon already. And he's a little 'nothing to lose' so he's extremely dangerous.

But, if I were going by the rules some people seem to (use future characters, and 'who is the best in a fight' then my answer is: Future Peter, Future Hiro, Future Sylar, Future Jessica/Nikki, Future Ted

 

[Triadkd]

Dont let your favoritism get in the way of common sense. As of right know sylar is the most powerful charchter on the show. Future Hiro does not exist in this timeline and present hiro doesent even have any powers right now. Ted is strong but he lacks focus and control. If he started melting down all sylar would have to do is fly away. Peter like ted is strong but lacks focus. Claire shouldnt even be on the list. She may be able to heal but she is still a little girl. Sylar is the only charachter to have a firm grasp on his powers and he has no moral boundaries like the others. This is why he is the strongest right now. And as far as issac is concerned, he maybe able to paint the future, but peter showed that at the end of the day he raw power wins over paint any day.

 

[gambitfire]

Can we for sure say Issac Control Fate GL?

I mean he doesn't even now exactly what he's painting until he awakens from his trance.

and even then the paintings can be tricky and or decieving.

 

[Katsuro]

1) Isaac
Isaac controls fate... period, his paintings MUST come true, even if you try to prevent them. He's by far the most powerful.

First of all, he doesn't control fate, he just predicts it. It's not like he could just up and decide to paint him winning the lottery and it happens. Knowing the future and determining the future are two drastically different things.

Secondly, I'm pretty sure his paintings can be changed. I mean, otherwise aren't they all scrambling to stop the explosion for nothing?

 

[Eddie Brock]

1. Peter - It's blatantly obvious that Peter has the most potential of any character on this show. He just needs to be near you to use your powers, and once he has absorbed them, he can recall them on command. Anyone who doesn't put Peter at Number 1 is disillusioned.

2. Sylar - He has almost equal potential to Peter. His weakness is that he has to kill you and study your brain in order to get your powers, unlike Peter who can do it at will. The process of gaining all these powers is a long and difficult one, but if Sylar succeeds, he is easily Number 2.

3. Hiro - Hiro would be Number 1, since he can control time (easily the strongest power), but the problem is that if he was near Peter, than Peter could do it too, thus eliminating Hiro's advantage. Furthermore, if Sylar knew about his power, he could steal it and then use it for himself. Therefore, by process of elimination, Hiro is Number 3.

4. Claire - Let's face it, she's a tough chick to beat. The only way to really stop her is to permanently damage her brain, otherwise she keeps coming back. You can't kill what you can't wound.

5. Haitian - Coming up with Number 5 was tough, but I had to give it to the Haitian. It appears that he can stop only mental powers, so that gives him an edge in some situations. For other situations, if he managed to erase your memory, you would be completely defenseless. Like I said, Number 5 was a tough choice (since the other 4 seemed to jump out at me when I thought about it), but I have to say The Haitian for now.

 

[bulok]

Secondly, I'm pretty sure his paintings can be changed. I mean, otherwise aren't they all scrambling to stop the explosion for nothing?

So far, all of Isaac's paintings have come true. There has not been a single painting where the outcome had been averted, starting from his very first one (where he tried to stop a woman from getting run over by a bus) to the last few paintings. Hell even the one where Peter dies came true, altho he did come back to life.

I feel that Isaac's paintings are there more as a catalyst, like a self-fulfilling prophecy than it is as something to be prevented.

 

[Eddie Brock]

So far, all of Isaac's paintings have come true. There has not been a single painting where the outcome had been averted, starting from his very first one (where he tried to stop a woman from getting run over by a bus) to the last few paintings. Hell even the one where Peter dies came true, altho he did come back to life.

I feel that Isaac's paintings are there more as a catalyst, like a self-fulfilling prophecy than it is as something to be prevented.

still, he doesn't CONTROL what he paints
when he comes out of the trance, he's really seeing the painting for the first time
so he can't change the future, he just shows what is going to happen

 

[GL1]

Can we for sure say Issac Control Fate GL?

I mean he doesn't even now exactly what he's painting until he awakens from his trance.

and even then the paintings can be tricky and or decieving.

Well, we can't say for sure that Isaac DOESN'T control fate, that's for sure. And while he may not know what he's painting in his white-eyeball form, while they may be decieving, they do always come true... even when we take steps to change them... it suggests that fate is in Isaac's hands... no which one is control, Isaac white-eyes or fate... no one knows, but I'd be willing to be it's Isaac... just cuz that's a cooler idea if nothing else...

Either that or Isaac somehow IS fate itself... but I digress...

Well obviously, he doesn't decide what to paint, at least when he's not "high," so we don't know how that form decides what to paint, but we don't have any evidence that he's predicting... we only know that it always happens exactly as Isaac paints it.

Secondly, I'm pretty sure his paintings can be changed. I mean, otherwise aren't they all scrambling to stop the explosion for nothing?

Bingo. That's what makes this show interesting to me, that they might be running from the inevitable... perhaps killing Isaac and his control over fate is the only way to stop the bombs and make his paintings un-true... that'd be cool...

Put it this way, if Isaac just viewed the future and painted it, like Hiro would if he could paint, how come Hiro's timeline can be changed, and Isaac's can't?

 

[Abaddon]

Isaac doesn't just paint. He sees it. So yes, we do have proof that he is predicting the future and not creating it.

 

[Katsuro]

Well obviously, he doesn't decide what to paint, at least when he's not "high," so we don't know how that form decides what to paint, but we don't have any evidence that he's predicting... we only know that it always happens exactly as Isaac paints it.

Dont you remember when Peter finished Isaac's painting? It was like he saw it on the canvas, and just painted over it. That's how I took it, anyways. Isaac looks into the future, at what's destined to happen, and paints that. His paintings are simply a view into the future, and whatever he paints would have happened regardless of whether he painted it or not.

 

[bulok]

I don't think Isaac controls anything at all. I think he's more of a catalyst than anything.
I say this because of the comic "His first time". The first time Isaac's painting came true was with the woman who was hit by a bus. If he hadnt painted it and tried to warn the woman she wouldn't have been running away from him at that precise moment. Maybe she wouldn't have been so scared that she didn't notice the bus running over her.

Same thing with Peter saving the cheerleader. Sure Peter knew he had to save her but he didn't know where. He only knew where to go because of Isaac's painting.

I don't think there's any way at all to change what's in his paintings but I also don't think Isaac has any control on what he paints. He just does what he sees.

 

[GL1]

Isaac doesn't just paint the future... because the future can be changed and Isaac's paintings can't.

Okay, you got me, he does SEE what he's painting first... so my new theory is that once he paints something it HAS to happen, just like that... he sort of 'locks time' in a fate-like way... that's why his paintings can be self-fulfilling without the danger of causing Time Rifts, but if Hiro goes back in time to change something about himself, Time Rifts become a real danger...

Thank you for helping me refine my theory: Isaac turns the future into fate. And unless he can learn to look for alternate futures, he is no longer the #1 most powerful person on the list... 'shrug' oh well...

But it's pretty clear from the show that his paintings are NOT simply a view into the future, or else they couldnt' cause themselves... but again, I see it's likely that he doesn't "Control" so much as solidifies or catalyzes... interesting indeed.

 

[SuperT]

1. Peter: No explanation needed.

2. Sylar: Same as above.

3. Hiro: He can rewind, fast forward, and stop time. All he has to do is pause time around his enemy, and just walk up to them and kill them.

4. Niki/Jessica: She can freakin RIP an entire human being in half, defeat a gang of thugs all by herself, and not to mention rip and entire DOOR to a money safe off. If that's not powerful, I don't know what is.

5. Claire: Like someone said, you can't defeat something you can't kill.

If Eden was still alive she would probably come in at number three, pushing Hiro & Niki/Jessica down and bumping Claire off the list. She can make you do anything just by saying it. That's pretty powerful.

Honorable Mentions: Micah, The Haitian, Ted

Issac is no where near one of the top powerful HEROES, all he does is paint the future, and as KRING has stated, not all of his paintings are of the ABSOLUTE future but a possible one.

 

[saiyan jedi]

1. Peter: No explanation needed.

2. Sylar: Same as above.

3. Hiro: He can rewind, fast forward, and stop time. All he has to do is pause time around his enemy, and just walk up to them and kill them.

4. Niki/Jessica: She can freakin RIP an entire human being in half, defeat a gang of thugs all by herself, and not to mention rip and entire DOOR to a money safe off. If that's not powerful, I don't know what is.

5. Claire: Like someone said, you can't defeat something you can't kill.

If Eden was still alive she would probably come in at number three, pushing Hiro & Niki/Jessica down and bumping Claire off the list. She can make you do anything just by saying it. That's pretty powerful.

Honorable Mentions: Micah, The Haitian, Ted

Issac is no where near one of the top powerful HEROES, all he does is paint the future, and as KRING has stated, not all of his paintings are of the ABSOLUTE future but a possible one.

WTF Claire/matt/isaac are the weakest
none of them has any business on the top 5

and claire can be killed just shoot her in the face once and its all over