TDK and Inception made so much money that Nolan can have 3 bombs and they would still greenlight a movie from him. IMO after 3 bombs he would need to do a 100% studio movie. but its very hard for a director to have 3 bombs.
Returns is my favorite of the original 4. Returns, 89, Forever, B&R.
The Avengers thread are posting the Forbes article which is touting the 26 million admissions. Everyone I've seen on box office forums say that's inaccurate, it's more like 22.2 million for Avengers vs. 22 million for TDK. Higher, but not by that much.At that point, it's not about demand, it's about how many screens and showings can theaters physically fit into the weekend.
And I don't feel like continually being the party pooper so I haven't gone in there to correct them.
They would tear you to shreds right now and call you a jealous Batfan or Nolanite because of that correction.
That too.I wouldn't.
Precisely, a few Marvel fans are acting like The Avengers completely blew TDK out of the water in ticket sales and midnight numbers, yet that's not the case.
22.2m vs 22m in ticket sales
18.7m vs 18.5m in midnight gross
Those numbers are razor close, so I really am having trouble understanding Iron Stark's point here about TDKR not being able to build on TDK's crowd.
I bet some of them have touted the 26 million admissions so much that even when you point out (and give evidence) that it's actually A LOT closer, they would get into a pissy fight and refuse to give in anyway. 
I have better things to do.... It's not nearly as exciting anymore, unless TDKR does the impossible and bests Harry Potter 8, which had 3D.
TDKR's midnight take will assuredly be higher, even without 3D. More theaters have midnight showings now, way more than in 2008. And midnights are definitely geared toward the fans. If you can't say that TDK fanboys didn't get MORE fanboy-y in the 4 years after TDK, I'm pretty sure you can't say anything.
OW is something else, but the bit about the midnight showing, I'm willing to stand behind. TDKR's midnight take will assuredly be higher, even without 3D. More theaters have midnight showings now, way more than in 2008. And midnights are definitely geared toward the fans. If you can't say that TDK fanboys didn't get MORE fanboy-y in the 4 years after TDK, I'm pretty sure you can't say anything.
People who claim that TDKR can't best Avenger's MIDNIGHT take are Avenger's fanboys and don't know a thing about box office.
Yes, that appears to be the consensus. If TDKR can get a $100 million opening day, Avengers's OW is going down. $95 million on Friday including midnights is possibly the lowest it could be and still get the record.
Admissions? There isn't one. Just people on box office forums working with average ticket price charts.
Admissions? There isn't one. Just people on box office forums working with average ticket price charts.
Nobody cares except for us/them.
Yes, that appears to be the consensus. If TDKR can get a $100 million opening day, Avengers's OW is going down. $95 million on Friday including midnights is possibly the lowest it could be and still get the record.
Very tall order, one I'm not quite on the bandwagon for even as a Batman nut, but it's possible.
I love the Batman nuts on the box office forums. They're so adorable, and their fighting is much more in good fun.
Admissions? There isn't one. Just people on box office forums working with average ticket price charts.
Nobody cares except for us/them.
There's a consensus, yes.
Im going to have to see all 3 days to due my part in trying to breaking the record ... Avengers box office may have helped TDKR ..... Because us nerds have to choose a side ...Now we know what must be done ..
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(Btw this post wasn't meant to be this long and certainly not supposed to be a rant)Very true. If BB had Green Lanterned or John Cartered, we wouldn't have gotten TDK. TDKR not doing "well" in the box office would only affect Nolan, but it's arguable he's proven himself enough anyway. At least enough to earn himself a second chance.
Or maybe WB will go back to fun and lighthearted movies, maybe bring JLA back into the fray, but Nolan will have gotten his trilogy in, so who cares.
Yeah, as with many others I'm a fan of Nolan outside of Batman so I'd still be pissed if it had any impact on his future freedom. A few bombs and all that hard work goes out the window. Who wants George Lucas directing the next Batman for eg? t:
) I always research what I want to see and whether I want to support it. For films like Avengers & TDKR I will happily watch a tonne of times as I know my money is going somewhere I want it to.t
Right. And TDK actually had less screens, so there were more people per screen for it.
So what ARE we fighting about anyway, if our movies are pretty much the same level of popularity? Right. And TDK actually had less screens, so there were more people per screen for it.
~22 million seems to be the saturation point, I think that much is clear. It's not about audience demand at that level, but on the theaters.
