The Dark Knight Rises The Box Office Thread

[DoomsdayApex]

Perhaps trolling is too strong a word. He's certainly being condescending without any reason, which is not conducive to discussion.

I'll concede that the 'Batman Pajamas' comment was a bit condescending towards Excel's very enthusiastic post but I've talked to Tony Stark over at The Avenger boards, and he doesn't troll.

Posters like Shadowlord X are ones you should definitely avoid though.

 

[Tony Stark]

Oh okay, apologies then. I thought you were also referring to the YouTube stats.

Regarding the audience, you're right. It's beyond difficult to match the successes of the previous installment. No doubt. History is against TDKR but film franchises like LOTR and Harry Potter, and the popularity of Batman in America also provide a factor here. Chris Nolan's name has been growing in popularity since TDK as well (Inception proved it). Now whether or not TDKR will match TDK's successes, that still remains to be seen but the film (now that the final trailer has been released) is getting colossal attention again.

It's why I believe TDKR can match and surpass TDK, in my opinion.

It certainly can no doubt, and I think it can definitely beat the previous Potter record without having 3D boost which is something in and of itself.

Plus it will have a chance to be the 2nd franchise to have two movies in the same series at 1B or more, which POTC is the only one in that catagory. And that one doesn't even make sense because I thought both OST and AWE were horrible movies. Of all the billion dollar movies those two and TF: DOTM make no sense to me being on that list. The others are excellent movies.

 

[Micromind]

I don't expect TDKR to earn more at worldwide box office than Avengers, but if TDKR manages to earn more than TDK (which I expect it to.) I will consider it as a great success.

In case of Avengers,

* It had almost one month without any significant competition (I don't think that Dark Shadows and The Battleship provided any serious competition to Avengers.)

* It had 3D ticket boost its collections (an advantage which TDKR does not have.)

* Last year Thor and Captain America served as huge advertisements for Avengers and it was still fresh in the minds of people.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

It certainly can no doubt, and I think it can definitely beat the previous Potter record without having 3D boost which is something in and of itself.

Plus it will have a chance to be the 2nd franchise to have two movies in the same series at 1B or more, which POTC is the only one in that catagory. And that one doesn't even make sense because I thought both OST and AWE were horrible movies. Of all the billion dollar movies those two and TF: DOTM make no sense to me being on that list. The others are excellent movies.

Captain Jack Sparrow and Optimus Prime/Megatron/Bumblebee could easily be A-list celebrities. It's the only reason to explain why these films have been so successful. The movies have been **** and yet they still continue to rake in big bucks.

Transformers 4 is going to shatter box office records overseas when it's released.

 

[Micromind]

I am waiting for a crossover movie to happen - POTC meets Transformers.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

I am waiting for a crossover movie to happen - POTC meets Transformers.

God help us all if that were to ever happen.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

I liked a lot of witty banter in OST and preferred it to its two predecessors. But Transformers, I understand why the first one did well (we're all suckers) but people should have gotten a clue and stayed far away after that...but they didn't.

 

[Crimson King]

I don't expect TDKR to earn more at worldwide box office than Avengers, but if TDKR manages to earn more than TDK (which I expect it to.) I will consider it as a great success.

In case of Avengers,

* It had almost one month without any significant competition (I don't think that Dark Shadows and The Battleship provided any serious competition to Avengers.)

* It had 3D ticket boost its collections (an advantage which TDKR does not have.)

* Last year Thor and Captain America served as huge advertisements for Avengers and it was still fresh in the minds of people.

TDKR will get its boost too. IMAX tickets are more expensive. I know I'm seeing it in IMAX, and I'll pay about $8 more to see it.

If Thor was an Avengers ad, it was a poor one. I can see labeling Cap as that, though, what with the tag at the end being a trailer.

 

[Vader815]

Not really. Even TDK's international numbers weren't impressive. This won't do much better.

That's kinda my point though. They have to. Even if you sell the same amount of tickets, the high number of IMAX theaters around the world (another 300+ internationally), inflation along with raised ticket prices, this woud make quite a lot more.

Plus, overseas markets have opened up significantly since The Dark Knight in just a few years. It's one of the reasons Inception made around 500 million. Nolan's become a huge worldwide name, and I think that'll show here.

-Vader

 

[FreeRadical]

Not really. Even TDK's international numbers weren't impressive. This won't do much better.

It will do better. Inception made over $825million worldwide, with the international intake close to $533million, higher than TDK.

I don't know why you seem to want to dampen down any hype we have for TDKR.

 

[Tony Stark]

Not being in China hurt TDK's internationals. I imagine that had to do with the Hong Kong scene and having the Chinese mob involved. Damn commies!

Anyway I don't see that happening for TDKR, but I think domesticaly TDKR makes less than TDK, but internationally does better. It probably comes out a wash in the end.

 

[Travesty]

Anyway I don't see that happening for TDKR, but I think domesticaly TDKR makes less than TDK, but internationally does better. It probably comes out a wash in the end.

That's my prediction, too. In the end, I think it'll be around TDK-numbers, but I don't think it'll beat it...unless they keep the movie out till March like they did with TDK, and I just don't see that happening this time around.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Well, this seems to be the state of things until after this film comes out. Constant useless TDKR/Avengers d*ck measuring.

 

[Tony Stark]

Well, this seems to be the state of things until after this film comes out. Constant useless TDKR/Avengers d*ck measuring.

Hey it is called Dark Knight "Rises" t:

 

[Saitou Hajime]

Not being in China hurt TDK's internationals. I imagine that had to do with the Hong Kong scene and having the Chinese mob involved. Damn commies!

I think it has something to do with the implication that the Chinese government would willingly harbor and abet a criminal.

 

[The Batman]

No one is trolling. We're discussing box office. We're discussing two movies that came out in the same year, so naturally the talk is biggest of 2012.

I'm not referring to you. I prefer not having conversations with you, so calling you a troll is counter productive.

The only reason I'm addressing you now is because people seem to think I'm talking about you....while completely missing Gamma Burst's posts. And interestingly enough, Gamma Burst is on probation now, which means I probably wasn't off the mark.

 

[db85usa]

I'm going to go on a limb and says Rises shocks the box office with a record 50 million midnight showing for a smashing $100+ million opening day making it the first movie to do so en route to a $230-$240 million opening weekend! Who needs 3D?!

This is in my opinion, the LAST f**kng Batman movie!!! Lets make it happen!

 

[Mysteryman]

I'm going to go on a limb and says Rises shocks the box office with a record 50 million midnight showing for a smashing $100+ million opening day making it the first movie to do so en route to a $230-$240 million opening weekend! Who needs 3D?!

This is in my opinion, the LAST f**kng Batman movie!!! Lets make it happen!

It's hardly going to be the last one .
They will just take a little break thats all.

 

[Tony Stark]

I'm not referring to you. I prefer not having conversations with you, so calling you a troll is counter productive.

The only reason I'm addressing you now is because people seem to think I'm talking about you....while completely missing Gamma Burst's posts. And interestingly enough, Gamma Burst is on probation now, which means I probably wasn't off the mark.

um........thanks???

 

[Oruku Saki]

Without 3d I expect TDK to do around 1.3b total. Nolan basically has become the new Cameron as far billion dollar movies after TDKR.

 

[Crimson King]

People keep talking about 3D unfairly boosting numbers, but they're ignoring the fact that IMAX tickets are more expensive. TDKR will get a good boost from it. I'm sure it'll be right up there with the top films of 2012, if not the top.

 

[Liam_H]

Yes IMAX is more expensive, but how much more screens are capable of playing 3D vs IMAX? There's a huge difference. IMAX will be in high demand for this movie but a lot of people will settle for the 2D instead if IMAX is sold out.

 

[Crimson King]

It's true that 3D can have more screens, but we're not talking about Avatar-levels of 3D hysteria for Avengers to where people went out of their way to buy tickets in that format. 3D definitely affected the gross. Maybe not as much as people want to believe, though. Avengers deserves the money it's making. It's a great movie. TDKR will likely be a great movie, too, and I'm sure the news stories about how much it was made for IMAX will do a lot for IMAX sales once it's released.

 

[Bruce Malone]

I think some of you guys are still underestimating this film's box office potential.

Box Office Mojo is predicting 500 million domestic and 800 million international, i know that sounds high but i would not be totally surprised if it actually finishes near those estimates.

 

[Liam_H]

Well they have also predicted the Avengers at $420/580 million. And it clearly going to finish higher than that, not saying TDKR is also going to blow past their estimates but they aren't always right.

I don't think TDKR will do as high but I was completely wrong about the two big movies this year, TA and THG. If it does than I'll be happy.