Pearl Jam never really had an "early" period as the band had already signed a record deal before Eddie Vedder even joined the band...but I do feel like Ten (far and away their best album...and one of the best of all time) was a more heartfelt and emotional album, if thats what you mean.
Yeah, I was thinking of "Ten" when I wrote that.
I really like Soundgardens early work, like Screaming Life, Fopp, Louder Than Love...the real whacked out stuff that was all over the place. For me, they really lost what made them unique when they started writing "radio hits".
I'd add "UltramegaOK" and "Badmotorfinger" to that list. "Superunknown" is when they really started to write what you and I would probably both call "radio hits". But, yeah, "Louder Than Love" is one of my favorite workout albums.
Alice In Chains came a little later, if I recall...as I was already well into the Seattle scene before one of the locals (I believe it was Stone Gossard) turned me onto Alice In Chains debut album We Die Young. I wasnt as into them, but looking back, they were far more talented than most of their Grunge brethren (like Jag said...Im looking at YOU Kurt Cobain).
I always wonder what the face of rock music would look like today if Cobain and Staley were still around. They were both about pushing the envelope and exploring new territories and sounds.
I define what is currently popular as Jock Rock...fake angry music for guys who have nothing to really be angry about. The worst is Rev Theory. Those guys were on a tour with some friends of mine, and I remember them doing a cover of "Hunger Strike" and I almost threw up on the stage. How dare you...
Okay, the thought of Rev Theory trying to play that song amuses me for some reason.
And to weigh in on Cantrell vs Tremonti...I like the sound Cantrell gets out of his guitar better, but I havent heard any songs by him that didnt involve layne Staley that I thought were very memorable. Tremonti's strength is in crafting a good song, which is vital.
Possibly true. My only real exposure to Tremonti is Creed and some Alterbridge stuff, and he simply has not impressed me at all on anything of his that I've heard.
Alice In Chains were a tremendeous band but Jerry Cantrell is one of the most limited guitarists there are,technically speaking.
The usual A5 to D5 power chords with some blues pentatonic solos in between.What made them great was Layne's amazing ability to put his emotions through the song.
No argument that Layne's voice was what made that band's sound (Cantrell's accompanying harmonies not withstanding). Being a singer, that's what I listened to more than anything when I first heard those AIC songs back in the day.
For example Nutshell...without his singing it's a simple C-G-E acoustic song.
Mark Tremonti on the other hand uses a lot of different tunings which is very,very rare in Rock and i'm not speaking of the usual drop-D.He's been jamming pretty often latelly with the likes of Steve Vai and one of the reasons he left Creed was that he felt he coudnt show what he is capable of with the type of music the band makes.
Well, Vai's good company, particularly from a technical perspective (I have seen Vai live a few times and he's much more capable of squeezing emotion out of an axe than people give him credit for). My exposure to Tremonti is his Creed stuff (horribly derivative) and his Alterbridge stuff (the stuff that made me think he wasn't so bad). I've not heard any of his solo stuff. But, yeah, I could see where he felt limited in Creed.
To respond to your previous post,just because Creed were not terribly inovative doesn't make them any less great,they weren't ''corporate'' music at all,like i've said in my previous post they were just friends who started to make music,started playing in their home town,became very popular there and one day they a guy from a small label called Wind-Up saw them and sing them up...
I said they were at the forefront of that watered down Grunge wanna-be sound that eventually came to epitomize "corporate rock". Maybe they didn't start out being "corporate rock" but they sure did become the poster boys for it simply by playing the music that they did. I still find the music Creed made to be a watered down ghost of many grunge bands that preceded them. *shrug*
...and they didnt became famous over night..the record company went to the local radio stations and gave the single My Own Prison an airplay...and the first night 50 people called to ask who that was and they became bigger and bigger that way through gigs and radio play.
They were a true rock band,whether you like them or not it's a different matter but the fact is they became too big for their own good and after that it all went downhill.
I never said they weren't a true rock band. I just said they weren't an innovative rock band. I said they came to epitomize "corporate rock". I said that their music was awatered-down, homogenized version of many grunge bands before them. I never said they weren't a true rock band. And I don't care if they became popular or not. I live in a country where Britney Spears tops the charts, so that means jack-all to me.
You might not like Creed but you obviously have never heard/seen Mark Tremonti play...
Only heard his Creed and Alterbridge stuff.
I play everything from Vai to Nuno Bettencourt to Marty Friedman..i was in the whole shred metal movement for years and from that stand point Tremonti is a mile better technical guitarist than Cantrell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1elpMjZ4wE&feature=related
Jesus H. Christ! Could he use any more delay in the first part of that clip? That sounded like ****!

I'll be honest....them's some sloppy sweeps, man. [/quote]
Okay, a little better technique involved on this solo, but I have to say that I absolutely hate the tone he uses. It makes him sound like a much, much sloppier player than he actually is. His technique isn't bad, but as far as composition goes, even in an improvisational setting, I'm not overly impressed. There's no real structure or substance going on in what he's playing, to be honest.
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