The CREED Thread

[Raiden]

Exactly...the thing is,most people who make the comparison are usually not fans of either band...it just stuck with them and it has never left.

If anything Creed are more alike with Alice In Chains than Pearl Jam.
Wrong Way,Never Say Die,Young Grow Old,Illusion,Unforgiven...nothing like the type of Grunge PJ does/did.

I'm not a big fan of Creed, but I'm definitely a fan of Pearl Jam. I brought their debut album "Ten" back when I was in college, and while their songs over the years don't always resonate with me I still like and support this band.

 

[Kargo Warrior]

I'm not a big fan of Creed, but I'm definitely a fan of Pearl Jam. I brought their debut album "Ten" back when I was in college, and while their songs over the years don't always resonate with me I still like and support this band.

I love Pearl Jam..no doubt my favorite band along with Stone Roses.

But Creed and Pearl Jam have very little in common musically,Creed's sound is more taken out of Led Zep's with some Eastern influences whereas Pearl Jam is more with some classic rock in the vain of Neil Young with a bluesy feel.

I like Creed a lot and my affinity towards PJ doesnt lower that in the slightest.

 

[Kargo Warrior]

BTW Jaguarr i'm really interested in your music influences beside Grunge.

If you care to share,of course.

 

[The Chairman]

Do we really need this? Of all the far better bands out there that could and should reunite, we need a ****ing Creed reunion?

 

[jaguarr]

BTW Jaguarr i'm really interested in your music influences beside Grunge.

If you care to share,of course.

Grunge is by far not my biggest influence. I'm more rooted in the blues. Grew up on Robert Johnson, Big Bill Broonzy, Albert Collins, B.B. King. Also grew up playing trumpet and playing a lot of Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Paganini and much more, in addition to all the big-band swing stuff (Count Basie, Duke Ellington, Glenn Miller, etc.) and dixieland, symphonic music, marching band stuff, crappy pep band charts, etc. Later I got into Stevie Ray, Roy Rogers, Jeff Healey, Robert Cray, Taj Mahal, etc. Also a lot of blues influenced hard rock: Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, AC/DC, Ozzy (mostly when Rhodes was still alive), tons of 80's hair bands too countless to mention as well as all the neo-classical shredders back in the day like Friedman, Yngwie, Vinnie Moore, etc. Also listened to some punk (Butthole Surfers, early RHCP, Black Flag, Bad Brains). Of course I love the classics like Zep, Queen, Yes, King Crimson, early Dire Straits, The Who, Beatles, Stones. Most of the stuff I listen to these days is either in the blues vein (Joe Bonamassa!) or the blues-rock vein (Black Crowes, Jaded Sun), though I've recently been on a rock-chick bent, listening to bands like Betty Blowtorch and Crucified Barbara. We also listen to alot of flamenco players in my house as my wife is Spanish and loves that kind of music (Jesse Cook, Paco de Lucia, Ottmar, etc.) About the only things I'm not a fan of, really, are country and rap. So, pretty wide swath of stuff, really. My musical tastes go straight past "eclectic" to "schizophrenic".

jag

 

[DBella]

We need a Music forum/Sub-Forum, gosh darn it.

That would be nice! I'm really surprised that there isn't one.

It just might happen.

 

[Heretic]

Albert Collins is what its all about. I wish he was still alive so he could write more songs about ice...he should have done the Batman And Robin soundtrack.

Jag...send me a link to some of your tunes. Id like to hear what youve got.

 

[Lighthouse]

"Scott Stapp is ALIVE?"

 

[DBella]

I always thought that Creed was trying to sound like Pearl Jam.

Other than the similarity in Stapp's and Veder's voices, I don't think that Creed and Pearl Jam sound the same, or alike, musically.

I admit that I do enjoy Creed's music (but I love PJ more... TEN is one of my favorite albums) but after they disbanded, it doesn't matter to me if they reunite or not. If they reunite and are able to re-create the 'magic' of what once was, I'd welcome it.

 

[Kargo Warrior]

Grunge is by far not my biggest influence. I'm more rooted in the blues. Grew up on Robert Johnson, Big Bill Broonzy, Albert Collins, B.B. King. Also grew up playing trumpet and playing a lot of Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Paganini and much more, in addition to all the big-band swing stuff (Count Basie, Duke Ellington, Glenn Miller, etc.) and dixieland, symphonic music, marching band stuff, crappy pep band charts, etc. Later I got into Stevie Ray, Roy Rogers, Jeff Healey, Robert Cray, Taj Mahal, etc. Also a lot of blues influenced hard rock: Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, AC/DC, Ozzy (mostly when Rhodes was still alive), tons of 80's hair bands too countless to mention as well as all the neo-classical shredders back in the day like Friedman, Yngwie, Vinnie Moore, etc. Also listened to some punk (Butthole Surfers, early RHCP, Black Flag, Bad Brains). Of course I love the classics like Zep, Queen, Yes, King Crimson, early Dire Straits, The Who, Beatles, Stones. Most of the stuff I listen to these days is either in the blues vein (Joe Bonamassa!) or the blues-rock vein (Black Crowes, Jaded Sun), though I've recently been on a rock-chick bent, listening to bands like Betty Blowtorch and Crucified Barbara. We also listen to alot of flamenco players in my house as my wife is Spanish and loves that kind of music (Jesse Cook, Paco de Lucia, Ottmar, etc.) About the only things I'm not a fan of, really, are country and rap. So, pretty wide swath of stuff, really. My musical tastes go straight past "eclectic" to "schizophrenic".

jag

A lot of great musicians there,Robert Johnson,SRV,Robert Cray,Mahal,Randy Rhoads,Black Flag...no wonder you find Creed ordinary t:.

Anyway,from classical music i grew up with (i'm a musician too) more Baroque:Bach,Vivaldi,Handel...plus Rachmaninov,Beethoven,Satie.

Jazz/Fusion:Metheny,Pastorius,Miles,Coltrane,Ellington,Di Meola,Mahavishnu,Frank Gambale,Shawn Lane

Rock/Pop/Metal:Stone Roses,PJ,Alice In Chains,Dream Theater,Opeth,Early Metallica,Pantera,Jeff Buckley,Faith No More,The Smiths,Blur,Nick Drake,Pavement

Btw since you like flamenco have you listened to this duo?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNc5o9TU0t0

Beautiful stuff

 

[Lighthouse]

I am completely unable to listen to Pearl Jam or Nirvana anymore. Used to love them, but radio has absolutely killed them for me. Anytime I hear a PJ or Nirvana song, I change the station.

 

[AlteredEgo]

can this be moved to the celebrities forum or something. or to the wanted comics forum. i dont care, just somewhere i don't have to see this thread. it makes me sad.

 

[Heretic]

I am completely unable to listen to Pearl Jam or Nirvana anymore. Used to love them, but radio has absolutely killed them for me. Anytime I hear a PJ or Nirvana song, I change the station.

The best way to avoid getting sick of hearing a song on the radio is by not listening to the radio. When you have to fend for yourself musically, without the local radio station telling you what is good, you end up dscovering lots of bands youd never have heard of otherwise, and enjoying your favorites that end up being hits.

 

[jaguarr]

Albert Collins is what its all about. I wish he was still alive so he could write more songs about ice...he should have done the Batman And Robin soundtrack.

He sure did go out of his way to make people know he was THE "Iceman"!

Jag...send me a link to some of your tunes. Id like to hear what youve got.

Sure thing. I have some stuff from the blues-rock band I sang in (pretty much covers) and some electronica stuff I dabble in these days I'll send you a link to.

"Scott Stapp is ALIVE?"

A lot of great musicians there,Robert Johnson,SRV,Robert Cray,Mahal,Randy Rhoads,Black Flag...no wonder you find Creed ordinary t:.

Anyway,from classical music i grew up with (i'm a musician too) more Baroque:Bach,Vivaldi,Handel...plus Rachmaninov,Beethoven,Satie.

Jazz/Fusion:Metheny,Pastorius,Miles,Coltrane,Ellington,Di Meola,Mahavishnu,Frank Gambale,Shawn Lane

Rock/Pop/Metal:Stone Roses,PJ,Alice In Chains,Dream Theater,Opeth,Early Metallica,Pantera,Jeff Buckley,Faith No More,The Smiths,Blur,Nick Drake,Pavement

Other than not being much of a Smiths fan, everything else you've mentioned is well within my listening and/or playing history as well. I like so much stuff and so many great players and artists that it's impossible to name all of them. Truly. But, yeah, now you start to see why maybe I'm not impressed with Creed. And...neither one of us mentioned Hendrix. That's practically a crime!

Btw since you like flamenco have you listened to this duo?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNc5o9TU0t0

Beautiful stuff

Ahhh, Rodrigo y Gabriela. Yes, I've heard a lot of their stuff. This is about the only version of "Stairway To Heaven" I can even stomach anymore (that's one song that's been played so much it hurts to listen to it).

jag

 

[jaguarr]

The best way to avoid getting sick of hearing a song on the radio is by not listening to the radio. When you have to fend for yourself musically, without the local radio station telling you what is good, you end up dscovering lots of bands youd never have heard of otherwise, and enjoying your favorites that end up being hits.

I haven't listened to the radio in years. Pandora is awesome for finding new music, as is finding music related discussion sites (some of which you can...er....get the music directly through. ).

jag

 

[Mee]

Scott Stapp is a *****e.

But my radio is lonely for his voice.


Wuth harms wod OH-PUN!

 

[Marx]

It just might happen.

Other than the similarity in Stapp's and Veder's voices, I don't think that Creed and Pearl Jam sound the same, or alike, musically.

I admit that I do enjoy Creed's music (but I love PJ more... TEN is one of my favorite albums) but after they disbanded, it doesn't matter to me if they reunite or not. If they reunite and are able to re-create the 'magic' of what once was, I'd welcome it.

I agree Bella. It seems to me that's the 'default argument' - they ripped off Pearl Jam! Actually, no, they didn't. If people actually listened to both bands styles they would know that. If you really want to get into bands that sound the same look at the endless amount of bands that have copied The Used.

 

[Marx]

"Scott Stapp is ALIVE?"

Yes...and he is reported to be in the best condition (physically and mentally) of his life!

 

[Green Lantern]

Please....Creed isn't even fit to be mentioned as the same sentence as AIC. Scott Stapp can't hold a candle to Layne Staley in any way shape or form and Jerry Cantrell is seven kinds of more incredible than Tremonti.

jag

Agreed Jag. Having seen both Tremonti (with Alter Bridge) and Cantrell (with the new AiC) live, I have to say that Cantrell is probably the third best guitarist I've had the privilege to enjoy watching caress a guitar. The only two in front of him out of the bands I've seen live are Eric and Eddie. Not saying that Tremonti wasn't great and emotional, but Jerry was on fire. Didn't hurt that I saw him front row and right in front of him.

And while we're talking musical influences, here are the ones who have influenced my own style:
Allen Collins, Eric Clapton, Eddie Van Halen, Hughie Thomasson, Jerry Cantrell, Keith Richards, Joe Perry, Duane Allman, Robert Johnson, George Harrison, Ricky Medlocke, Gary Rossington, Steve Gaines, Ed King...

 

[jaguarr]

Mmmmmm....Duane Allman and his golden, golden locks!

jag

 

[Hush]

So just out of curiosity is it bad to like Nickelback jag? I mean I like them alot but people see them as tools. For me when it comes to alternative music i see them as consistent and reliable for good guitar solos (albeit short) and plain old rock out music. Anyone can answer I just ask Jag cause he is the man.

 

[Heretic]

Here's the correct answer...

Nickleback is popular because over and over again they have written songs that millions of people want to hear. Their place in music is not to be the most talented band, or the most inventive. Writing a hit song is HARD, and they've written a dozen or more.

You should like whatever you like. There is no shame in liking a band that isnt overly talented. I like AC/DC because it's just killer rock n roll...but lets face it...they've written the same album ten times. If Nickleback connects with you, freaking crank it up and enjoy it. You have horrible taste...but who cares?

 

[Hush]

Yeah i was just looking for opinions cause people say they are tools but i find them awesome.

 

[jaguarr]

Here's the correct answer...

Nickleback is popular because over and over again they have written songs that millions of people want to hear. Their place in music is not to be the most talented band, or the most inventive. Writing a hit song is HARD, and they've written a dozen or more.

You should like whatever you like. There is no shame in liking a band that isnt overly talented. I like AC/DC because it's just killer rock n roll...but lets face it...they've written the same album ten times. If Nickleback connects with you, freaking crank it up and enjoy it. You have horrible taste...but who cares?

Excellent answer. I concur.

But, yeah...Nickelback are tools.

jag

 

[Shoemeister]

This just proves there is NO God.




Of course, I'm sure Stapp would beg to differ.