The Critics' Reviews of Spider-Man 3 Thread

[MST3KPIMP]

Lack of logic, okay, in the realm of comic book films, sheesh? The thing is, most people who see these types of movies, are smart enough to know they're watching a movie of fiction, all except comic book fanboys. Who hasn't accepted that Spidey's comics are fill with camp, starting with Spidey himself.

Except when you use the second movie to set up a character like Jonah's astronaut son ony to have the alien appear as a random meteorite that just happens to fall next to Peter Parker then you have skated past the realm of artistic license and into plain laziness. The Spider-man comics I read as a youth were not this shallow and flashy.. they had more gravity. Even the animated series took the trouble to explain things better.

 

[godovfury]

it kinda pisses me off the way raimi treated venom. he should have developed eddie's character as he have developed doc ock back in SM2. but then again this is what we get with a lot of sub-plots going on and lots of characters squeezed in. raimi should have venom return in SM4 along with the lizard. and he should quit putting in some unneeded scenes. tch... i am pissed.

 

[Dangerous]

The critics are right, so the film must suck. I love your logic. Get over the fact that some people enjoyed the movie.

No- the film sucks, and some of the critics happen to have called it as such.
Get over the fact that some people don't like it.

 

[majemma]

it did not suck .....except for venom small screentime and harry dying

 

[Artistsean]

I agree with you completely. Spider-Man 3 didn't have any problems that Spider-Man 1 and 2 didn't have. Remember that scene from Spider-Man 2 where he first looses his powers and his happy walking down the street to music. Then the camera stops on a close up of him grinning? (Seems similar to the Dancing "Emo" Peter scene, just a little longer.) I liked all three movies. I got worried when I heard that people were even comparing it to Batman and Robin (the one with the nipples on the suit). I didn't know what to expect, but it was the same as the first 2. But it was just as good as the others.
as a side note, Spider-Man 2 seems like it was meant to be more like a comic. What with the drammatic acting (like Ock and the voices or hm checking the chip in his neck (to show the camera like a comic would)) and the Spider-Symbol wipes and such. I could see these things in a comic, so they didn't really bug me.
As for the Venom movie, I don't know if I could have taken a movie of the Venom they created. But maybe if they had more time to develop him it would have been a great character for a whole movie. Have you ever scene the Spider-Man cartoon from the 90s that featured Venom?
Venom attacks from out of nowhere. He tells Peter he knows all his secrets, and proves he is stronger. Then he shows up at Aunt May's and poops in on Peter and MJ while they walk down a busy street.
He shows Peter that he and his family will never be safe. Peter even starts looking over his shoulder thinking Eddie or Venom are there.
That would have been a great storyline for a Spider-Man 4. Having Eddie Brock and Venom (who I wished would have said "we and us" instead "I and me" a few times) terrorizing Peter and MJ. Or it would have at least filled a 2 hour movie.
But if the studios forced Venom into the movie, and there really wasn't anything Sam could do, then so be it. he should be applauded. He managed to make a really great movie (up to par with 1 and 2) with the too much story and characters they made him use. He did a great job, look at Daredevil. It had Elektra, Bullseye, Kingpin, and Daredevil's origin, and it stunk. So at least he got what he did with what he was forced to do it with.

I think that Spider-Man 1-3 are the best super hero films yet. And I seriously hope that they don't stop with these three. I want to see Peter and MJ living together, Aunt May finding out, and maybe a wedding of Peter and MJ.

Just wondering about this, does it bother anyone that in all three movies Peter, Uncle Ben, nor Aunt May, mention Peter's real parents? It is something I never really noticed (only once when Peter said in the 1st one "I had a father, his name was Ben Parker." I thought, what about his real dad?) but I never thought about it before that and then I never really thought about it after.

 

[Tony Stark]

Superman Returns for all it's flaws is an actual movie and a well made one at that with characters that have some resonance. Spider-man 3 is a product designed to cater to children or very apolegetic adults. The most significant character was Harry whereas everyone else was just there to kill time with no real fleshing out but usually ackwarrd humor or empty emotions. Superman Returns is a solid movie that will most likely have a superior sequel which would put Superman in a pretty healthy place in the hearts and minds of fans. Right now Spider-man is like junk food in our culture.. more of a quick temporary thrill with little nutritional value... but even even junk food has some requirments for it to be embraced and right now the public is not too impressed with this product.

Yet another jaded Superman fan. "characters have some resonance", yeah a madmad who makes a kryptonite island. That resonates! Superman having a bastard child, that goes over real well with family demographic.

Yeah no one was killing time in Superman Returns, that's why the first thing Clark did when he got to Metropolis was GO TO A FREAKING BAR!!!! No killing time there.

Yeah I'm so glad one can appreciate the esoteric value of Kryptonite real estate. Man Bryan Singer is a fricken genious for coming up with that one.

 

[Visionary]

Except when you use the second movie to set up a character like Jonah's astronaut son ony to have the alien appear as a random meteorite that just happens to fall next to Peter Parker then you have skated past the realm of artistic license and into plain laziness. The Spider-man comics I read as a youth were not this shallow and flashy.. they had more gravity. Even the animated series took the trouble to explain things better.

What the hell does the cartoon have to do with anything, no one said that they were going to follow the toon? And the cartoon sure as hell didn't explain where Shocker and Rhino came from, no origin or alter-ego or anything, that's laziness. And from the comics, having Doc Ock lifting heavy objects weighing tons, using all four of his tentacles--yet he has no super-strength to support the weight on his legs, you mean like that type of laziness? I'd like to see a comic book purist try to explain that to me (good luck), I guess Stan Lee is plain lazy too, huh?

Coincidences have always been apart of the comic world. Bruce Wayne just happened to be rich so he has access to his expensive Bat-Gear and vehicles, no one but Ma and Pa Kent seeing a damn spaceship crashing to Earth, Eddie Brock just happen to be in the same church as Spider-Man when he removes the symbiote. These types of things happens all the time in the comics, no one says a word about it. Maybe they should have went with the whole Cancer suit angle from Ultimate comics, so we could have had purists damning them for not making the symbiote alien. But at least we wouldn't have had the coincidental meteorite motif.

 

[OcStat]

if sandman and peter fought again at the end of the film...wed have more people saying its too damn long or two crowded.

"omg theyre fighting now and harrys dying a few stories below, what the hell raimi!!"

 

[KappeiJin]

I agree with you completely. Spider-Man 3 didn't have any problems that Spider-Man 1 and 2 didn't have.

Except for the hellzapoppin screenplay based entirely on coincidences and non-sense.

Really, people thinking screenplays of 2 and 3 are similar has a pretty low standard for a substance in a story.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Yet another jaded Superman fan. "characters have some resonance", yeah a madmad who makes a kryptonite island. That resonates! Superman having a bastard child, that goes over real well with family demographic.

Yeah no one was killing time in Superman Returns, that's why the first thing Clark did when he got to Metropolis was GO TO A FREAKING BAR!!!! No killing time there.

Yeah I'm so glad one can appreciate the esoteric value of Kryptonite real estate. Man Bryan Singer is a fricken genious for coming up with that one.

I found both SR and SM3 disappointing. But I would say SR is a shade better than SM3, IMO.

 

[Rac]

But thats why it made a lot of money. Look at the huge dip it had after the opening week. All because a movie makes tons of money doesn't mean its a good movie (Water World for example).

Yeah yeah! I've been saying the same thing about X3 for ages. I haven't said X3 nor SM3 is a good movie. X3 sucks, SM3 fails to deliver. And the bolded was my posts whole point from the beginning...

 

[spider-neil]

I found both SR and SM3 disappointing. But I would say SR is a shade better than SM3, IMO.

SR = boring

I'd rather watch a rubbish movie that makes me curse it all the way through than a dull movie that sends me to sleep.

 

[Myrddin_Emrys]

X3 enjoyable
SR fantastic
SM3 Mind Blowing

Am I watching the same films as you guys?

 

[Tony Stark]

X3 enjoyable
SR fantastic
SM3 Mind Blowing

Am I watching the same films as you guys?

I don't know

SM3 a good completion to the best Superhero trillogy ever
SR a 21/2 hour bore fest, that turns a childhood idol, into an illegitimate dad, who stalks his ex-lover.
X3 a huge slap in the face to the entire X-men fan base who made the first two movies a hit.

 

[spider-neil]

I don't know

SM3 a good completion to the best Superhero trillogy ever
SR a 21/2 hour bore fest, that turns a childhood idol, into an illegitimate dad, who stalks his ex-lover.
X3 a huge slap in the face to the entire X-men fan base who made the first two movies a hit.

you must have been watching in the same cinema I watched these moves

not too bothered about x3 but I'd waited for the superman movie for YEARS

 

[Storm22]

X3 a huge slap in the face to the entire X-men fan base who made the first two movies a hit.

So you're now the spokesperson for the entire X-Men fanbase?! Quit generalising will ya!

 

[Jerry!]

it kinda pisses me off the way raimi treated venom. he should have developed eddie's character as he have developed doc ock back in SM2. but then again this is what we get with a lot of sub-plots going on and lots of characters squeezed in. raimi should have venom return in SM4 along with the lizard. and he should quit putting in some unneeded scenes. tch... i am pissed.

Yeah see thats what I am confused about. I went in watching this film thinking that ok, this is the last one, its a trilogy. But the way they ended it....it just seems like there are some parts that make it look like that this is last Spiderman movie, at least for this cast/director and storyline, etc. But then other parts make it seem like they have to make another one, ie Air Sandman still blowing around, after Peter inexplicably let him go after fighting for his life and MJ's.

Like if there is a SM4 with the entire cast and crew returning, and you want Venom back, that involves a subplot of some regeneration or something. And then you still got Sandman flying around, and then theres the Lizard question because fans will be pissed off " we aren't getting any new villains in the movie" bull****. And then you gotta pray Harry stays dead. Because you are already talking about 3 villains again. It would be just like SM3. The way SM3 ended, in some ways, ruined the potential sequel. Because now they have to go through a whole lot more crap to bring Venom back, etc.

Its almost like X3 killing off Xavier and Cyclops, just not to that extreme degree.

 

[StylishHokie21]

No- the film sucks, and some of the critics happen to have called it as such.
Get over the fact that some people don't like it.

I've gotten over the fact some critics don't like it. You don't seem to understand the difference between fact and opinion. It's not a fact that it sucks. Just move on already man.

 

[NateGray]

Except when you use the second movie to set up a character like Jonah's astronaut son ony to have the alien appear as a random meteorite that just happens to fall next to Peter Parker then you have skated past the realm of artistic license and into plain laziness. The Spider-man comics I read as a youth were not this shallow and flashy.. they had more gravity. Even the animated series took the trouble to explain things better.

LMAO re read them pal shallow and flashy is all they were remember sandman caught in a vacuum cleaner???? and I can go on and on and on.....with the cheese of the Spiderman comics of the 60's 70's and even 80's.

And yeh sorry but BEEEP WRONG way way more people like Spiderman 3 than people who dislike it heck if half the Spiderman fans went to see SR it might not have flopped so badly.

Also just FYI Rami did not want Venom in this movie it was forced on him by Avi so its not really lazy its more a script re-write and they had to make it flow well with the contexy of the movie which they did quite well.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Also just FYI Rami did not want Venom in this movie it was forced on him by Avi so its not really lazy its more a script re-write and they had to make it flow well with the contexy of the movie which they did quite well.

Raimi allowed his vision to be compromised by giving into Arad and Ziskin. He should have stood his ground. He's earned that right with what he did with SM1 and SM2. Unfortunately we will never actually see what Raimi originally had in mind. Instead, we will have to settle for what I feel is a mess of a movie.

 

[StylishHokie21]

I don't know

SM3 a good completion to the best Superhero trillogy ever
SR a 21/2 hour bore fest, that turns a childhood idol, into an illegitimate dad, who stalks his ex-lover.
X3 a huge slap in the face to the entire X-men fan base who made the first two movies a hit.

Well said once again!

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

I don't know

SM3 a good completion to the best Superhero trillogy ever
SR a 21/2 hour bore fest, that turns a childhood idol, into an illegitimate dad, who stalks his ex-lover.
X3 a huge slap in the face to the entire X-men fan base who made the first two movies a hit.

Wait a minute so Spider-Man staring at MJ through her window and then leaving isn't stalking her or is it okay for Spidey to ***** slap the woman he loves?

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

Superman may have listen in on what Lois had to say about him but he never pimp smacked her like Spidey did.

 

[Tony Stark]

Wait a minute so Spider-Man staring at MJ through her window and then leaving isn't stalking her or is it okay for Spidey to ***** slap the woman he loves?

Catching a glimpse of a girl through your bedroom window is not stalking. Flying over your ex-girlfriend's house and using your x-ray vision and super hearing to spy on her is stalking.

....and yeah it was wrong of Spidey to hit MJ. That was the whole friggen point dude. It's the point where Spidey knows that he's lost all control to the suit. Hence:

"who are you?"
"I don't know"

BTW didn't Supes hit Lana's kid when he took the niccotine laced Kryptonite?

 

[Showtime]

Why does Superman have to be compared to Spiderman in this critics thread as well as on the Superman forums? The critics are not being kind to Spiderman and they were much more kind to Superman, but what matters is the BO. Spiderman has already passed Superman's total WW gross at this point right?